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Second Annual Themed Party Contest in General
Shaper
Member # 7420
Profile Homepage #5
I'll start us off with something simple. I actually took this before I came to these boards, so I never thought to post it before now.

IMAGE(http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/4407/guesswhoee1.jpg)

Just one of Avernum's more recognizable characters.

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Spiderweb MMORPG in General
Shaper
Member # 7420
Profile Homepage #18
quote:
Avernum and Geneforge were stratigetic for during combat.
When did George Bush join the forum? This explains so much.

[ Sunday, March 25, 2007 10:55: Message edited by: Emperor Tullegolar ]

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Changes for Geneforge 5 in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
Shaper
Member # 7420
Profile Homepage #4
quote:
Originally written by Warmaster Kermanuiouss:

6.Give drackons more character. ex) Some carry spears, better graphics for em.
I like this idea. I'd like to see the drakon shapers start wearing robes, and drakon soldiers could wear shoulderpads or something. It would be like the ending of Animal Farm. Appropriate, I think.

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Oh, so the Shapers are more ethical, are they now? in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
Shaper
Member # 7420
Profile Homepage #31
There is one child in the series, a young servile in, I think, Geneforge 2. But yeah, situations where you might end up killing children isn't really Jeff's style. Unlike Fallout, in which there were no less than 8 fully animated death sequences for the children. Not to mention plenty of incentive to blow the little bastards away. That game did fairly well for itself, Jeff should note that more violence is rarely a bad thing.

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Spiderweb MMORPG in General
Shaper
Member # 7420
Profile Homepage #15
How difficult do you suppose it would be to convert Avernum's turn-based engine into a slightly more real-time engine like Neverwinter Nights', where cooldown times take the place of turns? I always figured that, after seeing the nonturn-based non-combat in Geneforge, that that was the direction Jeff was heading in anyway.

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Range of Experience in Richard White Games
Shaper
Member # 7420
Profile Homepage #18
How did you know Cardinal Richelieu was my hero?

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Boo! in General
Shaper
Member # 7420
Profile Homepage #37
quote:
I like how you can't even spell the name of the guy you're apparently trying to stand up for.
You are a petty, petty man, Thuyrl.

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Are Drakons superior beings? in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
Shaper
Member # 7420
Profile Homepage #233
quote:
Originally written by Thuryl:

You emphasised the wrong part.
It wasn't my emphasis. I would have emphasised the "in the Greyghost Mountains" part. There is no way that they mean to evacuate all of Western Terretsia to those mountains. Even it it was possible to evacuate a continent, they would just use Illya or Burwood. They most likley meant that they were going to protect the creations already in the mountains. I'd say so far my "negative existential claim" stands.

That reminds me, it would be great is someone could sum up the superiority arguement like I did for my own claims. You guys have spent so much time defending that they are equal to humans (empathy, art) that you've given little reasoning for why they are actually superior, as was initially claimed.

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Are Drakons superior beings? in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
Shaper
Member # 7420
Profile Homepage #231
quote:
Originally written by Stillness:

Not only does he lie about Ghaldring not saying he was going to protect creations, but he implies that someone else pointed out that it was a misquote twice (which never happened) to add weight to his lie.
Here is the first time:
quote:
Originally written by -silver-:

never does it say that the Unbound are supposed to shelter people. Ghaldring says, "_Now the drakons can create the Unbound, and the rebels can help us. And we drakons will shelter the lesser beings with us in the Grayghost Mountains while our creations cleanse Terrestia of the Shapers._" (emphasis mine)
The second time was me repeating this. Don't call me a liar unless you know what you're talking about, please.

As for the Drakon at the Cairne Gates, note that it says he is irritated by your request. He does not want to help you because he is feeling empathic, otherwise, why would he be irritated? No, it would have said they looked concerned. He wasn't concerned, though, so he much more likely agreed to help you because serviles are a valuable labor and fighting resource. He is pragmatic, not empathic.

I still think the most powerful quote used so far in this thread is the one where Greta is killed by the unbound and it specifically says that the drakons remain emotionless. You say I ignore quotes, what do you have to say about that one?

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Boo! in General
Shaper
Member # 7420
Profile Homepage #33
Aw, Nayld, I think you hurt their feelings.

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To players of Avernum/Geneforge series in General
Shaper
Member # 7420
Profile Homepage #17
quote:
Originally written by Slarty:

Regardless, you've left out Exile and Nethergate, so there go all my votes.
Are you saying you like the Nethergate engine better than the Avernum one? Ew.

I like 3D better than the old 2D. I like being able to see elevations and walls. The Exile monsters did look better than Avernum's, but I think Geneforge has been great advances when it comes to graphics. Those monsters look great.

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Quick Avernum 5 Update, March '07 in Avernum 4
Shaper
Member # 7420
Profile Homepage #86
quote:
Originally written by Thuryl:

I'd have expected you to think that the ending of Exile I was an "evil" ending. :P
Well, I did put evil in quotes. Interpret that as you wish.

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Are Drakons superior beings? in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
Shaper
Member # 7420
Profile Homepage #225
Diki: You're talking about a high combat zone, plenty of both Shapers and Rebels, so of course there will be chaos and loose creations. Plus, the servile you meet there explains that rebels have been disguising themselves as civilians to place mines.

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To players of Avernum/Geneforge series in General
Shaper
Member # 7420
Profile Homepage #9
Between the Geneforge engine and the Avernum 1-3 engine, which I'm fairly sure is what Excalibur meant, I choose Geneforge. It's prettier, and I like the real time non-combate movement.

See, oldbies? It's not that hard to make a post without complaining about the topic.

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Quick Avernum 5 Update, March '07 in Avernum 4
Shaper
Member # 7420
Profile Homepage #83
quote:
Originally written by Spidweb:

iv. The plot is very elaborate and cool. I tried for a similar level of intricacy as Geneforge 4: Rebellion.
Does this mean there will be more than one possible ending, Geneforge style? Or does it just mean more scripted characters and events? Either way is great, but an 'evil' ending for an Avernum series game would be really cool.

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Are Drakons superior beings? in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
Shaper
Member # 7420
Profile Homepage #222
Hey, those dumping pits and sealed labs and whatnot are not meant to be entered by anyone, ever. As for creations guarding key strategic areas, what makes you say that those are no better than sending rogues to infest farmlands, or areas directly ajacent to villages? It's much better!

As for your examples: the Barrier Zone creations are under the direct control of Shapers, they can react to situations far more rationally than rogues. As for the ones at the Secured Crossroads, if they weren't there, the crazies at the Circle of the Drayk could escape, causing much more harm to nearby people (if there are any) than the shaper creations, which are bound to their area.

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Are Drakons superior beings? in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
Shaper
Member # 7420
Profile Homepage #220
quote:
To that, I point to the reason that they had no need to.
Of course they had need! People act like the drakons have it so much tougher than the Shapers do. It is noted many times that the Shapers are taking many casualties, they are reduced to hiding in their fortresses. Surely some super rogues would have been great to dump into provinces that they had aleady been lost. But they don't do that, it is against their principles. Only once the drakons had already screwed the world over do they finally release all they have.

As for Monarch, yes, the rebels under Greta attacked him. Humans are able to resolve their differences to protect the innocent. The drakons have not yet been in a position where they've had to save innocents from rogues. However, I have a feeling that unless it would be to their own great benefit for them to do so, they probably would not come to the rescue. After all, they are openly willing to murder millions to win the war, so they've already proven that they care little for the innocent.

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Are Drakons superior beings? in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
Shaper
Member # 7420
Profile Homepage #218
I was actually talking about rogue creations, but I'm glad you brought up rogue shapers. Note that whenever a shaper goes rogue, the majority of humans (especially in the case of Monarch) come together to eliminate the threat to the innocent. Humans go out of their way to protect the innocent, drakons do not.

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Are Drakons superior beings? in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
Shaper
Member # 7420
Profile Homepage #216
quote:
Originally written by Stillness:

What do the shapers do at endgame when the drakons have had success with the unbound?
By then, innocent people are already screwed. There is no longer a point to holding back once the unbound are released. The Shapers are definity not as bad as the drakons in this reguard.
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And rogue doesn't quite apply to drakons or a shaped human the same way it applies to a fyora who is out of control. The shapers group them together so as to justify their slaughter.
There was not a single Shaper rogue in the first three games. I don't remember any Shaper rogues in the fourth game, but if you can name some, I would be interested.
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drakons are banned and serviles are not.
Independant serviles are definitly banned. Does it make much of a difference that they can pretend to be stupid serviles? If they are caught living happily in a villiage (which is the way they want to live) they will die, reguardless.

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Carcassonne, Caylus, and Catan in General
Shaper
Member # 7420
Profile Homepage #6
Seidler von Catan, good times. We would play that in my German class. My team would always cheat and, instead of expanding our settlements, we would just collect cards non-stop. It worked, we usually won, stratagy smatagy.

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So we wasted 3 whole games??? in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
Shaper
Member # 7420
Profile Homepage #11
It doesn't matter where it takes place, I think Geneforge 5 will come down to killing the leaders. Ghaldrings death will mean the end of the Rebellion. There may be scattered rebels here and there but without him to lead them their cause will collapse. The same goes for the Shapers, however. If the invincible Council is destroyed, any sense of protection they once gave the people will be gone, as well as the universal fear of shapers, the Rebellion's victory would be complete.

In a sense, Eragon is right. The other games were fun and I'm not saying they were a waste, but the story could still easily go in either direction.

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Are Drakons superior beings? in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
Shaper
Member # 7420
Profile Homepage #213
quote:
Originally written by Stillness:

Shapers do both.
When did Shapers release rogues into the wild? They usually go through great lengths to control all of their creations (see Barrier Zone).

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So we wasted 3 whole games??? in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
Shaper
Member # 7420
Profile Homepage #9
I think the Rebellion will take Terrestia. We need to see what the world is like under drakon rule before the end of the series. Even though I doubt it will change anyone's minds.

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Are Drakons superior beings? in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
Shaper
Member # 7420
Profile Homepage #207
quote:
Originally written by Waylander:

Although I have them on ignore, I can imagine the response.
Wrong. But hey, now at least you have an excuse for being wrong.

Retlaw: You can find quotes by opening the scripts folder which is in the files folder. In it, there are about two scripts for every area. You want the dialogue script, which will look something like "z72khimaussdlg.txt, " or whatever town you are looking for. Open that, and search through the dialogue. I don't think anyone has a text dump up yet, do they?

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Exile 2 Pricing in General
Shaper
Member # 7420
Profile Homepage #17
Oh, so just because I'm not an oldbie means I'm not allowed to make lame jokes like they do?

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