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Regrettable But in General
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Mostly for fun, I wrote some rules for an election that I think would work better. Then I realized that these rules might actually be sort of good.

We could have this election beginning on August 1st, 2006, for the spot potentially filled by this current election.

Basically the idea of these rules is to be lenient with registrations, eliminate the less-than-serious candidates in one round, eliminate all but two others in a second round, and then have a majority decide in the final round. It would take about a month.

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As soon the administration agrees to hold an election (by unanimous consent of the admins), a topic will be made on the Moderator Board concerning this election. The administration will either choose an admin or ask for volunteers among the moderators of the board for which the election is being held (i.e. a General mod for an election in General) for an official to run the election, who will create all necessary topics and lock them when the time comes (which is why the official has to be an admin or moderator of the board). Conflicts of interest should be avoided, so that anyone who intends to stand in the election should not run the election.

Once an election official is chosen, the official will make a topic titled with the year of the election and the phrase "Election Rules," as in "2006 Election Rules." The topic post will include these rules, and it will be open for any questions about what the rules mean. Interpretation of the rules is at the descretion of the administration.

Next, the official will make a topic similarly titled, except with "Registration" instead of "Rules." In this topic, voters will post to declare themselves registered to vote. Any post in the registration topic will be considered a registration post. Any vote cast at any point during the registration period (lasting until the end of step 3 in the process outlined below) will also be considered a registration, and the official will post on the registration topic to indicate that a member has registered via e-mail.

Most campaigning should be done in the campaigning thread, similarly created by the official and titled except with "Campaigning" instead of "Rules," which will be open until the election is over. Hijacking other topics is forbidden, but obviously if the topic comes up naturally, then discussion is acceptable. Use good sense.

The election will consist of the following periods, each lasting one week:

1. Candidacy declaration. All candidates should post in the candidates thread, similarly titled except with "Candidates" instead of "Rules," including this exact sentence somewhere in the post: "I declare my candidacy for moderator of General." Any ambiguous declaration will be considered invalid, and the official will post to notify the member. At the end of this period, the official will lock the topic.

2. Primary voting. The official will create a new single-post locked topic, similarly titled except with "Candidates List" instead of "Rules," and list the registered candidates, giving their member numbers, current Publicly Displayed Names, and normal monikers (i.e. 8787 His Postly Cheese "HPC"). The official will also state his or her e-mail address and the total number of candidates. Each member gets as many votes as there are declared candidates, which can be distributed to any registered member on the boards, NOT just the declared candidates (write-ins are acceptable). These votes will be cast by secret ballot in the form of an e-mail to the official. A voter may change his or her votes during this round by means of another e-mail to the official, but candidates may not redistribute their own votes directly.

At the end of the week, the official will unlock the topic in order to post a list of the candidates who received enough votes to move on to the next stage. A candidate must receive at least as many votes as three times the number of candidates running (so if there are 30 candidates, a candidate must receive 90 votes in order to proceed).

3. General election. All candidates who passed the primary will be eligible in the general election, but write-ins will NOT be allowed. Votes will again be done in e-mail form to the election official, this time using a preferential system. The voter must give a first-choice candidate and then may rank as many of the remaining candidates as desired in order of preference (with no ties). Voters again may change their own votes at any time during this period.

Once the deadline has passed, the candidate with the lowest number of first-choice votes will be eliminated and the votes listing that candidate as a first choice will then go to their second choice. Once the votes are tallied again, the candidate with the lowest number of votes will be eliminated and the votes will go to their next choice, and so on until only two candidates remain.

The official will again unlock the "Candidates List" thread in order to post the two candidates who will move on to the next round. Also, the official will lock the "Registration" thread and no further registrations will be allowed.

4. Run-off. Each voter may cast a single vote for one of the two candidates, again by secret ballot in the form of an e-mail to the official. The candidate with the greater number of votes at the end of this period will win. Voters again may change their own votes at any time during this period.

The official will lock the "Campaigning" topic and create a new topic, similarly titled except with "Winner" and will state the winner of the run-off. At the administration's discretion, the winner will become a new moderator of the board for which the election was held.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
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Scent of new-mown hay in Richard White Games
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Ancient Greek is particularly insane with its multiplicity of tenses formed entirely from principle parts and endings. At least most major modern languages with as many tenses as Ancient Greek have the decency to use auxiliary verbs.

Also, pitch accent is nutty but beautiful.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
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Alright, NOW what in General
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quote:
Originally written by Dolphin.:

going from ten days to three months is a big leap.
That's true, but it's supposed to be. Do you really think that someone who has been warned, Canned, warned again, and Banned for a week, who has then come back and been exactly the same as before, do you really think that such a person would care if another short ban were instated?

Three months is supposed to be a jolt.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever
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Regrettable But in General
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I didn't like the rules either, but no one objected when they were first proposed, so I didn't bother.

I do suggest that we never use these rules again, though.

EDIT: But those who think that my actions completely nullified the voters' choices would do well to look at the original vote count again, particularly the "Thuryl 213, Alec 110, Stughalf 106" part. Aran and Thuryl had gigantic margins from the rest. Alec and Stughalf were essentially neck-and-neck. This whole controversy arose from the secondary candidates (TM, Dolphin, and me) serving as a tiebreaker.

[ Wednesday, July 20, 2005 09:11: Message edited by: Kelandon ]

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever
Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Regrettable But in General
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So I did wrong because Alec didn't understand the rules that he himself wrote?

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
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Drunk Again in General
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Many would tell you that Good Charlotte isn't punk. I'd tell them that in order to be able to say that, they'd have to come up with hard and fast rules about what defines punk, and it'd be much easier just to believe people when they call their music "punk."

It occurs to me that the importance of punk may not have been so much the pure punk songs, anyway, but the effect it had on other genres. Punk rock definitely influenced Nirvana and the grunge scene, even if grunge isn't punk by any stretch of the imagination.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever
Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Regrettable But in General
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Quite a few more threads on General concern me directly (as in, mention my name) than have in the recent past.

I think mostly they're getting this from the fact that I have said that I don't spend that much time in General, which is true compared to how much I used to until a few months ago.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever
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I win! in General
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Hey, if my web page is pink and pretty, my title might as well be, too.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
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Titles in Blades of Avernum
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Thuryl did some investigation into this here.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
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Ska originated in the fifties, though. It has a weirder history than any other genre I can think of.

Punk has never had vocalists that were good in the way that, say, Paul McCartney was good, but they've had some that were good in their own ways. I like a fair number of bands that have some relation to punk, from the Sex Pistols (who never really had time to release many good songs) to Bad Religion (generally unremembered because they're little more melodic than most punk) to Billy Idol (who originally was an old school punk rocker), and my favorite band of right now is Green Day, who is doing more relevant music than just about anyone else at the moment.

Incidentally, punk has evolved. As much as Good Charlotte sucks, it's hard to imagine the Sex Pistols releasing a song like "Hold On." I would argue that the Ramones did more things with the genre than most people realize, too.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever
Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
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quote:
Originally written by Lady Davida:

Is your brother on these boards, Kel?
Nope. If it wasn't clear, I was citing a conversation I had with my older brother several years back.

My little brother plays Spiderweb games sometimes, though, and you may seem him around here someday.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.

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I wish there was something I could do to help, but I doubt there is. I don't know the first thing about C code, and while I've been meaning to learn, I don't have any books or anything, and I'm guessing that what you're doing is a bit too advanced for a beginner anyway.

I'd love to help with any beta testing when the time comes, though, and I can point out some bugs/issues with the current 3D Editor.

[ Monday, July 18, 2005 19:47: Message edited by: Kelandon ]

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever
Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
BoA Editor Remake in Blades of Avernum
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I wish there was something I could do to help, but I doubt there is. I don't know the first thing about C code, and while I've been meaning to learn, I don't have any books or anything, and I'm guessing that what you're doing is a bit too advanced for a beginner anyway.

I'd love to help with any beta testing when the time comes, though, and I can point out some bugs/issues with the current 3D Editor.

[ Monday, July 18, 2005 19:47: Message edited by: Kelandon ]

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever
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Avernum 4 Complete Wish List in The Avernum Trilogy
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That's how I feel about the real-time vs. turn-based thing.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever
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Drunk Again in General
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You know what's odd? Ska-metal.

I think my brother cited the local band Mephiskapheles as an example, but I'm none too sure.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
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Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Regrettable But in General
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quote:
Originally written by Thuryl:

likewise, Kel seldom reads or posts on General.
This statement is about half-true. I definitely read most threads.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
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Where is unlock level 3? Av 1 in The Avernum Trilogy
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You don't need Unlock Doors L3. There's a secret passage, IIRC.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever
Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
I win! in General
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quote:
Originally written by The Almighty Doer of Stuff:

Stareye (or was it Zeviz? I forget) gave me a title once, but it was horrible and offensive. I asked him to change it, so he changed it to something even more horrible and offensive. This was repeated several times unti l I just gave up and said "Fine! I don't want a custom title then!" and he removed it.
So ADoS gets his title removed, but I don't? Drakey hates me. :(

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
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As far as I know, that amounts to three grudges: Zeviz against Alec, and Alec and TM against me (none of which, as far as I know, are mutual).

The rest of them are jokes or empty rhetoric.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
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quote:
Originally written by Stugri-La:

However, as even you agree, he would hardly be as vehement or as tireless in his "defense" if Alec and TM weren't involved. He seems unwilling to admit even that.
If Alec or TM weren't involved, it seems unlikely that the language would have gotten so harsh and aggressive. I think Ash was responding more to that than to the identities of the people involved.

Stug, there are a lot fewer grudges in this community than you seem inclined to believe.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
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This sounds really good, or at least it sounds as though it will be really good when the first release comes out. My main question is how close we are to that.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever
Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
BoA Editor Remake in Blades of Avernum
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This sounds really good, or at least it sounds as though it will be really good when the first release comes out. My main question is how close we are to that.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever
Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
BoA Editor Remake in Blades of Avernum Editor
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*poke*

Wondering where this is these days. Badly wishing for the palettes. Update on progress?

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever
Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
BoA Editor Remake in Blades of Avernum
Off With Their Heads
Member # 4045
Profile Homepage #130
*poke*

Wondering where this is these days. Badly wishing for the palettes. Update on progress?

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever
Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Where is unlock level 3? Av 1 in The Avernum Trilogy
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Oh yeah! You have to join the Scimitar, I think, and then Erika tells you the word "Divulge," and then one of the living statues somewhere — Almaria, maybe? — gives it to you.

Well, it's something like that, anyway.

EDIT: Read the edited first post. Yes, the living statue in Almaria gives it to you once Erika has told you to ask it the word "Divulge." The living statue is in a group of other statues in the southwest.

[ Sunday, July 17, 2005 20:28: Message edited by: Kelandon ]

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever
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