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THE GREAT DEBATE in General
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Fish obviously respond to stimuli. They wouldn't survive very well otherwise. The question is whether or not they detect the sensation of pain or just respond at some reflexive level.

—Alorael, who doesn't know enough about fish to guess. He doesn't even know how one would go about testing the way fish process sensations.
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A quest for information in General
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Noah didn't do a great job of saving the world. He saved two of every species and a few extra humans. That's a lot of deaths he didn't prevent. The heroic solution would have been to slay God and bring all the wicked people back to righteousness anyway.

The Bible and mythologies in general tend not to have much world saving. Epics have some saving, but it's usually on a smaller scale. Beowulf slays monsters to protect a kingdom or two, but he's not even protecting all of Denmark. The Greeks were too busy killing each other to save anyone but themselves.

I feel like there has to be something like the saving the world quest before Tolkien, but I can't think of an example. Maybe he was more revolutionary than he gets credit for?

—Alorael, who doesn't know enough about pre-Tolkien fantasy. From what he does know, though, there's nothing that seems like a good candidate for saviorhood.
Posts: 14579 | Registered: Saturday, December 1 2001 08:00
A1 - I made a fatal mistake :-( in The Avernum Trilogy
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I believe Motrax, the guards, and everyone else in the town will still be angry, however. Using the option to make hostile towns forgive you in the editor might fix that, but then every monster you've ever killed also comes back.

—Alorael, who would recomment just never returning to Motrax' lair unless you absolutely have to. Have you raided the trash piles to the west of Motrax yet?
Posts: 14579 | Registered: Saturday, December 1 2001 08:00
Benedictus XVI has a twin brother... in General
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I want 10,000 posts soon, but you don't see me reviving every topic that ever was, do you?

—Alorael, who might give that a try sometime. It would certainly be different and it would get lots of attention. It would also make him go out with a bang, or perhaps a blam-thud.
Posts: 14579 | Registered: Saturday, December 1 2001 08:00
Inner Gazak-Uss key parts in Geneforge Series
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Off it goes!

—Alorael, who hasn't done this in a while. He takes no responsibility for turbulence.
Posts: 14579 | Registered: Saturday, December 1 2001 08:00
Inner Gazak-Uss key parts in Geneforge 2
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Off it goes!

—Alorael, who hasn't done this in a while. He takes no responsibility for turbulence.
Posts: 14579 | Registered: Saturday, December 1 2001 08:00
Mac vs Windows in General
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No. This topic has a bad history.

—Alorael, who sees nothing but pain from another one of these. This time he can stop it quickly and preemptively, so he will.
Posts: 14579 | Registered: Saturday, December 1 2001 08:00
my grang-grandfather died in General
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I have obviously confused my Catholic and Protestant theologies. Oops.

—Alorael, who may go to Purgatory over this.
Posts: 14579 | Registered: Saturday, December 1 2001 08:00
my grang-grandfather died in General
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Even Catholics have abandoned Purgatory. You're now saved or damned with no middle ground.

—Alorael, who posted a much nastier response to Ben's post and then, upon reflection, deleted it. Being a mod allows one to maintain the illusion of civility!
Posts: 14579 | Registered: Saturday, December 1 2001 08:00
Departure in General
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Member # 335
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Please don't post these anymore. They can only cause flaming and stupidity. Believe me, everyone would be much more happy to have you without these polls.

If you want to leave, leave. If you don't want to leave, stop asking.

—Alorael, who will lock this thread as it deserves.
Posts: 14579 | Registered: Saturday, December 1 2001 08:00
Artsy peoples! in General
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This entire discussion has become inane. Furthermore, while no beliefs about the afterlife are any more demonstrably true than any others, some are less internally consistent or just plain more ridiculous than others.

—Alorael, who can understand Stug's unhappiness. Furry reincarnation shows all signs of being an adaptation of Hindu reincarnation, only it is, well, furry. If someone did that to your religion you might be a little upset as well.
Posts: 14579 | Registered: Saturday, December 1 2001 08:00
Member #1 in General
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The member that breaks the UBB's back will undoubtedly be part of the burst of new members after Avernum 1.445x10^39 is released.

—Alorael, who will point out that the UBB could be broke just by Americans joining. Not only is the numbe required well under the world's population, it's also only one fifth of the number of people with computers and internet access, which is a more relevant measurement.
Posts: 14579 | Registered: Saturday, December 1 2001 08:00
Member #1 in General
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Member # 335
Profile Homepage #10
www.ironycentral.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_profile;u=00000001]Click here to look up member #1.

Replace the 00000001 in the URL with 00000002 to look at member two, 00000335 to look up member 335, and so on.

—Alorael, who would like to know what happens when the hundred millionth member signs up. Does the UBB crash and burn?

[ Tuesday, April 26, 2005 17:55: Message edited by: Early Worm ]
Posts: 14579 | Registered: Saturday, December 1 2001 08:00
Artsy peoples! in General
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Imban definitely knows something you don't, but I don't see potty language from Gizmo or anyone else here.

—Alorael, who thinks he knows what Imban knows, and who believes he is also correct. Now you can interpret the data and solve the mystery!
Posts: 14579 | Registered: Saturday, December 1 2001 08:00
Avernum Online, or Daimonin? in General
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OS X is based on Unix, but a port isn't out of the question since Daimonin is open source. The trick is finding someone willing and able to do it and then buttering them up properly.

—Alorael, who would have more hope for a port if Daimonin seemed to have more soulless followers, and a Mac audience would mean more of those followers. It's a threshold problem.
Posts: 14579 | Registered: Saturday, December 1 2001 08:00
I can't download any of the game demo's!! in The Exile Trilogy
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It sounds to me like his problem is getting the file at all, not unzipping and running it.

Have you tried with another browser? It might be a Firefox problem.

—Alorael, who won't bother moving this to Tech Support now.
Posts: 14579 | Registered: Saturday, December 1 2001 08:00
Avernum 2 - question in The Avernum Trilogy
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Remember that you can enter a town or dungeon, kill a few monsters, leave, rest, and return. That's very helpful when you're low level and trying to clear some of the tougher areas.

—Alorael, who used that on sliths frequently. You'll find that you end up with too much loot to carry in one trip anyway, so you might as well go take what you have, change it into weightless cash, and refill your health and energy while doing so.
Posts: 14579 | Registered: Saturday, December 1 2001 08:00
Do you think there is a Hell? in General
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Not true, Dolphin. Since God doesn't have any corporeal form according to the latest in theology, the only image we can have is mental and spiritual. Even before knowledge of good and evil we were the only creatures to have the level of intelligence that we have, and we are and always have been the only animals to have spirituality and a link with God, as Ben points out. Or so goes the argument. Since the Bible doesn't address the issue, I don't see why animals aren't inherently in a state of grace because they are free from original sin and all ability to sin.

Ben, science can explain everything. There may be no way for us to ever gain the data neccessary to understand everything, but at some level everything makes sense (or doesn't make sense, but that can be shown too). That's admittedly hair-splitting, but I think it's a fair thing to point out.

—Alorael, who would like to point out that the science can (currently) explain miracles argument doesn't necessarily rest on atheism. It rests on the fact that all miracles that occur today aren't miracles at all. Shams are depressingly common, as are mistakes, as are events based on the power of mass suggestion, and so on and so forth. If God acts, he acts too subtly to be distinguished from luck.
Posts: 14579 | Registered: Saturday, December 1 2001 08:00
Avernum 2 - question in The Avernum Trilogy
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Don't pick fights with the Empire right away. If there are still quests left undone near Formello and Fort Draco, like clearing out the undead in the ruined fort that used to belong to the nephilim, do them. Then look for more minor quests in other cities. Mertis has a nice cave of undead to hack through. As long as you don't run headfirst into Empire forts, you should be able to find appropriately difficult areas.

—Alorael, who can't remember exactly what he did last time he came out of the vahnatai lands. He'll add that there are several quests to do among the vahnatai that you can and should do before or just after returning to Avernum proper.
Posts: 14579 | Registered: Saturday, December 1 2001 08:00
magic item attribute bonuses in The Avernum Trilogy
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It wasn't helpful to me at all. Distinguishing between equipment bonus and character skill would be useful, but Nethergate didn't do that either. I'm not even sure that any Nethergate equipment gives skill bonuses per se.

—Alorael, who could tell that the game in question was A3 by the description. Only A3 (and BoA, but it has its own forum) says "luck +5" rather than something less specific about increasing luck.
Posts: 14579 | Registered: Saturday, December 1 2001 08:00
Tower of Magi Demon in Exile I in The Exile Trilogy
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Yes, but that's hardly relevant to the topic and this topic has been dead for a month anyway. Necromancy is frowned upon here.

—Alorael, who hopes everyone will let this topic return to its final rest.
Posts: 14579 | Registered: Saturday, December 1 2001 08:00
magic item attribute bonuses in The Avernum Trilogy
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Member # 335
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A1 and A2 don't even make the exact bonus from the item clear. A3 tells you what the bonus is when you look at the item, but skill bonuses don't show up on character information. Reistances do.

—Alorael, who prefers A3 for that. He'd rather see only a character's inherent skills when looking at character information. He can figure out what to add in his head and still know what to train in.
Posts: 14579 | Registered: Saturday, December 1 2001 08:00
Una ballena bañandose con un pez esponja in General
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Adding an E to the beginning of words that start with S and an O or A to the end of any word that ends with a consonant in English is another good way to speak semi-intelligible pseudo-Spanish. With a few basic pronouns and such, you can sound like, well, someone who doesn't speak any Spanish but put some effort into it!

Ex: Yo no speako espanish muy wello porque yo no estudied it en eschool.

—Alorael, who is only half kidding. Broken Spanglish can be a surprisingly effective way of communicating, although basic knowledge of Spanish really, really helps.
Posts: 14579 | Registered: Saturday, December 1 2001 08:00
Do you think there is a Hell? in General
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Member # 335
Profile Homepage #322
Maybe it's for the best. That eight-year-old might have thrown a rock that through an unlikely chain of events killed another child who would have grown up into another Shotts.

—Alorael, who doesn't find Thuryl's beliefs surprising. The advocate of extreme post-natal abortion strikes again!
Posts: 14579 | Registered: Saturday, December 1 2001 08:00
You can take my "????" when you pry my cold, dead fingers off the "????" mouse! in General
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You can take a look at Jeff's CoC whenever you want and I encourage you to do so yet again, TM.

—Alorael, who will let you take his... no, he won't. He will never share anything, not even when he's dead!
Posts: 14579 | Registered: Saturday, December 1 2001 08:00

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