To players of Avernum/Geneforge series

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Agent
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Usually, by reading all the threads, you can tell peoples opinions. But I haven't figured out this...

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WWJD?
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Raven v. Writing Desk
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Well, this is a little ambiguous, since Avernum 4 uses Geneforge graphics, and big chunks of its engine. Regardless, you've left out Exile and Nethergate, so there go all my votes. :P

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Slarty vs. DeskDesk vs. SlartyTimeline of ErmarianG4 Strategy Central
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Agent
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The topic was adressed to players of Avernum and Geneforge. I didn't put Exile, because Avernum is pretty much the newer version of it. As far as I know, Nethergate isn't a series.

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WWJD?
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Yay for indecisiveness!

Dikiyoba.
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This is ridiculous. How can you compare the two interfaces? G4 and A4 are much closer than A1 and A4, but when I want to say Avernum has a better interface that is still too ambiguous. I'll keep my opinions out of this survey.

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Originally written by Kelandon:

Well, I'm at least pretty sure that Salmon is losing.


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Agent
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Originally written by Excalibur:

I didn't put Exile, because Avernum is pretty much the newer version of it.
Except it has different graphics, a different engine, spells, monster abilities, and interface. :rolleyes:

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Originally written by Kelandon
Well, I'm at least pretty

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Shaper
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Exile should have been included; though the storyline is the same most aspects of how the two series are played and feel are very different.

I really prefer Avernum's (not A4) graphics, interface, dungeons, monsters, spells… to those of Geneforge. Avernum also leaves more options for scenarios than Geneforge does.
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Shock Trooper
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I hate to say it, but if Exile was included, would anyone had voted for it? I love the game, but...
1. Since Exile and Avernum have pretty much the same storyline, but Avernum fixed some discrepancies, that cancels out Exile.
2. Avernum has a better engine, graphics, and interface, again canceling out Exile.
3. Exile does have way more spells, but most are pretty much useless. Avernum's spells are all practical.
4. Although the monsters are pretty much the same, Avernum gave them more abilities.

So in conclusion, why speculate why Exile wasn't included when it is indeed inferior! Don't get me wrong, I still love to play the Exile Trilogy every now and again, but Avernum is the better choice. :cool:

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My name's Solberg. Pronounced Sol-Berg. Exile/Avernum's Greatest LIVING Archmage! I'm sure you've heard of me at some point.
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Raven v. Writing Desk
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That's your opinion, but there are plenty of people here who disagree.

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Slarty vs. DeskDesk vs. SlartyTimeline of ErmarianG4 Strategy Central
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Shaper
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Between the Geneforge engine and the Avernum 1-3 engine, which I'm fairly sure is what Excalibur meant, I choose Geneforge. It's prettier, and I like the real time non-combate movement.

See, oldbies? It's not that hard to make a post without complaining about the topic.

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You lose.
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Shock Trooper
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quote:
Originally written by 227 Chitrachballons:

That's your opinion, but there are plenty of people here who disagree.
So you and those 'plenty of people' would rather play Exile than Avernum. :confused: Please. About 40% of the regular people here have probably never even played Exile, :( let alone would choose it over Avernum.

As I said before, I still like and play Exile to this day, :D but let's be real. Most of the people who like/love Exile are still gonna choose Avernum because of the things listed above. Now tell me that's a lie! :cool:

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My name's Solberg. Pronounced Sol-Berg. Exile/Avernum's Greatest LIVING Archmage! I'm sure you've heard of me at some point.
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"Better engine" is entirely subjective. I find Avernum's graphics almost intolerably ugly, and it's a real barrier to my enjoyment -- Exile is much prettier.

And if you think most of Exile's spells are useless, you just don't know how to use them properly. Of all the spells in BoE, I can think of maybe two that I've never found any use for.

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The Empire Always Loses: This Time For Sure!
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quote:
Originally written by Arch-Mage Solberg:

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Originally written by 227 Chitrachballons:

That's your opinion, but there are plenty of people here who disagree.
So you and those 'plenty of people' would rather play Exile than Avernum. :confused: Please. About 40% of the regular people here have probably never even played Exile, :( let alone would choose it over Avernum.

As I said before, I still like and play Exile to this day, :D but let's be real. Most of the people who like/love Exile are still gonna choose Avernum because of the things listed above. Now tell me that's a lie! :cool:

That's a lie. :cool:

Exile kicks Avernum's scrawny isometric butt.

[ Saturday, March 24, 2007 19:06: Message edited by: Ash Lael ]

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quote:
Originally written by Ash Lael:

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Originally written by Arch-Mage Solberg:

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Originally written by 227 Chitrachballons:

That's your opinion, but there are plenty of people here who disagree.
So you and those 'plenty of people' would rather play Exile than Avernum. :confused: Please. About 40% of the regular people here have probably never even played Exile, :( let alone would choose it over Avernum.

As I said before, I still like and play Exile to this day, :D but let's be real. Most of the people who like/love Exile are still gonna choose Avernum because of the things listed above. Now tell me that's a lie! :cool:

That's a lie. :cool:

Exile kicks Avernum's scrawny isometric butt.

Well, maybe the % is closer to 30, but I believe I made my point.

Oh, and by the way...E=MC? ?=Squared
I just had to say that!

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My name's Solberg. Pronounced Sol-Berg. Exile/Avernum's Greatest LIVING Archmage! I'm sure you've heard of me at some point.
Posts: 385 | Registered: Tuesday, November 20 2001 08:00
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quote:
Originally written by Slarty:

Regardless, you've left out Exile and Nethergate, so there go all my votes. :P
Agreed. I can't accurately vote with these choices, so I won't. I really like the graphics and interface of Nethergate and the Avernum trilogy, but Exile's combat is unparalleled in awesomeness As for spells, I think a fusion of Ethe Exile system with the Nethergate system would rock.

[ Saturday, March 24, 2007 19:41: Message edited by: Tyran ]

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"It's sort of like Star Wars. Except Jeff didn't make Erika shoot first in Avernum 3, nor did he introduce annoying computer-animated aliens." —Arancaytar
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Raven v. Writing Desk
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I believe your point was slaughtered. Three people posted to say that Exile should have been in the poll, and four to say that they greatly prefer it to Avernum.

[ Saturday, March 24, 2007 19:32: Message edited by: 227 Chitrachballons ]

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Slarty vs. DeskDesk vs. SlartyTimeline of ErmarianG4 Strategy Central
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Originally by Emperor Tullegolar:

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See, oldbies? It's not that hard to make a post without complaining about the topic.
All you have to do is complain about something semi-related to the topic instead!

Dikiyoba.
Posts: 4346 | Registered: Friday, December 23 2005 08:00
Shaper
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quote:
Originally written by Slarty:

Regardless, you've left out Exile and Nethergate, so there go all my votes.
Are you saying you like the Nethergate engine better than the Avernum one? Ew.

I like 3D better than the old 2D. I like being able to see elevations and walls. The Exile monsters did look better than Avernum's, but I think Geneforge has been great advances when it comes to graphics. Those monsters look great.

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You lose.
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Am I the only person who thinks the Geneforge graphics are ugly?

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"It's sort of like Star Wars. Except Jeff didn't make Erika shoot first in Avernum 3, nor did he introduce annoying computer-animated aliens." —Arancaytar
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Shaper
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Add me to the list of people that prefers Exile graphics to Avernum's. Anyone that hasn't played though BoE scenarios is really missing out. Didn't get into it since we were asked to specifically compare Avernum to Geneforge.

I'm not too focused on graphics, so I don't mind Avernum's too much. A4's graphics pretty much killed the game for me. I can't stand the Geneforgish feel in an Avernum setting.
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Law Bringer
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Hey add me to the list who like Exile better than Avernum for spells and graphics and both over Geneforge. Nethergate had a great engine it just never became popular,

You do have to differentiate between the different versions within each series. Avernum 4 borrowed so much from Geneforge that it shouldn't be classed with the other Avernum games.
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Originally written by Arch-Mage Solberg:

Oh, and by the way...E=MC? ?=Squared
I just had to say that!

Noob.

:P

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Originally written by Kelandon:

Well, I'm at least pretty sure that Salmon is losing.


Posts: 4114 | Registered: Monday, April 25 2005 07:00
Agent
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I'm another one who prefers the Exile graphics, spells and monsters to their Avernum counterparts. And the sound effects, which haven't been mentioned yet.

As for comparing Geneforge and Avernum, I voted "can't make up my mind" on this, partly because of Avernum 4 and Geneforge 4, which are so different from their predecessors that they essentially reverse my view of the two series, but also because it's really all a matter of one thing cancelling out another. For example I prefer the way Avernum 1-3 handles action points, but I prefer the speed of travelling about in Geneforge 1-2. There simply isn't a preponderance of advantages on either side; which engine do I then vote for?

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Geneforge 4 stuff. Also, everything I know about Avernum | Avernum 2 | Avernum 3 | Avernum 4
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quote:
Originally written by Arch-Mage Solberg:

quote:
Originally written by Ash Lael:

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Originally written by Arch-Mage Solberg:

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Originally written by 227 Chitrachballons:

That's your opinion, but there are plenty of people here who disagree.
So you and those 'plenty of people' would rather play Exile than Avernum. :confused: Please. About 40% of the regular people here have probably never even played Exile, :( let alone would choose it over Avernum.

As I said before, I still like and play Exile to this day, :D but let's be real. Most of the people who like/love Exile are still gonna choose Avernum because of the things listed above. Now tell me that's a lie! :cool:

That's a lie. :cool:

Exile kicks Avernum's scrawny isometric butt.

Well, maybe the % is closer to 30, but I believe I made my point.

Oh, and by the way...E=MC? ?=Squared
I just had to say that!

Read my name and weep, and you can add me to the Exile bandwagon, although I've just started getting into Avernum. I only like Avernum for its nifty little features like being able to leave one of your characters somewhere and able to pick someone else up, and so forth. That and Ritual of Sanctification doen't take up 50 spellpoints.

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Agent
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Exile is obsolete; it died along with Realmz and other RPGs of the time.

Exile wasn't included because this topic is about Avernum and Geneforge, NOT Exile.

I though most of you guys would get that I meant the first three of each series, since that is how it's split on these boards. Sorry for any confusion caused by this.

[ Sunday, March 25, 2007 11:58: Message edited by: Excalibur ]

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WWJD?
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