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Not me, of course, but Reel Big Fish... anyway, can anyone find either a piano tab for the song Drunk Again or something I could convert to a piano tab? It's not quite as easy to find as I'd thought it would be...

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Ah, ska...

The bane of punk as we knew it.

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Punk, ska, heavy metal, emo, indie...they're all the same, really. All lame derivations of good ole rock'n'roll. Punk was at its best back in '77, and even then it was none too good.

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BLASPHEMY!

I'm appalled at your grouping of emo with the likes of heavy metal and ska.

If I was qualified to vote in this election... you lost mine, buddy!

And this is all in good nature!

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You know what's odd? Ska-metal.

I think my brother cited the local band Mephiskapheles as an example, but I'm none too sure.

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You know what's worse?

Bands like Good Charlotte and Simple Plan, trying to create "emo-pop" where it doesn't belong... that being mainstream.

Emo-pop belongs in our garages and local features. Just say no, kids.

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quote:
Originally written by demonslaeyr:

Emo-pop belongs in our garages and local features. Just say no, kids.
Nah, it belongs in our sound-proofed cells. :P

Of course, I know emo sounds nothing like ska or metal. I grouped them all together as modern, derivative version of pop/rock. Yes, I know they suck in different ways, but the fact remains that they all suck. :P

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Ugh. Not even there.

I don't understand the widespread rejection of ska in general. I've heard plenty of bad ska, to be sure, but that can be said of any musical genre. I also don't quite understand why people have a problem with the evolution of rock - seems like a natural process with positive results to me. Sure, some of the offshoots are unworthy violations of the sanctity of rock, but others have taken the genre far above its roots. I am a purist about something things, but certainly not about rock. Alternative all the way.

Is your brother on these boards, Kel?

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quote:
Originally written by Lady Davida:

Is your brother on these boards, Kel?
Nope. If it wasn't clear, I was citing a conversation I had with my older brother several years back.

My little brother plays Spiderweb games sometimes, though, and you may seem him around here someday.

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I saw Mephiskapheles once at a ska fest and wasn't too impressed. The more traditional ska bands, like the Scofflaws, Mustard Plug, the Toasters, and the Pie Tasters definitely put on a better show.

Not that I ever listen to ska, or anything...
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quote:
Originally written by Lady Davida:

Sure, some of the offshoots are unworthy violations of the sanctity of rock, but others have taken the genre far above its roots.
Do you honestly believe this? I'm inclined to believe that your background on the "roots" of rock'n'roll might be a bit lacking. Otherwise, I suppose it's just another case where there's no accounting for tastes.

Granted, punk/new wave was initially a decent idea. Brainless corporate rock was really taking over in the late seventies, and initially the new movement somewhat reanimated the corpse of rock, going back to energetic basics after several years of increasingly heavy-handed production values and the sapping of energy from the music.

However, even the best early punk/new wave bands were never great in my opinion, as they tended to lack quality musicianship and spotlight frankly terrible vocalists. And unfortunately, punk has failed to evolve significantly in the last quarter-century and has ossified to the point that variety in the genre is almost nil.

As for ska, it's nothing but a crass retread of classic seventies horn-powered rock, with a cute, insubstantial steel-band element thrown in. Just too derivative to be interesting, in my book.

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Ska originated in the fifties, though. It has a weirder history than any other genre I can think of.

Punk has never had vocalists that were good in the way that, say, Paul McCartney was good, but they've had some that were good in their own ways. I like a fair number of bands that have some relation to punk, from the Sex Pistols (who never really had time to release many good songs) to Bad Religion (generally unremembered because they're little more melodic than most punk) to Billy Idol (who originally was an old school punk rocker), and my favorite band of right now is Green Day, who is doing more relevant music than just about anyone else at the moment.

Incidentally, punk has evolved. As much as Good Charlotte sucks, it's hard to imagine the Sex Pistols releasing a song like "Hold On." I would argue that the Ramones did more things with the genre than most people realize, too.

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We should scrap all of this new stuff. It all sucks compared to Motown anyway.

My favorite 'band' nowadays would have to be the St. Lunatics, with Barenaked Ladies in second. Suffice it to say, I listen much more to individual artists.

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Fugazi's still out there, too.

EDIT: This was aimed at Kel's post.

I'm currently looking for recommendations. Even though I have my library on my iPod, having the same music to listen to everyday on the commute gets tiresome. Any recommendations for a new (or great but overlooked) sound out there, not the Killers? Hint: Coldplay and Radiohead are old hat.

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Bad Religion is by far my favorite punk band. I'm not a huge fan of The Sex Pistols or The Ramones.
Also, see my signature for a really good local pop-punk band. They've only released four recorded songs, but they play several more in concert and are working on a full album.

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I'm merely tired of ska, as a local band (consisting of friends of mine) is getting locally famous... even though it's not that great.

The rest of us go to their gigs, but agree ska isn't our thing. We'll always be suckers for scremo, apparently.

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Ska is moderately big around here for the same reason, except the band actually is quite good.

ADoS, I must admit, I didn't like a single thing about any of their songs. Pop-punk has never been my thing and never will.

Drew, I don't know what you think about piano-based pop/rock, but Ben Folds is amazing. I recommend his newest album, Songs for Silverman, to you if you think you might like his softer, melodic sound.

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My collection of pre-50's vinyl makes me happy. There is nothing more exhilirating than listening to the rice krispy flavored rendition of the Duke or Benny Goodman.

As far as ska goes, I must have stuck on the main highway while ska was only available at the bypasses. Oh well, it least it let me like Good Charlotte until the repetativeness of commercial radio drove me into a murderous rampage.

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quote:
Originally written by Jumpin' Salmon:

...the repetativeness of commercial radio drove me into a murderous rampage.
Are you in hiding, then, or do they let you post in prison?

EDIT: Not jail...

[ Tuesday, July 19, 2005 19:03: Message edited by: Lady Davida ]

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quote:
Originally written by Kelandon:

Incidentally, punk has evolved. As much as Good Charlotte sucks, it's hard to imagine the Sex Pistols releasing a song like "Hold On." I would argue that the Ramones did more things with the genre than most people realize, too.
Is Good Charlotte really punk, though? I believe most punk purists would write them off as sellouts, unworthy of a genre which has long been defined by opposition to mainstream music and corporate dominance of the industry. This strong opposition mentality pervading the genre has likely prevented much experimentation within it. A double-edged sword, in a way.

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Many would tell you that Good Charlotte isn't punk. I'd tell them that in order to be able to say that, they'd have to come up with hard and fast rules about what defines punk, and it'd be much easier just to believe people when they call their music "punk."

It occurs to me that the importance of punk may not have been so much the pure punk songs, anyway, but the effect it had on other genres. Punk rock definitely influenced Nirvana and the grunge scene, even if grunge isn't punk by any stretch of the imagination.

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Well being influenced and being are two different things.

It's the usual acception that punk revolves around several centric ideas, mostly boiling down to lyrics of hate towards those that done you wrong.

To say that GC is geared towards hate is saying that George Lucas is geared towards engrossing dialogue.

Many would then argue that instead, GC is considered pop/punk, a (usually) upbeat brand of punk feature guitar heavy music, and 90% of the time, loves songs. The other 10% is soundly split between breakup songs, random idiocies, and political agendas.

I would counter-argue that pop/punk bands don't use a computer to keep their drummer in beat, ah-thank you.

I view these bands for exactly what they are: corporate "punk". A cheap way to make some bucks off the one scene that was out of touch.

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quote:
Originally written by demonslaeyr:

It's the usual acception that punk revolves around several centric ideas, mostly boiling down to lyrics of hate towards those that done you wrong.
I never knew that punk and country were such similar genres.

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Trying to define music genres beyond a vague wave of the hand is a fool's game. Especially when the culture of the music comes into play - can it be Gangsta Rap if you grew up in a middle-class home, even it sounds the same?

As far as I'm concerned, punk = fast, energetic rock. Good Charlotte are punk in my book, and I even think they're pretty good.

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