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General Problems/Issues in Avernum 4
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 written Sunday, January 8 2006 11:46 Profile #9
..And some people might find that offensive? Afterall, I don't think Horus has actually said that he thinks Avernum 4 sucks.

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"..The seventh wave of Thrall stumbled and climbed over the slippery, piled dead and Mazzarin saw The Watcher with them and at last knew the number of his days."
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FIne Slith Spear, not so fine? in Avernum 4
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 written Sunday, January 8 2006 11:10 Profile #8
How far along are you in the game? I think the Blessed Spear will do more damage than the Bronze Halberd, but if you have gotten down to the Tower Colony yet, just do the quest about the Ogres acting up, kill the Chief and take his Spear of the Fen. Will be useful up to getting the final weapon - Jade Halberd.

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"..The seventh wave of Thrall stumbled and climbed over the slippery, piled dead and Mazzarin saw The Watcher with them and at last knew the number of his days."
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General Problems/Issues in Avernum 4
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 written Sunday, January 8 2006 10:55 Profile #7
quote:
Originally written by Akai Hoshi:

quote:
Originally written by Horus:

1. The game sucks
FYT
Where did you quote this from? Not this thread, obviously.

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"..The seventh wave of Thrall stumbled and climbed over the slippery, piled dead and Mazzarin saw The Watcher with them and at last knew the number of his days."
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FIne Slith Spear, not so fine? in Avernum 4
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 written Sunday, January 8 2006 10:50 Profile #6
quote:
Originally written by Istara:

Generally speaking, there is rarely anyone selling stuff that is better than what you could otherwise find at the same stage in the game.

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Buy a Fine/Blessed/Steel anything is never worth it. Nor having Blessed stuff made. So much better to get stat-enhancing gear, and especially acid/poison weapons.
Untrue. West of Silver is a smith making you a blessed breastplate, something you won't find replacement for untill you fetch the Emerald Chestguard for your main warrior, and Crystaline Plate for your second warrior/priest.

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"..The seventh wave of Thrall stumbled and climbed over the slippery, piled dead and Mazzarin saw The Watcher with them and at last knew the number of his days."
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To keep or not to keep. in Avernum 4
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 written Sunday, January 8 2006 10:46 Profile #14
quote:
Originally written by Ephesos:

You get two eyestalk quests in the game, as far as I know:

(SPOILER)

-One from the mage in East Cotra (if you kill the gazer under West Cotra, question it first, then go tell the mayor that it wasn't helpful, then go kill it, and the mayor never gets angry)
-One from the potion-maker in Fort Remote, but only after you do the quests fetching Graymold and Mandrake. All of that person's quests show up on the job board in Fort Remote.
- One from the Gazer in the tunnels west of Fort Remote, waiting for you among the final pylons that you encounter before you climb underground.

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"..The seventh wave of Thrall stumbled and climbed over the slippery, piled dead and Mazzarin saw The Watcher with them and at last knew the number of his days."
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Avernum:4 vs Blades Of Avernum which is the best? in Avernum 4
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 written Sunday, January 8 2006 06:24 Profile #59
Slime and Worms are never as resistant as Doomguards, though.

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"..The seventh wave of Thrall stumbled and climbed over the slippery, piled dead and Mazzarin saw The Watcher with them and at last knew the number of his days."
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Avernum:4 vs Blades Of Avernum which is the best? in Avernum 4
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 written Saturday, January 7 2006 08:14 Profile #55
What ever happened to those Doomguards? Haven't seen them so far in A4.

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"..The seventh wave of Thrall stumbled and climbed over the slippery, piled dead and Mazzarin saw The Watcher with them and at last knew the number of his days."
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Queer Parry results in Avernum 4
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 written Saturday, January 7 2006 07:59 Profile #3
If luck increases dodgeing, it is obviously a worthwhile trait to invest in for combat purposes (even though I never do, because it costs far too much)

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"..The seventh wave of Thrall stumbled and climbed over the slippery, piled dead and Mazzarin saw The Watcher with them and at last knew the number of his days."
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Firebolt in Avernum 4
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 written Saturday, January 7 2006 07:48 Profile #8
After reaching an amazeing level of 5 in Haste, I got somewhat disappointed that it didn't do something more spectacular, like extending the effect from one in the group to all.

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"..The seventh wave of Thrall stumbled and climbed over the slippery, piled dead and Mazzarin saw The Watcher with them and at last knew the number of his days."
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Why does Jeff make all the games for Mac first? in Avernum 4
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 written Saturday, January 7 2006 07:43 Profile #7
The Spiderweb fanbase will and probably always will be dominated by Mac. The first Exile was, as far as I can recall, released for Mac first, and after that it just continued on.

PC users have their Call of Duty 2, Warcraft 3, Halflife and Splintercell. Let us Mac users have our outdated-graphic, shareware, rpg game. It's the least you can give us.

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"..The seventh wave of Thrall stumbled and climbed over the slippery, piled dead and Mazzarin saw The Watcher with them and at last knew the number of his days."
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Unique Item Locations. in Avernum 4
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 written Saturday, January 7 2006 07:35 Profile #46
Warrior's Cloak is probab ly the best fighter-cloak out there.

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"..The seventh wave of Thrall stumbled and climbed over the slippery, piled dead and Mazzarin saw The Watcher with them and at last knew the number of his days."
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Who else hates the job board? in Avernum 4
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 written Friday, January 6 2006 05:55 Profile #10
quote:
Originally written by Segrin Bilal:

Are you talking about Exile? Because in Avernum, I seem to remember it really was just a single level that kept spiralling down.

But that was back when they had height. :(

(Or does A4 have height? It seemed like it wouldn't...)
Avernum 2, it got lower and lower as you walked down. Avernum 4, like Geneforge, don't got height. A shame really.

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"..The seventh wave of Thrall stumbled and climbed over the slippery, piled dead and Mazzarin saw The Watcher with them and at last knew the number of his days."
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Game speed in combat mode in Avernum 4
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 written Friday, January 6 2006 02:51 Profile #4
I miss the possibility of fighting outside of Fight-mode. Just have your warrior lead the party and take out all these minor, annoying enemies with one blow. I am really a timesaver when it comes to things I know I can handle.

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"..The seventh wave of Thrall stumbled and climbed over the slippery, piled dead and Mazzarin saw The Watcher with them and at last knew the number of his days."
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Who else hates the job board? in Avernum 4
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 written Friday, January 6 2006 02:46 Profile #7
quote:
Originally written by Slartucker:

Where are my Kothtars and my Pyrog Labs, my Abandoned River Forts and Tombs of Dahris-Bok, full of surprises and exciting twists? Even the goblin and nephil maps used to be less repetitive, I feel like.
The Mertis Spiral! It used to be an awesome, five-level spiraling maze of horror and undead, with hidden passages anddarkness so that you couldn't see without a light spell.
Now the Mertis Spiral is just two levels of straightforwad undead-killing, which gets very boring after the first level.

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"..The seventh wave of Thrall stumbled and climbed over the slippery, piled dead and Mazzarin saw The Watcher with them and at last knew the number of his days."
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Unique Item Locations. in Avernum 4
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 written Friday, January 6 2006 02:38 Profile #42
How stupid. Back in the goold ol' days of Avernum soldiers and people dropped goods and weapons compared to their wealth and status. If you kill Empire soldiers, they will obviousle have steel weapons! Now if you kill someone you get a bronze broadsword, if anything at all.

Edit: And on the moral dilemma issues; Killing that Gremlin in the Eastern Gallery, the last remnant of an once great clan, wasn't very pleasant either.

[ Friday, January 06, 2006 03:48: Message edited by: Contra ]

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"..The seventh wave of Thrall stumbled and climbed over the slippery, piled dead and Mazzarin saw The Watcher with them and at last knew the number of his days."
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Unique Item Locations. in Avernum 4
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 written Thursday, January 5 2006 16:57 Profile #37
Killing that ex-bandit in the Southeast region of the Great Cave to settle an old score didn't exactly made me feel good about myself.

Edit: An edit on that, and excuse my drunkness, anyone know if Starrus drop anything intresting? He damn-well better.

[ Thursday, January 05, 2006 17:06: Message edited by: Contra ]

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"..The seventh wave of Thrall stumbled and climbed over the slippery, piled dead and Mazzarin saw The Watcher with them and at last knew the number of his days."
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A4 Demo in Avernum 4
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 written Thursday, January 5 2006 07:16 Profile #30
I'm not even sure I want to know what a" dipthong" is.

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"..The seventh wave of Thrall stumbled and climbed over the slippery, piled dead and Mazzarin saw The Watcher with them and at last knew the number of his days."
Posts: 522 | Registered: Wednesday, May 4 2005 07:00
Knowledge Brew Alchemist in Avernum 4
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 written Thursday, January 5 2006 07:14 Profile #2
Hmm, where can I learn a higher Dispell Barrier? Only got one level, learned from Tower Colony quest.

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"..The seventh wave of Thrall stumbled and climbed over the slippery, piled dead and Mazzarin saw The Watcher with them and at last knew the number of his days."
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Knowledge Brew Alchemist in Avernum 4
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 written Thursday, January 5 2006 05:24 Profile #0
I know it has been posted before, but I can't seem to find it; Where can I find the man who will make me knowledge brews?

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"..The seventh wave of Thrall stumbled and climbed over the slippery, piled dead and Mazzarin saw The Watcher with them and at last knew the number of his days."
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German review translation in Avernum 4
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 written Thursday, January 5 2006 04:01 Profile #5
quote:
Originally written by Henrik:

quote:
Originally written by Akai Hoshi:


I mean it- what backwater european city would care about a US shareware release?
You seriously believe that the internet cares where a site is based?
Yes, stop making fun of our backwater, european country or we will send our polar bears at you.

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"..The seventh wave of Thrall stumbled and climbed over the slippery, piled dead and Mazzarin saw The Watcher with them and at last knew the number of his days."
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A4 Demo in Avernum 4
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 written Thursday, January 5 2006 03:54 Profile #27
quote:
Originally written by Slartucker:

Clearly, Alorael is a he. But Aloreal is a he/she/it. Alorael, did you know you have an evil twin?
I thought Alorael was the evil twin, and he/she/it allready killed the good one.

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"..The seventh wave of Thrall stumbled and climbed over the slippery, piled dead and Mazzarin saw The Watcher with them and at last knew the number of his days."
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Unique Item Locations. in Avernum 4
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 written Wednesday, January 4 2006 16:42 Profile #31
Haven't actually finished the game yet, hehe.

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"..The seventh wave of Thrall stumbled and climbed over the slippery, piled dead and Mazzarin saw The Watcher with them and at last knew the number of his days."
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Oh come on! in Avernum 4
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 written Wednesday, January 4 2006 16:38 Profile #1
Uhm, nope. Always 5.

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"..The seventh wave of Thrall stumbled and climbed over the slippery, piled dead and Mazzarin saw The Watcher with them and at last knew the number of his days."
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The Enduring Priest-Tank in Avernum 4
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 written Wednesday, January 4 2006 16:37 Profile #11
So it's like War Blessing, Protection and Prismal (sp?) Shield in one? Does it give any added bonus if you do all the previouse spells first, and then Arcane Shield?

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"..The seventh wave of Thrall stumbled and climbed over the slippery, piled dead and Mazzarin saw The Watcher with them and at last knew the number of his days."
Posts: 522 | Registered: Wednesday, May 4 2005 07:00
Avernum:4 vs Blades Of Avernum which is the best? in Avernum 4
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 written Wednesday, January 4 2006 16:34 Profile #38
quote:
Originally written by Kelandon:

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I just read Fahrenheit 451 a couple of days ago, and the most striking thing about that book is that it wasn't the government that began the censorship — it was that people (by and large, not universally) stopped reading good writing. This seems extremely realistic to me.
As far as I can recall, it was both. The people simply decided to do, read and watch the things that gave their brains instant stimuli (like drugs), instead of things that forced them into deep thoughts about philosophy, moral values, life, etc. This made the people dull in mind and body, addicted to that "quick fix". The government simply went along with it, and banned books, seeing that people were much happier (or more "content") with watching mindless television and performing nervstimulating activites than reading books, and so they banned them.

People that don't read books don't question society, and if you don't question society, the government is free to do as it pleases.

You are right that it seems realistic, I agree fully. This new "reality TV" addiction that has spread across my nation, and many others..It scares me. people would actually watch other people have fun (and gossip about these people, and their plots) than to go out and interact (and do the same things as these people do) themselves.
Why do something when you can experience "the same thing", from the comfortable seat of your favorit armchair?

Man, and I shouldn't even get started on such barbarism as "Fear Factory". Is this what we pay our TV licence for, to watch other people eat dog feces?
Something is very wrong with our society.

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