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What will scare the heck out of McCain in General
Shaper
Member # 7420
Profile Homepage #71
He said he was talking about the Gulph War. I can see how people would gladly misinterpret his words, however.

And I still don't understand why you can't be a flip-flopper and a moderate. People called Kerry a flip flopper, yet according to that link you posted earlier, he voted liberal more often than anyone else in the Senate. It doesn't seem like being a flip-flopping tells you a whole lot about the politician.

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What will scare the heck out of McCain in General
Shaper
Member # 7420
Profile Homepage #69
So that's what you're going with? He's not a conservative, not a liberal, not a moderate... he's an inconsistent? Wow, and I thought you guys were stretching it with your definition of politics. I don't know why I bother.

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Geneforge 5 - May Update in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
Shaper
Member # 7420
Profile Homepage #19
quote:
Sushi:
Anybody else considering buying a 24" imac just for the game?
Anybody else already have a 24" imac? Ahem. *polishes badge*

I feel like I'll be able to see whole zones at once with this thing.
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Silver Shadow:
Less having to dump stuff in some location.
Another idea rather than pack animals might be a something like a Diablo 2 style stash system. Each major city could have a stash just for you for storing items, and they would be linked to each other. I wouldn't want pack animals simply because I can just imagine them getting killed in a boss fight or something and there being tons of your loot lying around right in the middle of a hostile zone. No fun.

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Posts: 2156 | Registered: Thursday, August 24 2006 07:00
What will scare the heck out of McCain in General
Shaper
Member # 7420
Profile Homepage #67
Zorro: Your examples are fine. They show McCain doesn't stick stalwartly to one side or the other. That seems like a moderate to me, what was your definition?

OOC: I think my posts keep disappearing. That, and in the recent posts section in my profile it says I've posted in the "Social Networking" thread when I clearly haven't. Just thought someone up there might want to know.

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Posts: 2156 | Registered: Thursday, August 24 2006 07:00
What will scare the heck out of McCain in General
Shaper
Member # 7420
Profile Homepage #62
Only people with lower member numbers are allowed to get away with humorous insults. That's how they run things around here.

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Posts: 2156 | Registered: Thursday, August 24 2006 07:00
What will scare the heck out of McCain in General
Shaper
Member # 7420
Profile Homepage #59
When did I claim to know what he was thinking? I was merely stating the facts. He had a moderate voting record. He started running for president again. He changed his voting record. He won the nomination. Put the pieces together however you wish.

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Geneforge 5 - Possible Sects in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
Shaper
Member # 7420
Profile Homepage #13
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Originally written by Student of Trinity:

They may not be openly all-out for canisters, at least not at first. There are many Shaper taboos, and the ones against self-shaping will probably not be the first to be abandoned. But I doubt anyone will have to push too far into the back rooms to find the canister stashes.
I really hope there wouldn't be a theme of reluctance in a Barzite faction. I would prefer a more "we told you so, now let's embrace our birthright" attitude.

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What will scare the heck out of McCain in General
Shaper
Member # 7420
Profile Homepage #55
quote:
Arancaytar:
And you trust that once McCain is president and has no need to pander, he'll go back to moderate.
I never said that. He'll do whatever works for him. Right now, being a conservative is working for him.
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Kelandon:
This is exactly the sort of comment that has you on the brink of banning. Keep it up, sport; then I won't have to listen to you anymore.
Is this what passes for a warning from a moderator these days?

[ Thursday, May 08, 2008 08:36: Message edited by: Emperor Tullegolar ]

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Geneforge 5 - Possible Sects in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
Shaper
Member # 7420
Profile Homepage #11
If there is an Awakened faction, there will be little room for a non-drakon type Rebellion faction. Unless those that break away from the Rebellion become the new Awakened.

I think a Shaper split is more likely because as the Rebels continue to grow more and more powerful and the Shapers continue to run out of trained shapers, some will turn to canisters. Those some will technically be Barzites.

I figure both splits will happen, still leaving room for the Trakovites. There's your five sects.

I'm still hoping for that extra yourself faction, however. Jeff's included non-faction endings before, so who knows.

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Posts: 2156 | Registered: Thursday, August 24 2006 07:00
What will scare the heck out of McCain in General
Shaper
Member # 7420
Profile Homepage #51
It's called common sense. He had a moderate voting record. He wants to get votes now, his record has changed very recently. You don't suppose there a connection, do you?

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Posts: 2156 | Registered: Thursday, August 24 2006 07:00
What will scare the heck out of McCain in General
Shaper
Member # 7420
Profile Homepage #49
You do realize he's pandering to the conservatives now that he is at the forefront of the Republican party, don't you?

Would you be so kind as to give me your definition of a moderate while you're at it?

And how is saying he would decrease spending a dodge? It's what conservatives do.

[ Thursday, May 08, 2008 07:10: Message edited by: Emperor Tullegolar ]

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Posts: 2156 | Registered: Thursday, August 24 2006 07:00
What will scare the heck out of McCain in General
Shaper
Member # 7420
Profile Homepage #46
Did you not click the link Sullust posted? He has a moderate voting record! You say he's just inconsistent? Moderates have to be inconsistent because of how polarized the legislation is! It's not like there's all this moderate legislation out there for them to vote on, it's a matter of swinging both ways.

And McCain does have a moderate stance on governance. He believes that the federal government should be small (conservative) yet also with plenty of power vested in it (liberal).

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Posts: 2156 | Registered: Thursday, August 24 2006 07:00
What will scare the heck out of McCain in General
Shaper
Member # 7420
Profile Homepage #44
I'm silly because I bought into the fact that he has a moderate voting record? What is wrong with you?

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Posts: 2156 | Registered: Thursday, August 24 2006 07:00
What will scare the heck out of McCain in General
Shaper
Member # 7420
Profile Homepage #42
Heh, maybe the Dems elect extreme candidates, but look how moderate McCain scored. Oh, and I totally voted for Arlen Specter a few years ago, best vote I ever cast. Hope he doesn't die.

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Geneforge 5 - Possible Sects in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
Shaper
Member # 7420
Profile Homepage #7
I anticipate the five factions will be:

1. Shapers, the usual.
2. Rebellion, with drakon leaders and human followers still.
3. Neo-Awakened, basically rebels minus the crazy people.
4. Trakovites, Jeff totally set them up in the last game.
5. See below.
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Originally written by Student of Trinity:

Will the canister-mad humans ally with the Drakons against all orthodox Shapers and lesser beings, or with lesser humans against all creations and orthodox Shapers?
If they are true Barzites, they would never ally with creations. That would just make them more rebels, wouldn't it? What makes the Barzites different from any other faction is that they are canister users who still hate creations, an ideology sorely underrepresented in the past two games.

And they do not have to work alone, either. They are basically orthodox shapers who want to take that extra step to put creations back in their place, which totally constitutes a faction. With the Shapers needing to bend their rules more and more all the time, it would likely be a popular faction as well.

They don't necessarily work only for their own benefit, either, unless they happen to be Tullegolites as well. Give them a new name, and you actually have a fairly logical faction: the people who hate creations because of the war and who intend to use all the power lying around to bring it to an end. Yes, they will probably end up crazy like the Barzites were, but that's the fun part.

I can't understand why Jeff has left this ideology out of the games for so long. If he leaves this option out again, I will be disappointed.

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Posts: 2156 | Registered: Thursday, August 24 2006 07:00
What will scare the heck out of McCain in General
Shaper
Member # 7420
Profile Homepage #40
McCain has a very moderate record for a Republican. You're right that he is no Chaffee, but as far as presidential candidates go, he is the most liberal Republican since Teddy Roosevelt.

As for Obama, I don't care whether or not he eats meat, the guy is a political liberal.

[ Thursday, May 08, 2008 00:11: Message edited by: Emperor Tullegolar ]

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Posts: 2156 | Registered: Thursday, August 24 2006 07:00
What will scare the heck out of McCain in General
Shaper
Member # 7420
Profile Homepage #38
quote:
Originally written by Thuryl:

Extreme by the standards of his political party
What is that supposed to mean? Obama has a very partisan voting record, which would mean he's exactly where he is supposed to be by his party's standards.

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Posts: 2156 | Registered: Thursday, August 24 2006 07:00
What will scare the heck out of McCain in General
Shaper
Member # 7420
Profile Homepage #36
quote:
Originally written by Jumpin Salmon:

The current system elects a polarized candidate.
McCain is about as moderate as Republicans come. Obama is fairly extreme, but, well, the people seem to prefer him to his more moderate opponent.

And Kelandon, for someone who doesn't care, you sure do whine a lot.

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Posts: 2156 | Registered: Thursday, August 24 2006 07:00
What will scare the heck out of McCain in General
Shaper
Member # 7420
Profile Homepage #30
quote:
Originally written by Kelandon:

Continue reading and notice the multiple citations that follow. The point here is that many (cited) political scientists do define "politics" this broadly (as evidenced by the later citations), not that the Wikipedia article is right or perfect.
No, none of the citations in the introduction link to political scientists, just free dictionaries. Try again.

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Posts: 2156 | Registered: Thursday, August 24 2006 07:00
Geneforge 5 - May Update in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
Shaper
Member # 7420
Profile Homepage #8
At last, the Shaper Council! About time we got to meet them... before the ending. I just hope the anti-creation pro-self-shaping faction is as cool as the Barzites were. It will be great to once again have access to a faction that is more close to my personal beliefs. You do have an anti-creation, pro-self-shaping faction in there with the five, right?

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Posts: 2156 | Registered: Thursday, August 24 2006 07:00
What will scare the heck out of McCain in General
Shaper
Member # 7420
Profile Homepage #27
quote:
Thuryl again:
The difference in consequences is one of degree, not of kind.
How is dealing with disgruntled workers not a different kind of consequence from punishment for murder? What are you talking about?

[ Wednesday, May 07, 2008 09:42: Message edited by: Emperor Tullegolar ]

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Posts: 2156 | Registered: Thursday, August 24 2006 07:00
What will scare the heck out of McCain in General
Shaper
Member # 7420
Profile Homepage #26
quote:
Thuryl:
What, are you now saying that office politics only counts as politics if you work for the government?
That is a colloquial use of the word. Any dictionary definition will indeed use the word "government" in it.
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Kelandon:
Check the intro to the Wikipedia article on "Politics" to see how standard this is.
Despite it being against my better judgement, I went to wikipedia as you requested. The first thing I noticed in the introduction was a big, glaring [citation needed]. Well done.

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Posts: 2156 | Registered: Thursday, August 24 2006 07:00
What will scare the heck out of McCain in General
Shaper
Member # 7420
Profile Homepage #13
quote:
Originally written by Thuryl:

You've really never tried to convince your friends to do something you want them to do, like go out to see a movie together? That's politics; the only difference between that and what the president does is the scale.
And how hard did you have to look to find a definition of the word politics without the word 'government' in it? Or would you consider a group of friends a kind of government as well, Mr. Broad-Definitions?

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Posts: 2156 | Registered: Thursday, August 24 2006 07:00
What will scare the heck out of McCain in General
Shaper
Member # 7420
Profile Homepage #9
Or it's not political influence and the government suffers from the lack of participation. All depends on whether you use logic or just twist words, I won't say who's doing which. I'd would say I'm a politician, but I'm not sure whether that would help or hurt my case.

[ Tuesday, May 06, 2008 10:26: Message edited by: Emperor Tullegolar ]

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Posts: 2156 | Registered: Thursday, August 24 2006 07:00
What will scare the heck out of McCain in General
Shaper
Member # 7420
Profile Homepage #7
I wouldn't say that's true. Plenty of people go through life without ever voting or even having a political opinion. The United States suffers chronically from people like this.

[ Tuesday, May 06, 2008 10:08: Message edited by: Emperor Tullegolar ]

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