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EDIT: Thuryl - does Australia still defer loan repayments if you're poor? And is education there still (relatively) cheap (like AU$2000/year or something)? Oh, and is summer break up for you yet? :P

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Originally written by Dolphin:

The newbie questions would be avoided for the most part but posting the information on hiding, adding, and removing avatars at the top of the page.

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Originally written by bjlhct2:

Item: Possessed Rapier: 6-25 dmg + 1-5/lvl. +1 Melee Weapons, +1 Assassination, +1 Anatomy, +1 Parry, +1 Riposte.

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I'm not arguing that formal education is not a path to employment and success. It's the only way a lot of people are aware of, and it's probably the most common route. I'm just saying that (particularly with skilled labour) it's a very inefficient way to go about things. If I wanted to get a job as a restaurant manager, the last place I'd go is to TAFE or Uni.

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Intelligence does change over time. It may increase, decrease, or waver around a central point, but it does change. Not for everyone, not all the time, not over small periods of time, but for a sizable number of people over long periods of time, it does change.

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Also, my IQ scores have varied over a 50-point range, and I'm not the only one. That's why I'm saying they are of questionable validity.

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Thuryl: you're basically describing subject tests.

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I have mixed feelings about subject tests, because while they do have the advantage of focusing on topics that are actually taught in school, they also show more bias along ethnic, gender, and income lines than general intelligence tests.

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Ash: I feel that there should be certain things that are taught in school. Reading seems like a big one. Basic arithmetic. Some algebra.

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But I do agree that the overwhelming majority of what is done in schools through the end of high school is garbage for most people. Schools very badly need to change.

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Originally written by Drakefyre:

The SAT is used to determine how well graduating seniors compare to other graduating seniors, so the colleges have a uniform benchmark to compare prospective students. Grades and teacher recommendations mean different things in different high schools, and someone with a B average in a great school and someone with an A+ in a poor school will get vastly different scores on the SAT.

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Originally posted by Kelandon:
His dream was a project called the Census of Abilities that would test all Americans twice during their high-school years — not just on what the SAT measured — but on every other attribute as well. He wanted standardized tests for personality type, creativity, practical judgment, persistence, sense of humor, and even marital compatibility."

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Originally posted by Dolphin:
She never looked very intelligent on paper due to her lacking vision. That was my comment about the IQ test earlier. If you spoke to her for five minutes she was clearly a child with a lot of potential.

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