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Koala Cull in General
Kelandon
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 written Monday, May 10 2004 10:48 Profile Homepage #100
quote:
And how can we leave waste, that poisons the world over decades?
The same way that we can drive H2's now and pollute the bejeezus out of everything for no reason. My state, California, recently repealed a tax on excessively polluting cars, and then it cut schools' budgets again. I don't know how the comparisons go, but our current fossil fuel power is going to leave waste that poisons the world for a considerable amount of time, too.

I tend to agree with AM, though. One of the major reasons that we don't like to use recycled materials or alternative energy sources is that they are more expensive. At the current rate of oil price increase, though, it shouldn't be long before alternative energy starts looking more attractive.

[ Monday, May 10, 2004 10:49: Message edited by: Kelandon ]

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High level scenarios wanted in Blades of Avernum
Kelandon
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 written Monday, May 10 2004 06:16 Profile Homepage #24
This sounds as though it will involve a lot of saving and reloading. Be careful not to make it too much, or it will get annoying.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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Howard Dean gone mad? in General
Kelandon
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 written Monday, May 10 2004 06:01 Profile Homepage #23
No, they skipped the breadsticks part and moved straight to rioting and police brutality in the streets (see the 1968 Democratic convention).

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Undead Topics Need Loving Too (aka "Give Me Your First-Born") in General
Kelandon
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 written Sunday, May 9 2004 11:27 Profile Homepage #130
I have to say, I'm rather fond of the ALORAEL acronyms. They should continue. Although referring to him as TNLIV was kind of fun, too.

Kelandon, who remembers (although Alorael apparently doesn't) This Name Left Intentionally Vague. :P

[ Sunday, May 09, 2004 11:27: Message edited by: Kelandon ]

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I can't quite figure this out. in Blades of Avernum
Kelandon
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 written Sunday, May 9 2004 10:53 Profile Homepage #17
I don't really get the point of the BoA hintbook (I was expecting more from it), but I like the other hintbooks. Without the A3 hintbook, how could I be completely sure that I had finished every single subquest in the game?

Besides, certain spells (Haste in the Trilogy, although not in Blades) just *need* to be learned at level 3, and sometimes that can be obscure. Yes, hint sites have that information up now, but if you bought the game within a week after it came out, those hint sites weren't up yet.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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Will there be scenarios as good as A1 and A2? in Blades of Avernum
Kelandon
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 written Sunday, May 9 2004 10:41 Profile Homepage #3
My bad, I forgot to mention that. Reviews are at the Lyceum, specifically under the topic Comprehensive BOE Scenario Rankings.

EDIT: And longer reviews are here.

EDIT 2: And while I'm at it, the Lyceum's front page.

[ Sunday, May 09, 2004 10:54: Message edited by: Kelandon ]

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
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Will there be scenarios as good as A1 and A2? in Blades of Avernum
Kelandon
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 written Sunday, May 9 2004 09:17 Profile Homepage #1
Many people say that a good number of BoE scenarios are better than the Exile games. I've heard it said of the greatest scenario designers (Alcritas, Stareye, Brett Bixler, et al) that their works are better than the E's.

For some reason, the underworld doesn't seem to have captured the imagination of the designers the way that the surface has, but there are still plenty of scens for BoE set in Exile, so I imagine there will be a number in Avernum, too.

If Stareye could make AtG for BoE, I assume somebody will make something equally massive and cool for BoA. (Maybe he himself will. I hear he's working on something.)

To get some concept of what BoA might do, just go and read some scenario reviews for BoE. You don't even have to play the scenarios. Just read the reviews. You'll get some idea of the magnitude of what has already been accomplished in the old engine and therefore what can be done in the new one.

[ Sunday, May 09, 2004 09:18: Message edited by: Kelandon ]

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever
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Howard Dean gone mad? in General
Kelandon
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 written Saturday, May 8 2004 14:00 Profile Homepage #15
Now that I think about it, we've never really had a good center-left party in the US. Until recently, the Democrats were clogged with a bunch of Southern conservatives.

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Howard Dean gone mad? in General
Kelandon
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 written Saturday, May 8 2004 10:30 Profile Homepage #8
I was definitely a Dean supporter, and I thought the media's portrayal of his "flubs" was grossly sensationalistic. The statement that we aren't safer now after having started the Iraq War was taken as a factually inaccurate verbal mistake, and as evidence of his unfitness for the presidency. I think it's a legitimate viewpoint. It may or may not be wrong, but it's not absurd.

I don't really like Kerry. He's too bland. He reminds me too much of the descriptions I've heard of Dukakis (the '88 Dem nominee, for anyone who doesn't know). Dean reminded me a lot of old footage of Truman, or even FDR, to some extent. He excited people who weren't normally a part of the voting population, and he might've changed politics, if not dramatically, then at least a little.

Oh well. I decided that this election is an important one. Bush has started two wars, alienated our old allies, and lowered further the intellectual requirements of being president, as well as appointing people whom I find loathsome to his Cabinet. I want the vote total to be as high against him as possible, so I'll vote for his main adversary.

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Happy Beltane! in General
Kelandon
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 written Saturday, May 8 2004 10:19 Profile Homepage #77
quote:
No, you mis-read.
No, I rephrased. You can claim that I misquoted you, but not that I misunderstood you.

quote:
it is possible to create a method of predicting someone's behaviour that will work 99.9999% of the time.
Not with what we know about people right now. Psychology have been struggling with this problem for more than a century (and sociology and cognitive science for a bit less), and even the greatest methods are considerably fallible.

quote:
if you know anything about "mob psychology", it would become easier as more people were included
I do know a bit about mob psychology. I also know that mob psychology, in the strictest sense of the phrase, only works when all of the people in the mob are gathered in one place. You can't use mob psychology to analyze an entire city, for instance, unless that city is gathered at a rally at the moment of analysis.

Certain indicators can predict broad trends in mass behavior, but the science of these is in its infancy.

Anyway, getting back to the anarchy thing -- so as not to obliterate this topic the way that we did the other one -- Alec, what is it about anarchy that makes it an ideal for you? The personal freedom? The fact that everyone participates? Or what?

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Over my rather deceased cadaver. Rrrrrrr. in General
Kelandon
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 written Saturday, May 8 2004 09:25 Profile Homepage #66
FBM: If I was, I'd start referring to America as a "colony".
Alec: In case your history fails you, the treaty of Paris was in 1782.

FBM: You also have a sentence structuring which... needs help, let alone the grammar. "stand on its own legs absent the mainstream religions", "foster social mores.".
Mores: The accepted traditional customs and usages of a particular social group.
BtI: FBM, you were wrong about the grammatical point.

FBM: what you seem to forget is that the majority of the high-ups in the Republican party are, in fact, Jewish. Donald Rumsfeld for one.
Boots: Rumsfeld isn't Jewish. But thanks for playing Find the Jewish Conspiracy! Better luck next week.
AM: Why don't you take some time to learn about the government instead of reacting to the media and blaming problems on Jewish people (who's biased here?), and then come back to talk?

FBM: Anarchy is merely a lack of government. You over-complicate it, and thereby lose the point.
Anarchism: The name given to a principle or theory of life and conduct under which society is conceived without government - harmony in such a society being obtained, not by submission to law, or by obedience to any authority, but by free agreements concluded between the various groups, territorial and professional, freely constituted for the sake of production and consumption, as also for the satisfaction of the infinite variety of needs and aspirations of a civilized being. [This goes on.]

BtI: You're a snotty 14 year old with a serious case of arrogant stupidity.

FBM: Well quite frankly I'm sure even Alec could come up with something better than most of the societies we have nowdays.
Alec: I'd start with getting rid of you. Anyone in the Isles up to a contract hit? The pay isn't so great, but the satisfaction of the job should be more than enough of a motivator.
FBM: Devising a new system is not easy.

FBM: You sir, are a barbarian.
AM: Maybe if you say something substantive instead of flaming everyone, you'll get something out of it.

FBM: One last thing, NEVER, EVER say that something is certain or definite or impossible. NEVER use the one or the zero.

Alec: You know, it's very convenient to be able to say you were just joking when someone essentially proves that you are the worst sort of idiot.

FBM: I lay down the tenets and look... damn semantics frags it.
Semantics: The meaning or the interpretation of a word, sentence, or other language form.

FBM: I have exceedingly good VERBAL skills.
FBM: I cannot think of the correct words.
Verbal: Of, relating to, or associated with words
Skill: Proficiency, facility, or dexterity that is acquired or developed through training or experience.
FBM: Oooooo! Madam!

FBM: I deal in practicallities
Alorael: I think FBM needs to get off his high horse and fix his own posts before complaining about others' perfectly acceptable use of language.

Good verbal skills. Yeah. And lost_king was a good scenario designer.

[ Saturday, May 08, 2004 09:27: Message edited by: Kelandon ]

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Kelandon
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 written Saturday, May 8 2004 08:26 Profile Homepage #75
Okay, then, Mr. Pragmatism, as you claim to be, what can you do with the information that humans are human?

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Kelandon
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 written Saturday, May 8 2004 08:13 Profile Homepage #73
quote:
But it makes them predictable enough for the purpose of the experiment.
No.

What exactly would you count on them to do? What "range" of human behaviors would you expect? Remember that the seriously mentally ill and the exceedingly brilliant have been known to do some VERY bizarre things at times. Beyond certain biological needs, I would go so far as to say that you can't really count on any behavior from human beings. Name something that you can count on all people to do.

[ Saturday, May 08, 2004 08:14: Message edited by: Kelandon ]

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Undead Topics Need Loving Too (aka "Give Me Your First-Born") in General
Kelandon
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 written Saturday, May 8 2004 08:08 Profile Homepage #119
quote:
The question being: has this topic just become quarterly spammage?
This goes to show that some people just don't get it.

But TM, why? Why? Tentacle Monster was so simple, because it made the TM acronym make sense! Now you'll get people calling you TMR or something. Think of the newbies, TM! The newbies!

[ Saturday, May 08, 2004 08:08: Message edited by: Kelandon ]

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Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
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Howard Dean gone mad? in General
Kelandon
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 written Saturday, May 8 2004 08:04 Profile Homepage #3
Dean's "scream" speech was exaggerated. The reason that it sounded so strange was that the microphone on him filtered out the crowd noise. If you listen to unfiltered footage, you can barely hear him over the crowd.

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Kelandon
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 written Saturday, May 8 2004 07:05 Profile Homepage #84
quote:
And yeah, getting hydrogen in the first place is still going to require a bunch of energy from somewhere.
Enzymes, baby! One current area of research involves enzymes that seem to take water and split it apart without requiring people to put in [EDIT: Khoth's right, without MUCH] energy. It's considerably cheaper than electrolysis, our current method -- and by considerably cheaper, I mean that it costs on the order of a sixth as much. Electrolysis brings the price of hydrogen above the price of gasoline, so that it would be more expensive at the moment to use hydrogen power, but if the enzyme method works, hydrogen would actually be cheaper than gasoline.

Storage is still an issue, though. I am under the impression that people are researching as hard as they can on this. This and the cost issue are the major reasons that countries haven't made the conversion yet, not, as FBM said, because of the evil energy companies.

As an interesting example, Iceland is in the process of converting to a hydrogen-based system right now. I think their mass transit is significantly hydrogen-run at this point, although I don't know percentages.

And yeah, nuke power seems like a good idea to me.

About solar power: my school, UC Berkeley, installed solar panels on top of a lot of its larger buildings recently. Now, instead of being a significant consumer of power, we generate almost all the power that we need, and in some months, we generate more and send it back to the power grid for a refund. We are in fact a power plant. If a lot of large univerisities, factories, and businesses did this, we would cut power consumption noticeably.

[ Saturday, May 08, 2004 07:57: Message edited by: Kelandon ]

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uh-oh, I got an idea... in Blades of Avernum Editor
Kelandon
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 written Saturday, May 8 2004 06:43 Profile Homepage #9
quote:
It's actually a punishment for players who pick the wrong route.
Well, that's okay, then. I've seen scenarios (in BoE, forget which offhand, it's been three years) that have invulnerable monsters in the way if you choose the wrong path. You can assume that people are saving at every critical juncture.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever
Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
uh-oh, I got an idea... in Blades of Avernum
Kelandon
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 written Saturday, May 8 2004 06:43 Profile Homepage #9
quote:
It's actually a punishment for players who pick the wrong route.
Well, that's okay, then. I've seen scenarios (in BoE, forget which offhand, it's been three years) that have invulnerable monsters in the way if you choose the wrong path. You can assume that people are saving at every critical juncture.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever
Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Koala Cull in General
Kelandon
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 written Friday, May 7 2004 15:17 Profile Homepage #73
Erm, why not? By your semi-colon, I judge that your two statements are connected, but I don't know the connection. Hydrogen power, if we can use the enzyme method, seems like it would work on any scale you'd like. It's not as though there's a shortage of water...

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Calls that we wish existed in Blades of Avernum Editor
Kelandon
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 written Friday, May 7 2004 15:10 Profile Homepage #93
quote:
So it's probably a Bad Thing(tm)
Hey, what are you trying to say about TM?

This is what we have so far, grouped roughly by degree of possibility:

Calls:
short get_energy(short which_char)

void deduct_char_ap(short which_char, short amount)

void set_year(short year)

void crumble_terrain(short loc_x, short loc_y)

void put_missile_animation(short source_x,short source_y,short dest_x,short dest_y)

short approach_location(short which_char_or_group, short loc_x, short loc_y, short within_dist)

void equip_item_in_slot(short which_char, short

which_item, short which_slot)

short has_item_of_variety(short which_variety, short take_item)

short item_uses_in_slot(short which_char, short which_slot)

void alter_item_uses_in_slot(short which_char, short which_slot, short amount)

void cast_spell(short target_char,short mage_or_priest,short which_spell)

short path_ok(short start_loc_x, short start_loc_y, short end_loc_x, short end_loc_y)

short request_number() -- to get a numeric input

void block_entry_special(short blocked_to_which_char_or_group, short do_blockage)

void fade_to_black()

void fade_from_black()

void identify_item -- not sure how to set up the parameters for this one

reset_floors(short do_reset)

reset_terrains(short do reset)

short get_pressed_key()

Non-call things:
"next/previous" buttons for creatures that cycle through all the placed creatures in town

a predefined END_TALK state for NPCs

customizable scenario icons

custom character status icons

support for custom sounds

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever
Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Calls that we wish existed in Blades of Avernum
Kelandon
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Member # 4045
 written Friday, May 7 2004 15:10 Profile Homepage #93
quote:
So it's probably a Bad Thing(tm)
Hey, what are you trying to say about TM?

This is what we have so far, grouped roughly by degree of possibility:

Calls:
short get_energy(short which_char)

void deduct_char_ap(short which_char, short amount)

void set_year(short year)

void crumble_terrain(short loc_x, short loc_y)

void put_missile_animation(short source_x,short source_y,short dest_x,short dest_y)

short approach_location(short which_char_or_group, short loc_x, short loc_y, short within_dist)

void equip_item_in_slot(short which_char, short

which_item, short which_slot)

short has_item_of_variety(short which_variety, short take_item)

short item_uses_in_slot(short which_char, short which_slot)

void alter_item_uses_in_slot(short which_char, short which_slot, short amount)

void cast_spell(short target_char,short mage_or_priest,short which_spell)

short path_ok(short start_loc_x, short start_loc_y, short end_loc_x, short end_loc_y)

short request_number() -- to get a numeric input

void block_entry_special(short blocked_to_which_char_or_group, short do_blockage)

void fade_to_black()

void fade_from_black()

void identify_item -- not sure how to set up the parameters for this one

reset_floors(short do_reset)

reset_terrains(short do reset)

short get_pressed_key()

Non-call things:
"next/previous" buttons for creatures that cycle through all the placed creatures in town

a predefined END_TALK state for NPCs

customizable scenario icons

custom character status icons

support for custom sounds

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever
Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Party Makers in Blades of Avernum Editor
Kelandon
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 written Friday, May 7 2004 14:24 Profile Homepage #0
Purely for the purposes of testing the coding of a scenario that I'm working on ( ;) ), I made a god-party-maker. It's a scenario that levels the party up to an extremely high level (about 100 or so), gives it god equipment and lots of cash, and then ends. I think this qualifies as a utility or something. Three questions:

1. Does anyone want it?

2. Does anyone think I should submit this to Spiderweb as a utility scenario?

3. As a related point, does anyone think I should submit my high level party maker to SW as a utility scenario? It's designed to make a party level 35-40, with documentation explaining how to change the scen to make the intended level higher or lower.

I am unsure if any of this stuf would be useful to anyone other than me, so responses either way are welcome.

EDIT: Gah, now that I think about it, this probably should go in the Editor forum. If a mod agrees with me, feel free to move it.

[ Friday, May 07, 2004 14:27: Message edited by: Kelandon ]

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever
Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Party Makers in Blades of Avernum
Kelandon
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 written Friday, May 7 2004 14:24 Profile Homepage #0
Purely for the purposes of testing the coding of a scenario that I'm working on ( ;) ), I made a god-party-maker. It's a scenario that levels the party up to an extremely high level (about 100 or so), gives it god equipment and lots of cash, and then ends. I think this qualifies as a utility or something. Three questions:

1. Does anyone want it?

2. Does anyone think I should submit this to Spiderweb as a utility scenario?

3. As a related point, does anyone think I should submit my high level party maker to SW as a utility scenario? It's designed to make a party level 35-40, with documentation explaining how to change the scen to make the intended level higher or lower.

I am unsure if any of this stuf would be useful to anyone other than me, so responses either way are welcome.

EDIT: Gah, now that I think about it, this probably should go in the Editor forum. If a mod agrees with me, feel free to move it.

[ Friday, May 07, 2004 14:27: Message edited by: Kelandon ]

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever
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Koala Cull in General
Kelandon
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 written Friday, May 7 2004 14:05 Profile Homepage #71
Here's to hoping that hydrogen power will significantly reduce these problems, if not solve them. I've heard really diverse estimates on how soon that will be cheap enough to be usable, ranging from under a decade to thirty or forty years. Until then, yeah, take mass transit when you can, ride a bike when you can, walk, etc.

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Over my rather deceased cadaver. Rrrrrrr. in General
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 written Friday, May 7 2004 14:02 Profile Homepage #64
From most factually inaccurate to least:
quote:
There are very few countries that use one or an equivilent and those that do, generally speaking, are lame.
The United States, Canada, Mexico, France, Spain, Italy, Russia, China, Japan, South Africa... can anyone name a country that is not either the UK or in a state of civil war that does NOT have a constitution?

quote:
So I am afraid to inform you that you are in mistake in believing agreement.
Read my post again, carefully. Note how incredibly modified and qualified the statements regarding agreement were. I say that your thinking is fundamentally flawed, and you say that there will be issues that need to be worked out. That constitutes agreement on some level, that the system is neither complete nor as good as you want it to be. I am neither "in mistake" nor (the correct word) mistaken.

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And quite frankly, your apparent requirement to have documents ruling the government, rather than actual plain ole common sense, is, shall we say, disappointing
I didn't say that you had to have a document. I said that you had to be careful with your wording. If you really want to be a revolutionary leader some day, you have to make sure that other people know what you're talking about. As a point of fact, no revolutionary leader has ever risen to any level of prominence, much less succeeded, without possessing good verbal skills.

Government by "plain ole common sense" is an interesting concept, but your common sense may not be the same as other people's common sense. Look at any truly divisive issue today and you'll see what I mean.

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You keep on harping about solving the problems. The dang thing isn't even half-finished yet! Is a programmer able to fix the bugs in a line of code BEFORE it is written
I'm saying, and I will say again until you understand/believe me, that I think my objections point to fundamental flaws in the way you're going about designing your system. You may disagree, but you can't correctly say that I'm making an effort to nitpick, because I'm not. Fundamental flaws and superficial flaws are different. If I were pointing out superficial flaws, that would be one thing, and your response would be appropriate. However, I do not believe that I am. Therefore, you should at least have the courtesy to disagree with me but recognize what I am doing.

I would accept you saying that you think that you will work out the things that I am bringing up during later phases of planning, but not that I shouldn't be bringing them up. Better to prevent than to patch haphazardly.

Moreover, a programmer may not be able to fix typos in a line of code before he writes it, but a programmer can (and should -- every halfway decent programmer does this) make sure that the logic of his code makes sense before he writes it. (To make a BoA reference) You can't have a creature with animated flashing colors using Avernumscript, so there's no point in planning to code for that and take out the bugs later. The call simply doesn't exist.

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