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New Abortion Laws in General
Thuryl
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 written Sunday, March 27 2005 13:50 Profile Homepage #185
People follow moral prescriptions only to the extent that it's easy for them to do so. We generally don't kill adults mainly because it isn't often that we'd gain an overall benefit from doing so. As soon as morality becomes hard, the religious and non-religious alike abandon moral behaviour in droves, which shows just what a shaky foundation the very idea of morality is built on.

Given that, I prefer to take ethical positions that lead to interesting arguments, rather than ones approved of by the majority of people; popular morality is only popular because it's convenient.

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New Abortion Laws in General
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 written Sunday, March 27 2005 13:45 Profile Homepage #183
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About not being significant, it's relative to the costs of abortion, not only in $$$ but in priceless human lives.
Are human lives priceless? The life of a complete stranger isn't worth much to me at all. How much would you pay to save a life? How much *are* you paying to save lives?

Virtually everyone who says that the lives of people they don't know are of value is a hypocrite, because they themselves don't really care about those lives. If you did, you'd spend all your time and money on charitable work instead of sitting around on the internet in fruitless debate.

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 written Sunday, March 27 2005 13:39 Profile Homepage #180
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3: Alec raises an interesting point regarding legality and morality. I would like to know what he thinks of the outlawing of slavery in the US. It was very damaging to the economy of the South, and plunged the nation into civil war. Does he think Lincoln made a mistake?
Keep in mind that slavery was outlawed for political reasons, not moral reasons. Lincoln is on record as having said that if keeping slavery legal would have kept the United States together, that's what he would have done. The North wanted slavery to go just as much as the South wanted it to remain; to prevent one or the other from seceding, a civil war would have been necessary regardless of whether slavery was abolished or not.

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New Abortion Laws in General
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 written Sunday, March 27 2005 13:27 Profile Homepage #178
Not until you explain to me why you apparently think it's always wrong to kill people.

Anyway, I'm not sure I want to debate with someone who's so out of touch with reality as to say that the costs of enforcing laws "aren't significant". Every criminal case that goes to court costs many thousands of dollars.

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 written Sunday, March 27 2005 13:26 Profile Homepage #33
The SW mailing list? Yes. I think that's still operative, actually.

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New Abortion Laws in General
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 written Sunday, March 27 2005 13:23 Profile Homepage #175
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But that's what we're debating here, isn't it? Pluse, in many countries (such as mine), it's murder.
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I live in a country where abortion is legal
Hmm. I wonder which one is the lie.

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Beta Call for The Darkness in Blades of Avernum
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 written Sunday, March 27 2005 12:59 Profile Homepage #30
I thought the pale aura-effect around Putidus looked kinda neat, actually.

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Riddles in General
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 written Sunday, March 27 2005 12:55 Profile Homepage #51
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Originally written by EviL_TiM:

Whoever makes it, tells it not. Whoever takes it, knows it not. Whoever knows it, wants it not. What is it?
A spiked drink fits, but it's probably not the answer you were looking for.

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 written Sunday, March 27 2005 12:24 Profile Homepage #166
"Murder" is a legal term. Legally, abortion is not murder. Therefore, you're not calling it by its name.

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 written Sunday, March 27 2005 12:07 Profile Homepage #45
Stars.

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effects of special skills in Blades of Avernum
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 written Sunday, March 27 2005 11:51 Profile Homepage #1
Uh, Quick Strike and Parry require 8 dexterity, and Resistance and Gymnastics require 10 dexterity. You probably had a dexterity bonus from some source (either from being a Nephil, being Divinely Touched or an equipped item) on the character you were testing this on.

Actually, a list of all the prerequisites has already been compiled, so we should focus on the effects.

(Oh, and you forgot Lethal Blow. It requires some high number of points in Blademaster and Anatomy, and gives you a chance to do triple damage against enemies of lower level than yourself.)

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section borders in Blades of Exile
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 written Sunday, March 27 2005 11:49 Profile Homepage #1
You have two options.

1) Remake your terrain so that the problem isn't visible.

2) Complain to Jeff Vogel and hope he fixes it.

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easter eggs in Geneforge Series
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 written Sunday, March 27 2005 11:47 Profile Homepage #3
That's not what an easter egg is. An easter egg is a hidden thing, like the messages you get on the main menu screen of Geneforge 1 if you massage the creations that appear until there are 8 of the same kind on screen.

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easter eggs in Geneforge 2
Thuryl
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 written Sunday, March 27 2005 11:47 Profile Homepage #3
That's not what an easter egg is. An easter egg is a hidden thing, like the messages you get on the main menu screen of Geneforge 1 if you massage the creations that appear until there are 8 of the same kind on screen.

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New Abortion Laws in General
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 written Sunday, March 27 2005 11:34 Profile Homepage #163
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Originally written by No 2 Methylphenidate:

Thuryl,
are you sure that this principalistic perspective is appropriate to the issue?
Nobody's going to convince anyone of anything anyway, so I may as well make interesting arguments.

I think I'd have made a good lawyer. :P

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Help - Basshikava in Blades of Avernum
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 written Sunday, March 27 2005 11:22 Profile Homepage #17
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Originally written by spy.there:

Kel, did you change something with Galthrax' power? I can't remember him thus invincible. Ithik and the bunch of golems died after the first turns, then I tried to fight him with missiles and summoned monsters (to keep him in a distance).
Galthrax is immune to spells and seems to be nearly immune to melee and missiles. Even with the spear of Khaltas: you hit him 10 times and strike once, then the pole-fighter is eaten. After two hours(!) shooting that dragon I gave up. From 50 arrows remained about four hits. And I think even his health points increase sometimes, oh well.
I must add that my party was level 50. And I didn't have Clouds of Blades anymore, (played Canopy before).
Without Phaedra, Galthrax is not to beat - am I right?
Level 50's a little low -- you probably had quite a few advantageous traits, right? I finished around level 70.

Anyway, archery is *the* way to win this fight. An invulnerable, Divinely Aided fighter will do a lot of damage at first, but once Galthrax pulls out Dread Curse, fighters won't be able to do much to him. (If you have enough fighters in your party, with a little cleverness you can just about get him down from 50% of max HP to 0 in one round before he has a chance to act, thus avoiding the curse.)

Galthrax does indeed regenerate a lot of HP every round, so you'll need to do lots of damage. I recommend having Divine Aid on your archers -- although if you have at least two archers, you probably don't need it. (There's Heroic Brew in the scenario; I hope you saved one or two bottles.) If you're short on Heroic Brew (or are relying on the Divine Aid ability you get from Divinely Touched), don't use any until AFTER he drains your status bonuses.

Summoning is a very good idea for keeping Galthrax off your back, but only use Create Illusions. Higher-level summoning spells are a waste, because they still won't be able to do any damage to him, and he'll kill any summoned creature in one round.

I used a party with one fighter, two archer-priests and one mage, and was able to kill Galthrax without using any potions, but that's pretty much the best possible party for the scenario, so a more normal party will probably have to work harder.

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Male Choice in General
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 written Sunday, March 27 2005 03:46 Profile Homepage #3
I'm not saying that, but I am saying that when a relationship breaks up, the woman is almost always the one who gets stuck with the baby.

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 written Sunday, March 27 2005 03:21 Profile Homepage #1
Er, I think not. A man getting a woman pregnant and running out on her happens often enough even with child support.

This is the kind of law I'd abuse if I had the opportunity, which is why I know it'd be a bad idea.

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 written Sunday, March 27 2005 03:17 Profile Homepage #156
Failing to save a drowning man is indirectly killing him too, but that's not illegal. If I evict a tenant from my house and he dies of starvation, I'm not legally responsible, even if I knew he wouldn't survive without a roof over his head.

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Beta Call for The Darkness in Blades of Avernum
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 written Sunday, March 27 2005 03:12 Profile Homepage #21
Report sent. Fix the various issues listed in it and you'll have made a great scenario (although, uh, certain people are likely to hate it.)

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New Abortion Laws in General
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 written Sunday, March 27 2005 03:10 Profile Homepage #154
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But she can't kill the ocupant. Let her sue her son after giving him birth and he becomes a 18 (or 21 in certain countries) years old adult to respond for his "abuse".

That would be bad if someone finds your wallet and doesn't return it. Would you kill him? No. Just like there are limits for the minimum value you can keep, there are limits to the punishment you can deliver.
Okay. So by that logic it's wrong to actively kill the embryo before removing it, but okay to remove it from the uterus and leave it to live or die on its own?

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Simulacrum is far too powerful. in The Avernum Trilogy
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 written Sunday, March 27 2005 02:27 Profile Homepage #1
It was reworked for Blades of Avernum.

... The reworked version is still too powerful, though. :P

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New Abortion Laws in General
Thuryl
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 written Sunday, March 27 2005 02:07 Profile Homepage #152
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No, I'm not missing your point. I'm just pointing to you that your analogy can't be applied, as we have not property, to start with.
I repeat yet again: the embryo is not the stolen property, the uterus is, and the embryo is the innocent who has come into possession of the stolen property. How hard is it for you to pay attention to what I write?

In fact, the analogy applies not only in cases of pregnancy due to rape, but also in cases of pregnancy due to simple carelessness. There's a concept called "theft by finding": if you find lost property worth more than a certain value, it's illegal for you to keep it; it must be returned to its owner. If a woman inadvertently loses control over the occupancy of her uterus, she's entitled to retain it by evicting its current occupant.

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Are there any plans for multiplayer games? in General
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 written Sunday, March 27 2005 02:02 Profile Homepage #1
SW sticks with what sells. A multiplayer online game would be a big risk, requiring a large investment in servers and so forth, with no guarantee of reward.

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Beta Call for The Darkness in Blades of Avernum
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 written Saturday, March 26 2005 22:37 Profile Homepage #19
Got it. Based on reading the readme and taking a brief look at the scenario script, I already have some comments, but I'll save them for my report.

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