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Regrettable But in General
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Profile #64
quote:
Originally written by Frankie Vallium:

Meanwhile! Can we not try and feign some respect for the unusually terse Mr. Kyras here? Or, failing that, a topic-locking...
That respect does not seem to be forthcoming, and as such it seems that a lock is the only sensible course of action. Ash, Sully and co. are seemingly filled with the fury of a thousand bereaved mothers and will not cease in their attacks otherwise.

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Stughalf

"Delusion arises from anger. The mind is bewildered by delusion. Reasoning is destroyed when the mind is bewildered. One falls down when reasoning is destroyed."- The Bhagavad Gita.
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A Fun Bit of GF3 Trickery! in Geneforge Series
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Profile #7
Well, I've made quite a few script modifications to enable this party, but I've attempted to track down and list all of them. Try out these modifications (making backups of all previous script files, of course) and tell me if you have any difficulties.

The first modification is in the file "gf3itemschars.txt". This modification was made for the purpose of adjusting the color tones for two creatures. The relevant changes are shown below:
begindefinecreature 1;
cr_base_level = 25;
cr_graphic_coloradj = 256;
cr_default_strategy = 1;
cr_regen_rate = 6;

cr_abil_num 1 = 165;
cr_abil_level 1 = 3;
begindefinecreature 45;
import = 1;
cr_name = "Litalia";
cr_base_level = 40;
cr_graphic_coloradj = 513;

cr_abil_num 0 = 85;
cr_abil_num 1 = 166;

cr_abil_num 2 = 62;
cr_abil_level 2 = 1;
cr_abil_step_of_launch 2 = 8;
cr_abil_anim_in_reverse 2 = 1;
The next modification occurs in the file, "z2southenddlg.txt". It allows Litalia to join the party in South End. Litalia's name can then, of course, be changed to "Paul McCartney," for example.

begintalknode 27;
state = 23;
nextstate = -1;
condition = 1;
question = "I would like to join you!";
text1 = "_Oh really? You would side with me already? Then you are foolish, I am afraid. You know nothing of me except that I have slaughtered those around you. But you are young. As you travel, you will learn of me and the real reasons to join me._";
text2 = "_When you reach the next island, my agents will contact you._";
text3 = "She gives you one last inspection with her cold eyes. _Oh, and you can do what you want on this island. My mission here is done, but I will stay with you to assist in your endeavors.";
action = END_TALK;
code =
add_char_to_party(8);
break;
Next modification: "z17southmardlg.txt". This enables Master Hoge to join the party in the South Marsh. His name can subsequently be changed to "John Lennon."

begintalknode 20;
state = 13;
nextstate = -1;
condition = 1;
question = "I will try to meet with the rebels and at least see what they have to say. But the trip is bound to be hazardous, and I believe I will require your assistance.";
text1 = "Master Hoge nods. _That is a wise route, careful and open-minded. And therefore very unlike a Shaper._";
text2 = "_I think that you will find Lankan to be surprisingly convincing. And he can use your help. His rebels are at the northeast corner of the island._";
text3 = "_Now I will go. We will meet again. Unless you are killed, of course. Goodbye._ Master Hoge leaves, walking confidently through the swamps to the north.";
action = END_TALK;
code =
add_char_to_party(8);
break;
Final modification: "z18sanrudlg.txt". This modification allows Diwaniya to join the party in San Ru. He will reappear in his chambers when the party leaves the town and returns, so basically he is only being copied into the party. Once he has joined the party, his name can be changed to "Harrison," as "George Harrison" will not fit.

begintalknode 41;
state = 10;
nextstate = -1;
condition = get_flag(18,9) > 0 && get_flag(18,10) < 2;
question = "I have heard tell of a shaper known as Litalia. She is highly dangerous, and I may need your help to defeat her.";
text1 = "He listens with interest as you talk about Litalia and what you have learned. Then he nods.";
text2 = "_Considering what I have seen in the last few weeks, I would not be surprised if a rogue Shaper has been acting on this island. However, I have not seen any such Shaper, or heard reports of any sightings. I will travel with you, and attempt to fight the threat posed by this rogue shaper with all of my might._";
code =
add_char_to_party(10);
break;
That should do it for the script modifications. Just begin a new game, choose the pinkish shaper as your PC, name him "Ringo Starr," and go out and acquire the rest of your band! If you have any difficulties, just post here and I'll attempt to figure them out.

[ Friday, July 15, 2005 21:18: Message edited by: Stugri-La ]

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Stughalf

"Delusion arises from anger. The mind is bewildered by delusion. Reasoning is destroyed when the mind is bewildered. One falls down when reasoning is destroyed."- The Bhagavad Gita.
Posts: 1798 | Registered: Sunday, October 5 2003 07:00
Regrettable But in General
Guardian
Member # 3521
Profile #52
quote:
Originally written by Ash Lael:

True, you did say that you saw nothing wrong with Alec's statements, which would imply that you agreed with his assessment of Kel's actions as "shameful", but it's not explicit so I ignored it.
In truth, I have no strong personal opinion on Kel's actions in this case. His vote distribution was certainly curious, but not necessarily indicative of malevolence towards Alec or anyone else. Without more explicit evidence to suggest malicious intent on Kel's part, I feel that it would be rather precipitous on my part to pass judgement on his motives.

However, I did mean all of what I said in my previous statement. Alec came in third in the original primary voting, and was ousted from contention by only a few other candidates seemingly sharing an agenda. It's only natural that he would feel that an injustice has been done, and voice his feelings here. The man has formed a legitimate opinion based on the actions of another, as is his right.

The most important point that you and some of the others are missing here, Ash, is that Alec began this thread only to announce the withdrawal of his candidacy. Not once has he called for any actions to be taken as a result of the injustice he has perceived. I agree that he would have been out of line in proposing a repeat election or something of the kind, but he has made no such propositions.

Alec is guilty only of openly expressing his legitimate suspicions. As such, I find the enthusiastic abuse heaped upon his head by yourself and others to be thoroughly uncalled for and transparently mean-spirited. I suggest that we leave this issue be and allow Alec to leave here, if he so wishes, with the dignity he deserves.

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Stughalf

"Delusion arises from anger. The mind is bewildered by delusion. Reasoning is destroyed when the mind is bewildered. One falls down when reasoning is destroyed."- The Bhagavad Gita.
Posts: 1798 | Registered: Sunday, October 5 2003 07:00
Have you ever... in Blades of Avernum
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Member # 3521
Profile #19
1. No. I am thoroughly detached from my characters when I play. They are my pawns, nothing more.

2. No. I don't ever pick them up, because I always use a god party and never need to bother with alchemy.

3. No. My god party is always well-armed and equipped, so I rarely pick up anything at all.

4. No, I'm a remorseless cheater.

5. No, not with the character editor and HLPM around.

6. No, never thought of that.

7. No, as I don't need it.

8. No, I've never felt the slightest inclination to contact Vogel.

9. I suppose it says something about me that this is the only question I can truthfully answer "yes" to. :o I was just messing around, though, with no intention or hope of actually entering the right key.

[ Friday, July 15, 2005 05:29: Message edited by: Stugri-La ]

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Stughalf

"Delusion arises from anger. The mind is bewildered by delusion. Reasoning is destroyed when the mind is bewildered. One falls down when reasoning is destroyed."- The Bhagavad Gita.
Posts: 1798 | Registered: Sunday, October 5 2003 07:00
Which do you prefer? in Nethergate
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Member # 3521
Profile #11
Nethergate, easily. It's a wonderful game, and although it provides fewer playing hours than Avernum 1 does, it's still packed with enough fine storytelling and gameplay to lift it above the competition. It's also got the best dialogue system, in my opinion, of any SW game. Exile's system strikes me as overly difficult and tedious whereas Avernum's is considerably dumbed-down. Nethergate's keyword dialogue system strikes the perfect balance.

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Stughalf

"Delusion arises from anger. The mind is bewildered by delusion. Reasoning is destroyed when the mind is bewildered. One falls down when reasoning is destroyed."- The Bhagavad Gita.
Posts: 1798 | Registered: Sunday, October 5 2003 07:00
Just say no in Richard White Games
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Member # 3521
Profile #54
Aha! But you, Drakey, happen to have both an open mouth and modship responsibilities for this forum. Are you the one responsible for foisting Chromite upon all of us innocents?

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Stughalf

"Delusion arises from anger. The mind is bewildered by delusion. Reasoning is destroyed when the mind is bewildered. One falls down when reasoning is destroyed."- The Bhagavad Gita.
Posts: 1798 | Registered: Sunday, October 5 2003 07:00
Would you rather play Homeland or... in Richard White Games
Guardian
Member # 3521
Profile #41
quote:
Originally written by Icshi:

quote:
Originally written by Verelor:

that transforming pic is not THe Devourer. It is a Changeling. Check the manual for yourself and see.
That's not the Devourer? Well then, how about this guy?

IMAGE(http://www.dragonlore.com/Images/KalebFigit.gif)

I'm sure he would devour anything you give him! :P

If that slovenly canine happened to be replaced by a delightful little ferret, Homeland would immediately become one of my favorite games. It's unfortunate that Dragonlore insists on being dogmatic (pun intended) instead of making the tiny, semi-radical change that would result in at least one more registration for their game.

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Stughalf

"Delusion arises from anger. The mind is bewildered by delusion. Reasoning is destroyed when the mind is bewildered. One falls down when reasoning is destroyed."- The Bhagavad Gita.
Posts: 1798 | Registered: Sunday, October 5 2003 07:00
Regrettable But in General
Guardian
Member # 3521
Profile #39
quote:
Originally written by Frankie Vallium:

PS- Stug, get AIM. It's summer, so it's not like you have schoolwork tying your hands together or anything.
I've been taking a summer physics course while living at home, which is why I haven't really been online this summer. When I'm in Urbana I can get away with being on the boards and AIM nonstop, but at home my dad constantly pesters me for every hour not spent hitting the books. But I'll be done with the class on the 21st, so after that point I'll probably be online regularly for a while.

Alec, I don't know if this will help, but please, please don't leave. You're not unpopular here, and with the exception of a few spiteful types, I believe you are well-liked and respected. You managed third place in the primaries before vote reassignment, and certainly that's more than anyone who had truly lost all respect from the community would receive.

Don't let the words and actions of a few chaps with permanent grudges against you force you out of this community. We've already lost Djur and TGM; must we lose you too? This is a solemn plea, Alec, and I hope you'll take heed.

quote:
Originally written by Ash Lael:

I find it noteworthy that the two people who have been the most enthusiastic about defending your words are those who like you and hate Kel. I do not find it surprising, but I find it noteworthy.
I'm assuming that the "two people" you're referring to here are TM and myself. I'll concede that it certainly seems that TM dislikes Kel, but that doesn't apply to me. I don't dislike or hate Kel at all, and he knows this. I might at times take exception to his words and actions around here, but that certainly does not constitute hate. As far as the Blades politics that created this rift between Kel and TM in the first place, I have no opinion on any of it.

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Stughalf

"Delusion arises from anger. The mind is bewildered by delusion. Reasoning is destroyed when the mind is bewildered. One falls down when reasoning is destroyed."- The Bhagavad Gita.
Posts: 1798 | Registered: Sunday, October 5 2003 07:00
Favorite Beatles Songs in General
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Member # 3521
Profile #50
Simon & Garfunkel were more folksy than poppy, ADoS. Folk influences are most evident in the Beatles' sound circa '65. You recommendations were fairly good, ADoS, but I think a few more could be made. Good early Beatles folk songs include: "I'm A Loser," "I Don't Want To Spoil The Party," "You've Got To Hide Your Love Away," "I've Just Seen A Face," "Things We Said Today," "I'll Cry Instead," "I Call Your Name," "I'll Be Back," "A Hard Day's Night," "No Reply," "Tell Me What You See," and some others that aren't coming to me at the moment.

In terms of the later Beatles, ADoS covered much of note. However, I've got a few more folk-pop recommendations: "Girl," "Here Comes The Sun," "We Can Work It Out," "Wait," and "If I Needed Someone."

I'll post some recommendations as far as Michael Jackson and jazz go once I'm at my own computer and can go through the entire Beatles catalog.

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Stughalf

"Delusion arises from anger. The mind is bewildered by delusion. Reasoning is destroyed when the mind is bewildered. One falls down when reasoning is destroyed."- The Bhagavad Gita.
Posts: 1798 | Registered: Sunday, October 5 2003 07:00
The Election in General
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Member # 3521
Profile #37
I don't hold the shoddy ferret sketch against you, Alex. The new sketch is much more accurate, although I do have to admit that the original did have a sort of absurd charm that is sometimes hard to capture. The sketch describing the course of events in joining the boards isn't half bad, either.

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Stughalf

"Delusion arises from anger. The mind is bewildered by delusion. Reasoning is destroyed when the mind is bewildered. One falls down when reasoning is destroyed."- The Bhagavad Gita.
Posts: 1798 | Registered: Sunday, October 5 2003 07:00
Favorite web comic. in General
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Profile #14
AbT, and Djur's Stickyman thingy.

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Stughalf

"Delusion arises from anger. The mind is bewildered by delusion. Reasoning is destroyed when the mind is bewildered. One falls down when reasoning is destroyed."- The Bhagavad Gita.
Posts: 1798 | Registered: Sunday, October 5 2003 07:00
Regrettable But in General
Guardian
Member # 3521
Profile #15
He's not complaining. He's making a concession speech, and in the process explaining the circumstances which forced him to concede. I see nothing at all wrong with this.

Thank you, Alec, for your support, and much more importantly, your friendship. I really wish we both could have been in the final three, but as it didn't work out that way I am dedicated to representing the policies both of us advocate. I will adopt your impeachment policy as my own, and support & enrich will assuredly live on in my candidacy.

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Stughalf

"Delusion arises from anger. The mind is bewildered by delusion. Reasoning is destroyed when the mind is bewildered. One falls down when reasoning is destroyed."- The Bhagavad Gita.
Posts: 1798 | Registered: Sunday, October 5 2003 07:00
Official Election Final Round Voting in General
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Member # 3521
Profile #28
I believe I'll vote Stughalf.

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Stughalf

"Delusion arises from anger. The mind is bewildered by delusion. Reasoning is destroyed when the mind is bewildered. One falls down when reasoning is destroyed."- The Bhagavad Gita.
Posts: 1798 | Registered: Sunday, October 5 2003 07:00
The Election in General
Guardian
Member # 3521
Profile #8
Salmon?!

I'm afraid I do not comprehend.

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Stughalf

"Delusion arises from anger. The mind is bewildered by delusion. Reasoning is destroyed when the mind is bewildered. One falls down when reasoning is destroyed."- The Bhagavad Gita.
Posts: 1798 | Registered: Sunday, October 5 2003 07:00
Favorite Beatles Songs in General
Guardian
Member # 3521
Profile #47
I certainly do pride myself on being an everyman. Perhaps rather gifted for an ordinary chap, but I endeavor to be as unpretentious as any self-respecting ferret.

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Stughalf

"Delusion arises from anger. The mind is bewildered by delusion. Reasoning is destroyed when the mind is bewildered. One falls down when reasoning is destroyed."- The Bhagavad Gita.
Posts: 1798 | Registered: Sunday, October 5 2003 07:00
Lucien 'Thuryl' McMahon Is Naked in General
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Member # 3521
Profile #129
Hey, I've got a fan club too! And they've got T-shirts and everything. I'll put up a picture some time if I can manage to find one.

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Stughalf

"Delusion arises from anger. The mind is bewildered by delusion. Reasoning is destroyed when the mind is bewildered. One falls down when reasoning is destroyed."- The Bhagavad Gita.
Posts: 1798 | Registered: Sunday, October 5 2003 07:00
Election Primary Results/Vote Reassignment in General
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Member # 3521
Profile #110
quote:
Originally written by Drew:

[QBBy the by, I was in Oak Park a couple weeks ago. Quite lovely, really - I love the old apartment buildings and the overall pedestrian-friendliness.[/QB]
Sweet. Yeah, it's not a bad place. How long were you here? We could've met up if you had given me the heads-up, but that's cool.

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Stughalf

"Delusion arises from anger. The mind is bewildered by delusion. Reasoning is destroyed when the mind is bewildered. One falls down when reasoning is destroyed."- The Bhagavad Gita.
Posts: 1798 | Registered: Sunday, October 5 2003 07:00
Showering in General
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Member # 3521
Profile #11
I generally take a single shower a day, although I have been known to skip a day on the weekends from time to time. I can't remember the last time I skipped more than a day, as I simply can't stand the sensation of being filthy. I'm not quite as obsessive about showering as I am about hand washing, though; I wash my hands 25 times a day or so, on average. I hardly ever get sick, though, so perhaps it's a healthy addiction.

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Stughalf

"Delusion arises from anger. The mind is bewildered by delusion. Reasoning is destroyed when the mind is bewildered. One falls down when reasoning is destroyed."- The Bhagavad Gita.
Posts: 1798 | Registered: Sunday, October 5 2003 07:00
How many hours of sleep do you get per 24 hours, on average? in General
Guardian
Member # 3521
Profile #24
I generally get anywhere from five to seven hours of sleep on weeknights, depending on when I have to wake up for school or whatever. On weekends, I can usually manage nine or ten hours. More than ten hours of sleep gives me a woozy feeling that usually lasts the entire day. Just can't manage to shake it off. Less than five hours of sleep turns me into a bit of a goof for a while, and later a quiet, sullen chap waiting for a chance to sleep more.

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Stughalf

"Delusion arises from anger. The mind is bewildered by delusion. Reasoning is destroyed when the mind is bewildered. One falls down when reasoning is destroyed."- The Bhagavad Gita.
Posts: 1798 | Registered: Sunday, October 5 2003 07:00
Family Guy!!!! in General
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Member # 3521
Profile #40
AM, I am indeed making a suggestion. Far too much attention is paid on such programs to the mating processes of our fellow mammals, and little given to the goings-on of our avian neighbors. It would be eye-opening, I'm sure.

Alo, my knowledge regarding inter-ferret relations is indeed quite complex, although I'd hardly care to delve into that topic unless I was asked. I have described the ferret mating process in detail on these boards before, but I'd be more than willing to do so again.

As for Alec's insinuations, well, they hit a bit too close to home for me to do anything but ignore them entirely. :P

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Stughalf

"Delusion arises from anger. The mind is bewildered by delusion. Reasoning is destroyed when the mind is bewildered. One falls down when reasoning is destroyed."- The Bhagavad Gita.
Posts: 1798 | Registered: Sunday, October 5 2003 07:00
Favorite Beatles Songs in General
Guardian
Member # 3521
Profile #44
quote:
Originally written by Ash Lael:

quote:
Originally written by Stugri-La:

...I also haven't been exposed to any Bill Withers...
You have to be kidding. Is it even possible to somehow not hear "Lean on Me" at some point?

Yeah, I've heard that one many times, and I've even performed it once. I just wasn't aware of the identity of its composer.

Well, it seems as though this recommendation business has been hit-and-miss so far. This does expose a few weaknesses in my musical discernment; ADoS is quite right when he says my range of musical taste is rather small compared to that of some. I've delved heavily, almost obsessively into classic pop/rock, but I've never really bothered with the more heavy stuff from the period. In general I find hard rock and metal to be grating on my ears and more than a little jarring. "Helter Skelter" is one of my least favorite Beatles songs.

That said, Ash, I believe I blundered a bit in my recommendations for you. I didn't really search out the liveliest stuff for you, just the heaviest. I made the mistake of listing several slow-paced, grungy songs with a heavy feel to them. You say that you didn't listen to every song all the way through; that's fine, but did you make sure to listen to a decent portion of "I Want You (She's So Heavy)?" If you missed the "She's So Heavy" segment, you ought to listen to it again. It isn't too lively, but it's fairly heavy. Also, "Happiness Is A Warm Gun" is composed of several very different segments, and you might have missed one or more by only listening to part of the song.

Based on what you said you did like, though, I can make you another, shorter list of recommendations. Can't do it at present, as I'm not at my own computer, but perhaps I'll do it tonight.

ADoS- Just a minor quibble, but "Revolution" is actually a sped-up rewrite of "Revolution 1," although the single ended up being released first. Lennon wanted the other band members to make "Revolution 1" their next A-side, but they objected that is was too mellow to be a workable single. So he created a louder, faster-paced version, but right after he finished it, McCartney came up with "Hey Jude," a song that even Lennon liked so much that it became the A-side. "Revolution" became a B-side, but still became quite popular. Not surprisingly, I prefer "Revolution 1." I'm in the minority here, of course.

Also, ADoS, terms like "heavy" and "rock" are quite relative to their times. Most every heavier Beatles song was considered quite heavy for its time. Hell, Lennon even proudly pronounced "Ticket To Ride" as the first heavy metal song ever! Listening to it, that seems incomprehensible, but it made sense when you compared the song to most everything else being done at the time.

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Stughalf

"Delusion arises from anger. The mind is bewildered by delusion. Reasoning is destroyed when the mind is bewildered. One falls down when reasoning is destroyed."- The Bhagavad Gita.
Posts: 1798 | Registered: Sunday, October 5 2003 07:00
If You Had A Billion Dollars... in General
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Member # 3521
Profile #11
I'll be honest- I'd spend much of it on an extremely well-stocked harem. I think I'd also create a massive, cageless personal zoo, where I could observe the animals in their natural habitats without having to contend with screaming children underfoot at every turn.

I'd also buy some ferrets and build myself a personal castle designed in the Mogul style, probably in a remote area with a desert-like climate. I'd invite many friends to stay with me and sample the pleasures of the place, and we'd drink fine booze and have a great time. I'd put enough money in the bank to ensure that I'd never have to work again.

I'd donate any money left over to several reputed wildlife protection organizations.

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Stughalf

"Delusion arises from anger. The mind is bewildered by delusion. Reasoning is destroyed when the mind is bewildered. One falls down when reasoning is destroyed."- The Bhagavad Gita.
Posts: 1798 | Registered: Sunday, October 5 2003 07:00
Family Guy!!!! in General
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Profile #36
Looks as though someone's feathers are a bit ruffled!

Never fear, my dear, for I've searched out a fine spot on the arm of a noble oak tree. Join me there, where we shall build our marvelous nest twig by twig, and reside there with all our darling nestlings.

IMAGE(http://borntoexplore.org/trails/images/bird_nest_on_silent_waters_2002.jpg)
:P

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Stughalf

"Delusion arises from anger. The mind is bewildered by delusion. Reasoning is destroyed when the mind is bewildered. One falls down when reasoning is destroyed."- The Bhagavad Gita.
Posts: 1798 | Registered: Sunday, October 5 2003 07:00
Favorite Beatles Songs in General
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Profile #36
quote:
Originally written by Frankie Vallium:

Okay, Stuggie. I'll take you up on your offer...

Resolve the musical tastes of these bands and/or artists:

Ayu*, Bill Withers, Billy Joel, Bonnie Pink*, Boston, Chicago, Clapton, CSNY, DAI*, Doobie Bros, Eagles, ELO, EW&F, Gackt*, Hendrix, Hikki*, JAM Project*, Journey, Kansas, Morning Musume**, Shiina Yumiko*, Steveland Morris, See-Saw*, Supertramp, TM Revolution*, the Who

* is japanese
* includes ayaya-chan

Well, as you might have expected I can only do an incomplete job here. I haven't had the opportunity or inclination to listen to any J-pop, so all that stuff is out. I also haven't been exposed to any Bill Withers, Boston, ELO, Journey, or Steveland Morris. As for the rest, I'll do my best. I'm only going to list a few Beatles songs for each, though.

Billy Joel- Piano-based pop/rock, so there are quite a few options, mainly McCartney compositions. Try "You Never Give Me Your Money," the Golden Slumbers medley, "You Like Me Too Much," "Hey Jude," "For No One," "The Fool On The Hill," "Hello Goodbye," "Martha My Dear," "Sexy Sadie," "Honey Pie," "Hey Bulldog."

Chicago and EW&F- Horn-fortified rock. I'd recommend "Got To Get You Into My Life" (which EW&F covered), "Savoy Truffle," "Good Morning, Good Morning", "Lady Madonna" and "Magical Mystery Tour" (both of which you are aware).

Eric Clapton and Jimi Hendrix- Well, of course there's "While My Guitar Gently Weeps," which spotlights Clapton. Other than that, I'm assuming you're interested in acid rock that highlights the guitar. Recommendations: "It's All Too Much," "Day Tripper," "Taxman," "I'm Only Sleeping," "She Said She Said," "And Your Bird Can Sing," "I Want To Tell You," "Flying," "Revolution," "Don't Let Me Down," "I Want You (She's So Heavy)."

CSNY- These guys are great, probably my second-favorite band. Anything featuring lots of lush harmonies would be a good call. Recommendations: "I'll Be Back," "Here Comes The Sun," "Tell Me What You See," "Two Of Us," "Rain," "Here, There, And Everywhere," "Wait," "If I Needed Someone," "Getting Better," "She's Leaving Home," "Dear Prudence," "A Day In The Life," "I Will," "Long, Long, Long."

Doobie Brothers- I'm not too familiar with them, but they sound roots-rockish, so you'd probably be fine with most thing off of A Hard Day's Night and Help.

The Eagles- Country rock, although more popish as time went on. Most of the rockers I mentioned with Clapton and Hendrix would work all right, and for the more country-ish stuff the two albums I recommended for the Doobie Bros. would be fine. The best thing along these lines: "I'm A Loser."

Kansas- Heavy rock with progressive elements? Not too much prog-flavored stuff in the Beatles catalog, but "Happiness Is A Warm Gun" has a prog-like structure. As for the heavy rock part, check out my list of recommendations for Ash.

Supertramp- For the harmony-heavy stuff, check out my recommendations for CSNY. For the piano ballad-like stuff, see my recommendations for Billy Joel. As far as the general whimsy inherent in this band's music, it's quite clearly inspired by Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band.

The Who- Art rock at first, harder arena rock later on. In the art rock phase, this band was openly aping the psychedelic later Beatles albums. In their arena rock period, they developed a sound remniscent of several of the harder-edged tracks from the White Album.

That should do it. I got a little lazy towards the end, but it's quite a lengthy list of recommendations.

[ Tuesday, July 12, 2005 15:00: Message edited by: Stugri-La ]

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Stughalf

"Delusion arises from anger. The mind is bewildered by delusion. Reasoning is destroyed when the mind is bewildered. One falls down when reasoning is destroyed."- The Bhagavad Gita.
Posts: 1798 | Registered: Sunday, October 5 2003 07:00
Favorite Beatles Songs in General
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Member # 3521
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Ash, I believe I will pass a few recommendations your way. There are a few Beatles songs that are rather heavy, and I'll list those ones. As far as good lyrics go, pretty much any late-period Beatles song written by John Lennon is quite strong lyrically. He's known as one of the finest lyricists in pop music.

Well, here are my recommendations, in no particular order. You'll notice that most of them are off the White Album- the lads basically decided to stock side 3 with all of the hard-rocking tunes they could muster.

"I Want You (She's So Heavy)"- from Abbey Road

"Revolution"- single, B-side for "Hey Jude"

"Don't Let Me Down"- single, B-side for "Get Back"

"Dig A Pony"- from Let It Be

"I've Got A Feeling"- from Let It Be

"Blue Jay Way"- from Magical Mystery Tour

"Tomorrow Never Knows"- from Revolver

"Think For Yourself"- from Rubber Soul

"Happiness Is A Warm Gun"- from the White Album

"Birthday"- from the White Album

"Yer Blues"- from the White Album

"Everybody's Got Something To Hide Except For Me And My Monkey"- from the White Album

"Helter Skelter"- from the White Album (the heaviest one of all, as ADoS mentioned)

"Hey Bulldog"- from Yellow Submarine

"It's All Too Much"- from Yellow Submarine

That's all that I can come up with for now. If you get around to listening to some of those, tell me what you think. And the recommendation invitation is still open to all.

EDIT: Forgot about the second page. A second post to respond to TM is forthcoming...

[ Tuesday, July 12, 2005 13:53: Message edited by: Stugri-La ]

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