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What music (if any) are you listening to... in General
Shaper
Member # 22
Profile #830
Seven Nation Army, White Stripes.

This post is basically to test out my sig. And to admire Khoth's.

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KazeArctica: "Imagine...wangs everywhere...and tentacles. Nothing but wangs and tentacles! And no pants!"
Posts: 2862 | Registered: Tuesday, October 2 2001 07:00
A little thought experiment in General
Shaper
Member # 22
Profile #3
Do tentacles make a great deal of difference to your decision, Arctic?

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KazeArctica: "Imagine...wangs everywhere...and tentacles. Nothing but wangs and tentacles! And no pants!"
Posts: 2862 | Registered: Tuesday, October 2 2001 07:00
A little thought experiment in General
Shaper
Member # 22
Profile #1
I take only Box B.

Since there is no reason to presume that the alien will ever get it wrong, what is the extra thousand going to get me that I could not get from a bank with a good rate of interest?

Also, if this alien keeps on dishing out £1 million to thousands of people, inflation's gonna make that thousand seem even more meagre.

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KazeArctica: "Imagine...wangs everywhere...and tentacles. Nothing but wangs and tentacles! And no pants!"
Posts: 2862 | Registered: Tuesday, October 2 2001 07:00
What music (if any) are you listening to... in General
Shaper
Member # 22
Profile #827
This Protector, White Stripes.

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KazeArctica: "Imagine...wangs everywhere...and tentacles. Nothing but wangs and tentacles! And no pants!"
Posts: 2862 | Registered: Tuesday, October 2 2001 07:00
Nethergate? in General
Shaper
Member # 22
Profile #7
Nethergate, whatever else it may be, cannot be described as historically accurate. If you believe that the Sidhe wandered around with Celts and Romans, well....

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KazeArctica: "Imagine...wangs everywhere...and tentacles. Nothing but wangs and tentacles! And no pants!"
Posts: 2862 | Registered: Tuesday, October 2 2001 07:00
What music (if any) are you listening to... in General
Shaper
Member # 22
Profile #821
Queens of the Stone Age - No One Knows
The Who - The Seeker

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KazeArctica: "Imagine...wangs everywhere...and tentacles. Nothing but wangs and tentacles! And no pants!"
Posts: 2862 | Registered: Tuesday, October 2 2001 07:00
No Cameras? in General
Shaper
Member # 22
Profile #7
I don't know whether Jackson did it or not, but I stand by the principal of innocent until proven guilty. I have yet to see any evidence that he's done anything whatsoever.

However, I do find his appearance and his music disturbing and terrible (respectively).

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KazeArctica: "Imagine...wangs everywhere...and tentacles. Nothing but wangs and tentacles! And no pants!"
Posts: 2862 | Registered: Tuesday, October 2 2001 07:00
The fourth scenario. in Blades of Avernum
Shaper
Member # 22
Profile #36
*cough* Echoes beta.
Posts: 2862 | Registered: Tuesday, October 2 2001 07:00
What else do you play? in General
Shaper
Member # 22
Profile #39
I used to play a lot of chess and got very good at it for a time, but I've ceased playing it much recently. The only time I play other board games is Christmas time.

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KazeArctica: "Imagine...wangs everywhere...and tentacles. Nothing but wangs and tentacles! And no pants!"
Posts: 2862 | Registered: Tuesday, October 2 2001 07:00
Free Will in General
Shaper
Member # 22
Profile #52
I agree with Thuryl for the most part - however, I think that the free will of the individual and the free will of the society, are two very very different things.

While (and let's assume for the moment that individual's will is existant) the will of an individual is thoroughly unpredictable, when you are dealing with millions, or billions of people, the progress of society is depressingly predictable. For instance, all societies persecute one minority or another - blacks in America, Asians and asylum seekers in Britain, North African Arabs in France, Palestinians in Israel and (in the past) Jews in Germany. The responses of the vast majority of society are predictable in these ways, the minority is generally persecuted.

On the subject of free will of the individual, from what I can gather, the destruction of classical physics began around 1900 - the idea that if you have the right set of values about a thrown ball, you can predict where it will land.

This came about when a scientist (his name escapes me) began to study the problem of mirrors. Even the best mirror will only reflect 95% of light, the rest will pass through. The problem occured in that, according to classical physics, one out of twenty photons was "picked" from the beginning to pass through the mirror.

However, the scientist found that this wasn't how it happened - he discovered that all of the photons had a 95% chance of passing through, giving them an innate unpredictability that turned classical physics on its head.

All this goes some way to prove that the idea of being able to predict everything is not a valid one and so gives more hope to the existance of free will (something I'm becoming more and more convinced about).

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KazeArctica: "Imagine...wangs everywhere...and tentacles. Nothing but wangs and tentacles! And no pants!"
Posts: 2862 | Registered: Tuesday, October 2 2001 07:00
Free Will in General
Shaper
Member # 22
Profile #46
FZ: The article looks fairly interesting; unfortunately, I haven't the time to look at it in detail. From the technical terms used, I guess I'd have to brush up somewhat on my quantum mechanics (my knowledge doesn't extend much beyond whatever tidbits New Scientist provides, as well as a few papers).

On the subject of many worlds: I'd forgotten the necessity (or seeming necessity) for it to have every possible outcome for it to be a working model for quantum mechanics.

I'm also fairly intrigued by chaos theory. Looks like it's going to be a night of science for me.

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KazeArctica: "Imagine...wangs everywhere...and tentacles. Nothing but wangs and tentacles! And no pants!"
Posts: 2862 | Registered: Tuesday, October 2 2001 07:00
What else do you play? in General
Shaper
Member # 22
Profile #13
I'm playing quite a bit of Diablo II and Age of Empires II at the moment. I also play quite a bit of Warcraft III.

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KazeArctica: "Imagine...wangs everywhere...and tentacles. Nothing but wangs and tentacles! And no pants!"
Posts: 2862 | Registered: Tuesday, October 2 2001 07:00
Which RPG should I try? in General
Shaper
Member # 22
Profile #1
The Exile/Avernum (Avernum is a remake of Exile) series are far more story oriented.

However, without a doubt Spiderweb's best product to date is Blades of Exile (Blades of Avernum will be with us shortly). The three scenarios that come with Blades are fairly average and uninteresting, but the real interest comes from the scenario editor shipped with it, which allows you to play literally hundreds of third party scenarios, or make your own.

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KazeArctica: "Imagine...wangs everywhere...and tentacles. Nothing but wangs and tentacles! And no pants!"
Posts: 2862 | Registered: Tuesday, October 2 2001 07:00
So, who does the next RP belong to? in General
Shaper
Member # 22
Profile #31
Hmm. Interesting use of spelling there, Alorael. Point taken.

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KazeArctica: "Imagine...wangs everywhere...and tentacles. Nothing but wangs and tentacles! And no pants!"
Posts: 2862 | Registered: Tuesday, October 2 2001 07:00
My opinion about SW games... in General
Shaper
Member # 22
Profile #4
Summoning really isn't the way you should play BoE...

Yes, there are limitations with BoE. Yes the graphics are dated. But the sheer quality of some of the scenarios out there (Falling Stars, At the Gallows, Shadow of a Stranger, Quintessence to name a few) more then makes up for this.

If you're in it for graphics, you've come to the wrong place. Spiderweb has only one programmer and 2 other employees. It is not a high budget place.

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KazeArctica: "Imagine...wangs everywhere...and tentacles. Nothing but wangs and tentacles! And no pants!"
Posts: 2862 | Registered: Tuesday, October 2 2001 07:00
Free Will in General
Shaper
Member # 22
Profile #42
I've never seen conclusive proof that just because there *are* parallel universes, doesn't mean that everything that can possibly happen does happen. I've always assumed that part of the theory was jumped upon by science fiction writers.

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KazeArctica: "Imagine...wangs everywhere...and tentacles. Nothing but wangs and tentacles! And no pants!"
Posts: 2862 | Registered: Tuesday, October 2 2001 07:00
So, who does the next RP belong to? in General
Shaper
Member # 22
Profile #24
STD's the same age as me. I have a degree of patience with Zephyr, because he's basically not a bad guy. I have little patience with STD because I see no real progression in his behaviour.

[ Monday, January 12, 2004 11:57: Message edited by: Morgan ]

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KazeArctica: "Imagine...wangs everywhere...and tentacles. Nothing but wangs and tentacles! And no pants!"
Posts: 2862 | Registered: Tuesday, October 2 2001 07:00
So, who does the next RP belong to? in General
Shaper
Member # 22
Profile #20
In a negative way, I'd guess, since your name stands for Sexually Transmitted Disaese.

And you know what, STD? Screw you. I guess I am the guy who always puts you down, because to me, you are the kind of person that pulls the Spiderweb community down. You are the kind of person that makes the Polaris and Desperance boards a far superior place to Spiderweb (if slower in traffic).

I believe an RP made by you would be a disaster. A failure. I don't say this out of personal dislike for you (though I do), but because I have had experiences of RPs such as "Zombie Attacks" and "Greywraith Clan" and I *know* this is exactly what you would produce.

There are other, far more talented RPers out there. Look at Drakey, Alec and all the Monster Arena crowd. They know how to make a good RP, and, I suspect, you don't. Call it a hunch.

If you had AIM I'd be *far* sterner, but the conclusion would be much the same. You are the receiver.

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KazeArctica: "Imagine...wangs everywhere...and tentacles. Nothing but wangs and tentacles! And no pants!"
Posts: 2862 | Registered: Tuesday, October 2 2001 07:00
Free Will in General
Shaper
Member # 22
Profile #34
A fairly simplistic argument, I'm afraid. It could simply be a cocktail of chemical reactions in our brains causing us to have discussions about the nature of free will. Our consciousness could simply be a byproduct of these chemicals.

I choose not to take this view, mainly because I fail to see why we would do certain things that directly contradict evolution. However, I'm not entirely convinced of the existance of free will (though I want to), but I don't think looking at it from a chemical point of view provides conclusive proof.

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KazeArctica: "Imagine...wangs everywhere...and tentacles. Nothing but wangs and tentacles! And no pants!"
Posts: 2862 | Registered: Tuesday, October 2 2001 07:00
Free Will in General
Shaper
Member # 22
Profile #31
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I like the nice, simple outlook on the universe where physical laws have complete exactitude and there is no uncertainty. If you are given the equations and properties for a universe, you can predict exactly what will happen in the future, and it will always happen that way no matter how many times you compute it. I don't believe in parallel universes where you made a different choice or something like that.
Unfortunately, the universe just doesn't work like that (to the best of our knowledge). Even if there is a kind of order to quantum uncertainty and radioactivity, then it is so complex it might as well be chaotic.

As for parallel universes, I believe quantum is going some way to proving that they may exist.

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And it's pointless at so many other levels as well. Why waste your life thinking about whether or not everything is predetermined? If it is predetermined, then live with it cause you have to anyway. If not, well, there is still no use in doing anything about it.

Because somehow, it matters to the human ego somewhat. And it's an interesting point of discussion.

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KazeArctica: "Imagine...wangs everywhere...and tentacles. Nothing but wangs and tentacles! And no pants!"
Posts: 2862 | Registered: Tuesday, October 2 2001 07:00
So, who does the next RP belong to? in General
Shaper
Member # 22
Profile #13
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Reserve a place at the RP waiting list for me, please.

No.

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KazeArctica: "Imagine...wangs everywhere...and tentacles. Nothing but wangs and tentacles! And no pants!"
Posts: 2862 | Registered: Tuesday, October 2 2001 07:00
Free Will in General
Shaper
Member # 22
Profile #28
I can just about get my head around those snippets, but without knowing about the Penrose-Hameroff model, or who Tegmark is, they still fail to make much sense.

As regards to the weather system, I think it's very easy to label something as chaotic simply when we do not know all the laws of physics that are involved, nor how they affect each other. It may just be that the weather system acheives a level of complexity that today's science cannot cope with. I've never been a great fan of the butterfly theory - from my understanding, you'd need a very controlled scenario for that to work.

Again, I'm no meteorologist, so I have only a working knowledge of how it all works (it doesn't extend much beyond the water cycle, a grasp of how pressures affect everything, and a basic understanding of chaos).

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Then again, if we didn't have free will would that make any perceptible difference?

It depends. On an individual scale, free will *should* make a difference to our brains. However, if you look at mob mentality, all free will generally goes out of the window, as most people become generally mindless to the mob. It seems that if free will exists, it only exists on the level in which we interact with each other.

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KazeArctica: "Imagine...wangs everywhere...and tentacles. Nothing but wangs and tentacles! And no pants!"
Posts: 2862 | Registered: Tuesday, October 2 2001 07:00
Free Will in General
Shaper
Member # 22
Profile #24
Zeviz: I don't think that having randomness in the universe *proves* that we have free will. I do, however, think that if you can prove that the rigid rules of the universe that science has, and will, come up with do not apply to certain aspects of it then you become one step closer to proving that free will exists.

FZ: Lysenko is correct. Quantum uncertainty only exists on a very small scale. As soon as you work with bigger things, uncertainty disappears and is generally replaced with common sense (balls thrown to the left will always land to the left).

That said, I'm no scientist, so I don't know whether quantum uncertainty pertains to the free will of our minds. I just see it as an example that the physical laws are not absolute and all-knowing - thus creating a place where free will can come to exist.

That's not to say that we have complete free will. We don't - there's some things we have little or no control over, such as our sub-conscious mind and our personalities (it is nigh on impossible for an introvert to become extroverted).

[ Saturday, January 10, 2004 11:09: Message edited by: Morgan ]

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KazeArctica: "Imagine...wangs everywhere...and tentacles. Nothing but wangs and tentacles! And no pants!"
Posts: 2862 | Registered: Tuesday, October 2 2001 07:00
So, who does the next RP belong to? in General
Shaper
Member # 22
Profile #8
Has anyone else noticed that the quality of the boards has gone up vastly since Imby culled the RPs? I think they could quite possibly could bring out the worst of people in these boards.

That, or I've got more tolerant of idiots in the past few weeks (and how likely is that?).

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KazeArctica: "Imagine...wangs everywhere...and tentacles. Nothing but wangs and tentacles! And no pants!"
Posts: 2862 | Registered: Tuesday, October 2 2001 07:00
Free Will in General
Shaper
Member # 22
Profile #15
*withdraws argument*

However, if there *is* any way that true randomness exists in the universe, in a way we can observe, I'd maintain that the human brain is not predictable.

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KazeArctica: "Imagine...wangs everywhere...and tentacles. Nothing but wangs and tentacles! And no pants!"
Posts: 2862 | Registered: Tuesday, October 2 2001 07:00

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