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Shaping-Improving Vestments in Geneforge Series
Nuke and Pave
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Profile Homepage #10
quote:
Originally written by Nick Ringer:

Theft, MagmaDragoon, is possible in real life. The fact that your party members can take stuff without being noticed is either
a) an inherent sleight of hand possessed by creations, Alwan, and Greta, or
b) cheating.
Since we can't Shape, Jeff gets to make up rules for it. So, as The Lurker articulates:
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Then why is it that Alwan's "slight of hand" doesn't work whenever you are nearby? :) And how can your fyora who can't carry a single item steal a whole shop full of weapons without the merchant notincing? And why can it do this only when your character isn't around.

Some game mechanics quirks can be reasonably explained away. Some are obvious bugs. The one with stealing by creatures falls into second category.

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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00
School of Hard Knocks in Geneforge Series
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Watchhill is a pretty tough area for a new player. Later Geneforge games had a more gentle introduction. For a shaper, my favorite strategy is a "deadweight shaper": invest all skill points into intelligence, make as many creatures as you can, and let them do all the work. You shaper doesn't need much Endurance, because he should never get hit.

Other than that, the only advice I can give you is to move carefully, engaging 1 enemy at a time and not approaching the spawner until you are ready for it. Also, keep a couple of backup saves, because if you accidentally wake up the spawner when you aren't ready (you'll see notes about spawner actions), you'll have to reload an earlier save.

[ Saturday, April 08, 2006 19:50: Message edited by: Zeviz ]

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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00
WooHoo! in General
Nuke and Pave
Member # 24
Profile Homepage #30
With apologies to Alex for stealing his idea of stick figure cartoons...

IMAGE(http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/9162/500roubles4oy.th.gif)

Explanation: Russia devalued its currency in late 90s, so the 500 rouble bill Tyranicus posted is worth about 2 cents.

[ Friday, April 07, 2006 15:30: Message edited by: Zeviz ]

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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00
wat is better? in General
Nuke and Pave
Member # 24
Profile Homepage #24
Corrected version is located in the quote below. (Corrections are marked by italics.) The problems were with grammar rather than spelling. If I've made any mistakes myself, I claim the "not a native speaker" defense. :)
quote:
Originally written by Archmagus Micael:

Llama, please do me a favour, and edit your first post to fix the spelling. I know that you didn't mean to do it, but it does annoy me/people.

This is what it should say:
"What is better?"
Or, more accurately:
"Which is better"

Besides, as well as pleasing me, it might cause the others to lay off a bit.

Magmadragon, you deserved this for your messed up corrections. What goes around, comes around, to use an ancient saying.

- Archmagus Micael

EDIT: It's irrelevant how Llama spells his name, because names should always be capitalized, and even if that wasn't the case, first word in a sentence always has to be capitalized.

EDIT2: Made my own post more grammatically correct.

[ Friday, April 07, 2006 11:22: Message edited by: Zeviz ]

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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00
wat is better? in General
Nuke and Pave
Member # 24
Profile Homepage #20
As for the answer to the poll, Geneforge 1 and 2 and Avernum 2 are about equally enjoyable when taken individually, but Avernum is better as a series, because all Avernum games are quite different, while if you've played one Geneforge game, you've played them all.

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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00
wat is better? in General
Nuke and Pave
Member # 24
Profile Homepage #16
Since we are playing the "find the grammatical problems" game, here is the next move. :)
quote:
Originally written by Dikiyoba:

quote:
FYT: Sorry if I have spoke anything wrong, I'm not a good speller.
FYT: Sorry if I have spelt anything wrong, I'm not a good speller.

FYT: Sorry if I have spelt anything incorrectly, as I'm not a good speller.

1. "Wrong" is an adjective, while "incorrectly" is an adverb. 2. Independent sentences shouldn't be joined together by a comma alone. You also need a preposition.

EDIT: My point 2 was wrong. In this case "Sorry if I have spelt anything incorrectly" is a subordinate clause, so that "as" actually introduced a new error. However, it allowed the game to continue, so it's all good. :)

[ Friday, April 07, 2006 10:46: Message edited by: Zeviz ]

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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00
Geneforging in General
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The problem with genetically modified humans is that some alterations could have negative consequencies that aren't obvious or take many years to be seen. We already have this problem with drugs (Viox scandal is the most recent example) and it would get even worse with genetic modifications whose effects aren't fully understood. What happens if a gene that seems to improve ability to quickly memorize large amount of data also increases risk of Alzeimers? Do you think any company will run a 50-year-long clinical trial to check for any potential problems over subject's lifetime?

This reasoning is of course irrelevant in case of incurable deseases like Multiple Sclerocis, where the patient will not even live 50 (or even 20) years unless he gets help now. However, alterations that simply improve memory, strength, reaction time, and so on, shouldn't happen until our understanding of human body is far more complete than it is today. Unfortunately, people will likely jump at these "miracle techniques" long before they are ready.

As for genetically modified food, I have no problems with it.

PS About the examples mentioned in original post, why would we want to make every man 6 inches taller? If everybody becomes 6 inches taller, it just increases the average and people who were short before will still remain shorter than average. Same thing with increasing strength or endurance. (Daily tasks of anybody who is likely to be able to afford genetic modification don't require much strength or endurance.)

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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00
I Depend On Them All in The Avernum Trilogy
Nuke and Pave
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Profile Homepage #1
Somebody (Drakey?) had beaten E3 with a no-magic singleton, so you don't really need all 4 characters. :)

As for specifics, when you visit the Anama, you'll see that Jeff intended the game to be winnable with no mages in your party. Removing priests as well would make things harder, but still doable if you rely on a lot of potions and scrolls. Most typical singleton is a fighter/magic user combo. Since I haven't done any of these crazy variants myself, that's about as much detail as I can give you.

EDIT: Since most magic effects can be obtained from scrolls and potions and since blessed and hasted warrior is one of the most efficient ways to kill anything, a no-magic party isn't as impossible as it sounds.

[ Thursday, April 06, 2006 19:09: Message edited by: Zeviz ]

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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00
What happens when you die? in General
Nuke and Pave
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Profile Homepage #8
quote:
Originally written by Kuranes-:

...So, once you die, what happens to your online identity and your data? Have you made any preparations/clauses in your will/lists of online accounts? I realize this is unfamiliar territory for a community whose average age is around 20, but some people plan ahead. I also knew a girl who was murdered a year ago at age 26. Some things happen unexpectedly...
I am assuming that for this demographic suicide is a lot more likely than an unexpected death and in that case all necessary preparations will have been made already.

As for the case of unexpected death, most online "assets" aren't worth worrying about. (Although I was amuzed to find out recently that some people are willing to pay for a low-numbered Spidweb account. :) ) Anybody who has valuable copyrighted materials, or businesses probably has them listed in his will. As for things like e-mail and forum accounts, why worry about them? If I don't want my mom going through my e-mails now, I wouldn't want her to do that after my death either.

[ Thursday, April 06, 2006 19:50: Message edited by: Zeviz ]

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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00
A Great Series, And . . . in The Avernum Trilogy
Nuke and Pave
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Profile Homepage #13
quote:
Originally written by Philthy:

Well, I suppose I am mostly referring to the storyline and plot of the first three. Will things like these be given away as I progress through 4? I already know in A4 that there used to be a dragon that was killed. Say, if he happens to exist in A3, and somehow the final encounter is you vs the army trying to kill him - I already know what happens.

If you get at what i'm trying to say.

If you have any intention of playing A3, stop reading these boards NOW. :)

I am quite serious about this, because it's impossible to avoid finding out the main villain of A3/E3 if you read enough threads here. (Including General and BoE subforums.) A4 will completely spoil A3's ending too. Since A3's plot depends so strongly on mystery, the game loses a lot once you know who the bad guy is.

This isn't the case with the other two Avernums, because it quickly becomes clear what your goals are and the following games simply assume that you've accomplished your goals. So the main argument against playing them out of order is that Jeff improved the engine with each game, so going back to A1 after A3 might be a bit painful.

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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00
Shen (spoiler) in Geneforge Series
Nuke and Pave
Member # 24
Profile Homepage #3
If you are trying to get into restricted part of the camp without angering the rebels, the only way to do it is to sneak in. Save often into different save slots and rush from building to building, leaving your pets in an allowed area and making sure the guards don't see you. The guards move along sertain paths, so if they catch you, just reload and wait for them to go by, hiding inside or behind a building. That area took a lot of reloading for me.

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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00
Shen (spoiler) in Geneforge Series
Nuke and Pave
Member # 24
Profile Homepage #1
If that's the cave I am thinking of, you have to go all the way through from stairs in bottom left of the map to stairs in the top right of the map. After going up those stairs, you'll find yourself in the opposide corner of the top map. The entrance to rebel camp is the north exit of the top map.

Or you could avoid worrying about the cave system and just fight your way through the top map if you are strong enough.

[ Tuesday, April 04, 2006 15:05: Message edited by: Zeviz ]

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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00
leaving items in Geneforge Series
Nuke and Pave
Member # 24
Profile Homepage #7
I assumed decorative items would be the first to disappear. I can double-check that save game this evening, if I still have it. It might even be that I really had 200 items stored there. (Although I don't think it could be that many.)

The main point of my post was to warn that if you aren't careful, items might start disappearning before you realize that you've dropped too many.

[ Tuesday, April 04, 2006 13:04: Message edited by: Zeviz ]

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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00
United Nations? in General
Nuke and Pave
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Profile Homepage #18
quote:
Originally written by thaet waes gode cyning:

...
Seriously, dude, Mongolia and Vatican City qualify, but France doesn't? Why not Pitcairn? I heard there were a few guys with internet there.

You really need to spend some time in a basic Geography course. So do I, apparently, because I didn't even know there was a country named "Lesotho".
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quote:
Originally written by Smugglers' Alliance, Chief of the:

I knew I would forget some, but I couldn't think of any others. Some of the choices were obviously meant as jokes however.
I doubt this poll was intended to have great scientific value. :)

[ Tuesday, April 04, 2006 12:50: Message edited by: Zeviz ]

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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00
OoC Thread for "An RP in the World of Avernum... *Reloaded*" in General
Nuke and Pave
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Profile Homepage #234
quote:
Originally written by Ephesos:

quote:
Originally written by radix malorum est cupiditas:

Actually, no. A character sheet should look very different. Although maybe we can make a new parallel topic posting people's character sheets with one link in each post connecting a person's summary with his character sheet and vice versa.
Look, I already told you. We've done summaries. They have character lists. They have links to each and every post we've made.

We don't need to do it all again. Just post in the RP Summaries thread.

And for the record, invisibility is frowned upon. "Stealth powder" is subject to this rule as well.

What I was suggesting was just for Hunterking to aviod the problem he'd been having with making massive armies materialize out of thin air, rather than an additional thread for everybody. A summary would be good too, but I am sugesting much higher level of detail for him. (Having a public list saying "Hunters have 20 battle mages (Fireball, Haste, etc.) and 1 wizard (Firestorm, Slow Group, etc.)" would be a good protection from him saying "our necromancers just created 500 undead.")

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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00
leaving items in Geneforge Series
Nuke and Pave
Member # 24
Profile Homepage #4
A warning about the item limit: once you hit it, your items will start disappearing. And I am pretty sure the limit is less than 200. In Gf3, I had a storage yard near Dhonal Keep and once I started making a third pile of items, I noticed that some things I've dropped in the first pile were gone. (By "pile" I mean standing at 1 place and dropping items until there is no more room.)

Maybe it was fourth, rather than 3rd pile. However, it was definitely less than 200 items, because I also had large storage piles in several other areas and I doubt I've accumulated that much loot during the course of half a game.

[ Tuesday, April 04, 2006 08:43: Message edited by: Zeviz ]

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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00
OoC Thread for "An RP in the World of Avernum... *Reloaded*" in General
Nuke and Pave
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Profile Homepage #228
Goldenking, it might be helpful for you to make a "character sheet" for your faction and post it here. A "character sheet" in a regular RP is like a combination of inventory screen and stats screen from Avernum games. It describes what your character can do, what items he has, what spells he knows, etc.

In this case, the character sheet for your faction would include: how many and what kinds of troops it has, how many mages it has and what spells they can cast, what natural resources it has access to, how large its navy is, if any, etc.

This will be the complete list of what you have and, just like in any other game, you will not be able to add anything without a lot of (real life) time. (For example, if you, like Infernal, keep talking about your magical research in every post, after about a month of real life time you'll be able to say that your researchers learned a new spell.)

Making a list like this would help a lot in avoiding conflict with other players, because they'll get all objections out of the way before you even begin playing your "reformed" faction.

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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00
The Ultimate Favourite Game Poll v. 2.00 in General
Nuke and Pave
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Profile Homepage #27
Let's keep this on page 1 to avoid weekly re-posts of similar questions.

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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00
Best Spiderweb game in General
Nuke and Pave
Member # 24
Profile Homepage #10
I also voted for A2 on the poll, but would recommend BoE for the volume of quality scenarios. The amount of fun gameplay you'll get from it will be greater than from any other Spidweb game. (BoA doesn't have nearly as many scenarios made.)

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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00
United Nations? in General
Nuke and Pave
Member # 24
Profile Homepage #7
quote:
Originally written by Smugglers' Alliance, Chief of the:

I knew I would forget some, but I couldn't think of any others. Some of the choices were obviously meant as jokes however.
If you are seriously interested in geographical distribution, you could have added options "other European countries", "other Asian countries", etc. Although putting France in the same option as outher space is pretty funny.

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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00
I've made a script / story in General
Nuke and Pave
Member # 24
Profile Homepage #502
quote:
Originally written by Dikiyoba:

The script is now finished. Read and then discuss. You may list your favorite line, your reaction to the latest scene, things that could be done to improve the script, or suggest a more preferable way to die. Go.

Dikiyoba.

A fitting conclusion. The fact that we knew that everybody would die removed most of suspense from final battle, but that was probably unavoidable. Overall, it was a pretty fun, and at times very funny, script.

quote:
Originally written by Dintiradan:

By Zephyr Tempest:
quote:
Anyway...will there be some cheesy plot device that brings everyone back to life for a sequel?
There had better be. The Evil Overlord always inexplicably returns in a sequel.
...

You meant something like this?

A dark figure walks through the piles of bodies littering General forum. In his hands is a small potion of what looks like liquid light.

Dintiradan: It’s good that I had a clone of myself made before these problems started. And I even have some Balm of Life to get my Legion of Terror started again. A good Evil Overlord always comes back. MUAHAHAHA

Seeing the body of Zephyr Tempest, Dintiradan bends down.

Dintiradan: A mage... He would probably make a good underling. Let’s see how this works.

Dintiradan pours some Balm of Life onto Zephyr Tempest’s well-preserved body and the entire body begins to glow with the same light as the bottle. Soon the body begins to move, opens its eyes and gets up.

Zephyr Tempest: What happened? Where is the Ur-Noob? Why is everybody dead?

Dintiradan: It doesn’t matter. The main thing is that you are the first member of my new Legion of Terror.

Dintiradan2: You mean MY new legion of terror.

Dintiradan: Who are you? Another clone? How many more are out there?

Dintiradan2: You don’t have to worry about others. I’ve destroyed the cloning machinery and now I just have to get rid of you to remain the only Evil Overlord in the world.

Dintiradan2 fires Ultimate Weapon of Doom at Dintiradan, instantly evaporating him. The bottle with Balm of Life falls to the ground and shatters, with its contents disappearing in a flash of light the moment magical container is broken.

Zephyr Tempest: Balm of Life! You’ve destroyed it! I will never let your evil take over the world.

Zephyr Tempest casts an Ice Bolt, hitting Ultimate Weapon of Doom. Resulting explosion kills both Dintiradan2 and Zephyr Tempest himself.


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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00
Skill at Gaming in General
Nuke and Pave
Member # 24
Profile Homepage #10
quote:
Originally written by Guardian of Eternity:

... What do you all think accounts for skill at games like Spiderweb's?
In addition to what people said about amount of time spent, there are also basic skills that are required to be good at various kinds of games.

Strategy games are essentially optimization problems. You have to allocate limited resources in a way that gets you closest to your goal. So to do well in them you need to develop your logical thinking.

In RPGs, there is also some optimization involved, but there is a lot more puzzle-solving. (What creative combination of spells should I use to defeat this group of enemies?)

In FPS and other real-time games there might be some optimisation or puzzle-soving, depending on the game, but the main element is how fast your reflexes are.

[ Monday, April 03, 2006 12:04: Message edited by: Zeviz ]

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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00
The Abominable Photo Thread IV: A New Hope in General
Nuke and Pave
Member # 24
Profile Homepage #45
Could Dikiyoba's pictures be a [slightly late] April Fools joke?

If he/she/it is female, the avoidance of 3rd person pronouns in self-references would make sence. (Similar to Alorael's insistence on not revealing his age several years ago.) Some other things would also fit (for example, link to daily kitten and phrase "tastefully spamming").

I guess it does make sence the more I think about it, so if this isn't a joke, the only question is, why didn't you keep the ambiguity going even longer, to see how long it would take people to catch on?

[ Monday, April 03, 2006 11:47: Message edited by: Zeviz ]

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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00
Just because we all love census topics in General
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What is the weirdest thing you've ever seen? There were these chatlogs on shadowvale.net...
What is the weirdest thing you've done? You mean besides posting here?
What is the most humiliating thing you have ever done for money? Who needs to do stuff for money when you have a computer with a scanner and a color printer?
What is the most humiliating thing you would ever do for money? I am willing to entertain any proposal as long as you deliver it by coming alone to a dark alley with a suitcase full of unmarked 20$ bills.
If you could travel back time, what historical event would you like to witness “live” and why? Creation of atomic bomb, so I could steal it. MUAHAHAHAHA
If someone made a movie about your life, what would it be called? I could tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.
If you were a meal how would you describe yourself? Cannibalism? :eek:
Have you ever gone a whole day without wearing underwear? What's "underwear"?
What is the stupidest thing you’ve ever bought? I comprehend which mine recent group of brain implants is functioning not specification according to.
If you had to kill a SW member, who would it be and why?You'll find out soon enough MUAHAHAHAHA
If you had to pick between TM or Alec, who would you pick? and WHY?(You can't ignore the question, you can't answer neither, and NO it's not for killing) TM. Fried tentacles... mmmmm... Almost as good as Deliscious Vlish.

[ Monday, April 03, 2006 11:27: Message edited by: Zeviz ]

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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00
Classic RPG Heritage Poll in General
Nuke and Pave
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Profile Homepage #28
Which of these games would still be fun to play today? For example, Master of Orion is still the standard by which space strategy games are measured and Master of Magic is also quite fun. Are there similarly appealing games among old RPGs?

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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00

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