Why does Jeff make all the games for Mac first?
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Apprentice
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written Friday, January 6 2006 23:35
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After all, more ppl use Windows (like me) :confused: -------------------- Hi. This is my siggy. Posts: 3 | Registered: Friday, January 6 2006 08:00 |
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Shock Trooper
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written Friday, January 6 2006 23:47
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Because Jeff uses a Mac. And whilst more people worldwide use Windows instead of Mac, most of Spiderweb's dedicated fanbase comes from the Macintosh community. -------------------- Microsoft Patents Ones, Zeroes (March 25, 1998) "Asians are good at Starcraft because they're always squinting, thus they can see things sharply. Remember to always squint in war." ~ Sun-Tzu Posts: 215 | Registered: Sunday, April 7 2002 08:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Saturday, January 7 2006 00:01
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Actually, about 50% of Jeff's customers use Mac, according to numbers cited somewhere that may or may not have been reputable. But the real reason is that Jeff likes Macs, uses Macs, and programs on Macs before porting. —Alorael, who will dismiss your assertion that Jeff should make games for Windows first as an argumentum ad populum. Posts: 14579 | Registered: Saturday, December 1 2001 08:00 |
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Warrior
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written Saturday, January 7 2006 00:19
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About the time of Avernums release, it was about 50% Mac, 30% windows, and 20% other, i think. -------------------- "When everything is coming your way, you're in the wrong lane." Posts: 120 | Registered: Sunday, January 1 2006 08:00 |
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Shock Trooper
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written Saturday, January 7 2006 03:02
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Other being/including Both? Surely 1/5 people dont use Linux. :confused: -------------------- A Sucaran Child is standing here. You say, "hello" The small child looks at Preserver Aldous wide-eyed and awed. Posts: 269 | Registered: Friday, July 19 2002 07:00 |
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Electric Sheep One
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written Saturday, January 7 2006 04:04
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Linux is likely over-represented among shareware customers, since running Linux is pretty much choosing shareware as a way of life. -------------------- We're not doing cool. We're doing pretty. Posts: 3335 | Registered: Thursday, September 4 2003 07:00 |
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Shock Trooper
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written Saturday, January 7 2006 05:04
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quote:I dismiss your argument as not mattering much for a game which requires either Mac OS or Windows. ;) -------------------- There are two kinds of game players...those who are newbies, and those who were. Posts: 322 | Registered: Monday, April 12 2004 07:00 |
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Infiltrator
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written Saturday, January 7 2006 07:43
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The Spiderweb fanbase will and probably always will be dominated by Mac. The first Exile was, as far as I can recall, released for Mac first, and after that it just continued on. PC users have their Call of Duty 2, Warcraft 3, Halflife and Splintercell. Let us Mac users have our outdated-graphic, shareware, rpg game. It's the least you can give us. -------------------- "..The seventh wave of Thrall stumbled and climbed over the slippery, piled dead and Mazzarin saw The Watcher with them and at last knew the number of his days." Posts: 522 | Registered: Wednesday, May 4 2005 07:00 |
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Electric Sheep One
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written Saturday, January 7 2006 12:05
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quote:What, you don't realize that the infinite superiority of Linux includes the ability to emulate both Mac OS 10.4 and Windows XP, and at twice native speed? See, this kind of ignorance is the only reason why Linux doesn't yet rule the planet. Or maybe those stats were compiled shortly after that one Spiderweb game was ported to Linux. [ Saturday, January 07, 2006 12:08: Message edited by: Student of Trinity ] -------------------- We're not doing cool. We're doing pretty. Posts: 3335 | Registered: Thursday, September 4 2003 07:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Saturday, January 7 2006 12:11
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Call of Duty 2 is being ported to Mac. Warcraft 3 was released simultaneously for Mac and PC. The first Splinter Cell was ported to Mac, although I don't know when in relation to its port to PC. Only Half-Life was never released for Mac, and it was apparently mostly ported and then dropped for unknown reasons. —Alorael, who would rather have an Avernum game than most of the above. Maybe any, although he shouldn't opine on the ones he's never seen. Posts: 14579 | Registered: Saturday, December 1 2001 08:00 |
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...b10010b...
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written Saturday, January 7 2006 13:05
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quote:Actually, my Linux-using friend tells me that the Windows version of Exile 3 runs better under Windows "emulation" on Linux (I shouldn't call it that, since WINE isn't really an emulator) than the native Linux version does under Linux. Apparently this is because the Linux port of E3 was really shoddily done. -------------------- The Empire Always Loses: This Time For Sure! Posts: 9973 | Registered: Saturday, March 30 2002 08:00 |
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Apprentice
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written Saturday, January 7 2006 15:19
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The majority of Windows users dont really care that the games are released later for windows, they're just impatient and wanna play the game ASAP because of the good and bad things they hear about it. Those people who do complain, probabley have no patience whatsoever or have very little free time to do anything, so they want the games out for windows sooner or first. Posts: 49 | Registered: Friday, February 18 2005 08:00 |
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Councilor
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written Saturday, January 7 2006 17:31
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The only frustration I have about having A4 come out for Macs before Windows is that I can't get the game to download properly. I have a perfectly good Mac and yet I have to wait for the Windows version to come out. Dikiyoba. Edit: Spelling. [ Saturday, January 07, 2006 17:32: Message edited by: Dikiyoba ] Posts: 4346 | Registered: Friday, December 23 2005 08:00 |
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Apprentice
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written Saturday, January 7 2006 18:15
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Lol, try running a system scan or something like that, then trying to download it again. If it still doesn't work, then ask for some help by some people who know how to fix it. Edit:Switching 'I' for 'try' [ Saturday, January 07, 2006 18:17: Message edited by: Glafna ] Posts: 49 | Registered: Friday, February 18 2005 08:00 |
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Lifecrafter
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written Saturday, January 7 2006 18:30
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quote:Forgive me if I'm misinformed, but somehow I doubt that even a very well equipped x86 (I'm assuming that's the Linux build you're speaking of) could emulate a PPC processor and run OS X 10.4 at speeds twice that of a comprably equipped PPC computer. Emulating Windows at that speed is a bit more believable, simply because you wouldn't have to emulate a different processor. -------------------- Polaris Board Posts: 780 | Registered: Friday, February 1 2002 08:00 |
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Shock Trooper
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written Saturday, January 7 2006 18:59
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quote:I'm in total agreement. Although to be fair, the Intel Developer machines apparently are faster at many tasks than the previous-gen G5s (*cry*), so maybe the x86 OS X is faster emulated in Linux. quote:I have heard that at least a few applications are faster in Linux w/ WINE than in Windows, but I rather imagine those are few and far between. Can anybody point me to one besides Folding@home? My, I seem to be switching positions here. Whoops. :rolleyes: -------------------- There are two kinds of game players...those who are newbies, and those who were. Posts: 322 | Registered: Monday, April 12 2004 07:00 |
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Shock Trooper
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written Saturday, January 7 2006 19:26
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That's why I love Blizzard. All their games are hybrid: they can be installed onto either Mac or Windows from the same disk. And saying that Jeff should publish for Windows first because more people used Windows is saying that the majority is always right. This, of course, is false. (see GWB, for example). -------------------- Nobody appreciates me. It's all "Igor! Fetch some wine!" "Igor! Clean up this experiment!" or "Igor! Bury this in the garden, we're leaving town in 10 minutes!" —Alorael, who tried to become a deivore once. The priest gave him a funny look after the third wafer. Posts: 301 | Registered: Thursday, October 2 2003 07:00 |
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Apprentice
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written Tuesday, January 10 2006 11:51
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Besides, Jeff usually gets his windows port done in quite a timely manner. I wouldn't worry, mr. Pc-user. -------------------- An Agent, An Agent Of Doom Posts: 22 | Registered: Tuesday, December 18 2001 08:00 |
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Electric Sheep One
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written Tuesday, January 10 2006 13:01
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My remarks about the infinite power of Linux were supposed to be a joke. As a matter of fact I'm no great Linux fan. I used it for two years, five years ago, and liked it fine then. Tried it briefly again recently, after Mac OS X, and I just kept cringing. To be fair, most of my cringes were about unpolished apps, and not really about the OS itself. But, now that Fink lets me run pretty much any open source program I want, and do it with a commercial-grade OS and interface on pretty hardware, I have very little interest in going back to Linux. -------------------- We're not doing cool. We're doing pretty. Posts: 3335 | Registered: Thursday, September 4 2003 07:00 |
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Apprentice
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written Tuesday, January 10 2006 13:06
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I'm a windows guy, windows and x-box. PLAYSTATION SUCKS!!! Posts: 49 | Registered: Friday, February 18 2005 08:00 |
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Board Administrator
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written Tuesday, January 10 2006 13:20
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My customer base is about 60/40 Windows/Mac. I write games Mac first because I am far more proficient with Macintoshes than Windows, and the development tools I like most work best on Macs. So my games get done much quicker if I write them on Macs. If I wrote my games on Windows, it'd take longer to get them done, so you'd still end up waiting. THIS IS NOT ME SAYING MAC IS BETTER THAN WINDOWS OR VISE VERSA. Don't start that argument. It's just my personal work thing. - Jeff Vogel -------------------- Official Board Admin spidweb@spiderwebsoftware.com Posts: 960 | Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00 |
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Apprentice
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written Tuesday, January 10 2006 13:35
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Sorry if we made the impression we were going to start arguing Jeff, but I don't think anyone here is saying you perfer Mac over Windows. It more us discussing Macintosh, Windows, and Linux Posts: 49 | Registered: Friday, February 18 2005 08:00 |
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...b10010b...
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written Tuesday, January 10 2006 14:17
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quote:Actually, he is saying he prefers Mac over Windows. He's just not saying he thinks it's necessarily better for everyone. :P -------------------- The Empire Always Loses: This Time For Sure! Posts: 9973 | Registered: Saturday, March 30 2002 08:00 |
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Shock Trooper
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written Wednesday, January 11 2006 21:41
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Code::Blocks, Dev-CPP or some commercial cross-platform IDE. SDL. Game library. You now have cross platform development. I'm writing a game atm using those things. :) quote: -------------------- Windows XP P4 1.84gig 768MB RAM Radeon 9700 Pro Posts: 202 | Registered: Thursday, March 14 2002 08:00 |