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Quick Avernum 5 Update, March '07 in Avernum 4
Shaper
Member # 7420
Profile Homepage #21
quote:
Originally written by Spidweb:

Rentar-Ihrno is still dead.
But... but...

What do you mean 'still?' I didn't realize it had ever been made official before now! The ending... it was supposed to be open ended...

Oh, Rentar! Say it isn't so! Who could ever fill the void left in my heart?

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Oh, so the Shapers are more ethical, are they now? in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
Shaper
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Profile Homepage #13
So Waylander, you would argue that the unbound are not sapient/sentient. I am curious now, do you feel this way about any other creations? If so, which ones?

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G4 EDITOR in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
Shaper
Member # 7420
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My editor was really only meant to hold people (and myself) over until better ones arrived. Looking forward to seeing these in action.

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What people would you like to be? [fixed] in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
Shaper
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I would like to see the Rebellion win the war, just so that the world can finally see the era of chaos we will be led into under their rule. The people will cry out for the return of the Shapers, or, better yet, the rise of the Tullegolites.

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If you could be any creation... in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
Shaper
Member # 7420
Profile Homepage #27
quote:
Originally written by BLACK HAZE.:

You wingboltsss do not fly actually...you just...hover,or levitate,you cannot fly into the sky like a bird.
The game often says that the rebels hide in caves so as not to be spotted by creations that fly through the skies. They are probably refering to wingbolts.

If I absolutely had to be a worthless creation, I'd probably go with servant mind, one of the minds with Shaftoe. They make creations and put up a fairly good fight.

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What people would you like to be? in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
Shaper
Member # 7420
Profile Homepage #16
Yeah, the world is a lot better now that it is engulfed in chaos. Rogues are running around everywhere, the land itself is scorched and wasted. Yeah, things have really been looking up since the Rebellion arrived.

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Are Drakons superior beings? in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
Shaper
Member # 7420
Profile Homepage #123
quote:
Originally written by Stillness:

The Shaper empire is based off of lack of compassion.
Yes, and so they can't be blamed for their cruelty. The Rebellion, on the other hand, claims to fight for freedom and equality. They have a lot more to live up to than the Shapers do, and they are failing miserably.

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National anthem for the rebels in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
Shaper
Member # 7420
Profile Homepage #17
Yet the drakons have plenty of time to sit around squabbling all the time...

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Quick question.............. in General
Shaper
Member # 7420
Profile Homepage #3
Imageshack.

It's what I use, anyway.

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Oh, so the Shapers are more ethical, are they now? in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
Shaper
Member # 7420
Profile Homepage #8
Using a creation to accomplish a goal and then absorbing it. It's what the Rebellion is all about. Wait... what? The Rebellion is supposed to be about treating all creations equally, isn't it? Well, at least the drakons would never do what the Shapers did to them and attempt to genocide a race. Wait, they're planning on doing what to the unbound?

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Are Drakons superior beings? in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
Shaper
Member # 7420
Profile Homepage #119
quote:
Waylander:
There is only one Drakon with such characteristics
Is this a joke? Ever been to the Taker Toll Road in Geneforge 2? A female drakon stands there, surrounded on all sides by her gathered wealth. That's just one, and there are more as well, mostly unnamed ones with piles of treasure in their lairs.

No matter how you look at it, everything drakons do is motivated directly by either greed or pure aggression.

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National anthem for the rebels in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
Shaper
Member # 7420
Profile Homepage #13
Well, I can't let the Rebellion have all the fun. Here is one for the Shapers, set to the music of "God Save the Queen" of course.

All hail out sacred laws,
Uphold them one and all.
Order prevails.
May peace and justice rise,
and the Council's all-seeing eyes,
Watch us for the rest of time.
All hail our laws.

Gifts of the great craft see,
in every rock and tree.
Shaping prevails.
Creations roam the land,
but by our guiding hand,
we may together stand.
All hail our laws.

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Game music -the poll in General
Shaper
Member # 7420
Profile Homepage #21
quote:
Originally written by Andraste:

And electric guitars and pianos go with everything. :P
I can picture you dancing to Avernum 2's theme, loser. Then again, I'm just as bad, I raise my hand in the air like that shaper in the pictuer whenever I hear Geneforge 2's.

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Time Magazine: Shaper of the Year in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
Shaper
Member # 7420
Profile Homepage #15
quote:
Originally written by Student of Trinity:

I sort of wish, now, that G2 could have had more scripting and plotting, like G4. Maybe then Barzahl himself wouldn't be stuck in my memory as this idiot who just stood there glowing while you gradually destroyed his empire, and finally him. Thinking back now, it seems he deserved better.
If I can convince more people of this, all the time I've wasted here will have been worth it.

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Range of Experience in Richard White Games
Shaper
Member # 7420
Profile Homepage #9
quote:
Originally written by Dikiyoba:

Your ignorance of the RW Cult and our ways has never and will never fail to astound Dikiyoba.
I don't need to understand you to persecute you. That reminds me, are you wearing your star? You'd better be.

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Are Drakons superior beings? in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
Shaper
Member # 7420
Profile Homepage #114
quote:
Originally written by Waylander:

And Emp, you point out the existence of Gazer canisters when the the hero arrives in Drypeak. May I point out that all these canisters were in Taker lands? This seems to suggest that the Gazer canisters were a product of the Takers.
When did I say that? No, I said 'no canisters required.' The Barzites know how to create gazers well enough to teach your character two levels of it. That seems like skill to me.

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Spiderweb Game of the Year and... in General
Shaper
Member # 7420
Profile Homepage #10
quote:
Originally written by Tyran:

Why in the world did 5 people say A2 could have been improved? :confused:
Either they are oldbies who want to complain that Exile II was better, or people are finally realizing how overrated that game is.

Best overall: Geneforge 2.

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Are Drakons superior beings? in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
Shaper
Member # 7420
Profile Homepage #110
He's probably assuming it, a reasonable assumtion, I think. If the Barzites created the first ones, they would have noted their resistance to control, destroyed them, and stopped making them. That's probably why the gazers you speak to say only the Takers make them, because even though the Barzites clearly can, they don't anymore. That's also why the Takers are better at making them, because the Barzites gave up on them, probably seeing them as a failure.

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Are Drakons superior beings? in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
Shaper
Member # 7420
Profile Homepage #106
I don't understand how you can design something without creating it. What did he do, draw pictures?

It seems like creations are made through trial and error. They would make changes, and observe outcomes. I don't think you can just design a creation and then make it happen.

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Are Drakons superior beings? in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
Shaper
Member # 7420
Profile Homepage #104
Probably the fact that everyone says the Barzites designed them yet no one says directly that the Takers make the first ones.

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Are Drakons superior beings? in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
Shaper
Member # 7420
Profile Homepage #99
quote:
Thot-Tha: Only the mighty Takers can make Gazers.
Tessera Eye: The drakons are the only ones who can make us now,
Ha! Liars! Tricky little creations, aren't they? Anyone who says this is lying. If you are a loyal Barzite, the instructor at the Radiant College will be kind enough to teach you how to make a gazer for a small fee. No canisters required.
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Me: Drakons know only two things: warfare and greed.
Stillness: Where do you get this from?
Name one drakon that did not fit into one of these catagories.
quote:
You watch, horrified, as Greta crumples to the ground. The drakons note her passing without the slightest bit of emotion. One of the heroes of the rebellion has been cut down simply to test one of their creations.
Ooo, I like that quote. I never had Greta die on me so this is the first time I've seen it. Nice.

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National anthem for the rebels in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
Shaper
Member # 7420
Profile Homepage #1
It doesn't have one because it is not a revolution that is oriented around the general population like many of the ones you named. The drakons don't actively seek to get people to revolt against their Shaper overlords, and the people don't generally try to. In fact, since both sides fight mostly with creations, this war involves very few normal people at all, thus no need for an anthem.

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If you could be any creation... in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
Shaper
Member # 7420
Profile Homepage #15
Why would you want to be a servile? They're just like humans... only worse.

Drayks and drakons do have thumbs. You can see them pretty clearly.

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Oh, so the Shapers are more ethical, are they now? in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
Shaper
Member # 7420
Profile Homepage #1
One instance that always comes to mind when I question Shaper ethics would be the situation in the Valeya Ruins. Guardian Kantor, despite his mission to undermine the Rebellion, decided to stay and protect the town and it's inhabitants instead. This is one of the most chivalric acts done by anyone in the war.

As for the rebel ending, I don't think the Shapers are as much at fault as the Rebellion. The Shapers don't want to release crazy creations at first because they are worried about killing innocents. The drakons do not care, and so the Unbound kill them anyway. I don't think the Shapers were wrong to make mad creations of their own at that point because most of the people they were trying to protect were dead by then anyway. How can you say they are equally at fault?

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Are Drakons superior beings? in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
Shaper
Member # 7420
Profile Homepage #90
Waylander, in your edits, you are moving from a discussion on species into a political discussion.

I found a quote you might be refering to, the gazer South of the city of Rising says "My design was first created by Barzahl. I was perfected and created in the mountains of the Takers." This does not say that the drakons created the first gazer, only the one you are talking to. Although the wording is a bit questionable here, the fact that so many other people say Barzahl created the gazers would still lead me to believe Barzahl made the first one.

Edit: In my searches, I also noticed Barzahl created the war-bred serviles. Another point for Barzahl!

[ Saturday, March 17, 2007 20:03: Message edited by: Emperor Tullegolar ]

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