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Elegance is a function. in General
Jumpin Salmon
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Member # 5755
 written Monday, December 18 2006 11:42 Profile #9
I'm afraid that is all a load of hooey. Elegance is a state of appreciation. It is an observed quality rather than an actual one. The human form (idealized) has been considered elegant, yet it founders in both air and sea. Decidedly unelegant. Photosynthesis is elegant until one gains the knowledge of the jury-rigged inner functions that are disguised by the simplistic formula.

Or did you mean that Elegance is a function of relativity? That is something I could agree with. Fred and Ginger are only when on the dance floor.

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Originally written by Kelandon:

Well, I'm at least pretty sure that Salmon is losing.
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Reviews Received in Blades of Avernum
Jumpin Salmon
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Member # 5755
 written Saturday, December 16 2006 20:43 Profile #10
Sorry about the delay. We've had a little breezy weather event which seems to have demonstrated the inherent weakness of distributed systems. I'll email something tonight. Thankfully it is only round 1 and I've played the scenarios.

Edit - To be precise, we have no power except that from a generator. Nor will we be getting power for at least 4 more days. Bright side? Lots of firewood.

[ Saturday, December 16, 2006 20:45: Message edited by: Spent Salmon ]

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Originally written by Kelandon:

Well, I'm at least pretty sure that Salmon is losing.
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5353: Pseudohistory Phatassathon in General
Jumpin Salmon
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Member # 5755
 written Thursday, December 14 2006 10:14 Profile #5
"Do" Graham Hancock.

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Originally written by Kelandon:

Well, I'm at least pretty sure that Salmon is losing.
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Nothing Plus Nothing Equals Nothing in General
Jumpin Salmon
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Member # 5755
 written Wednesday, December 13 2006 00:42 Profile #38
Sticking yourself with needles won't turn you into an acupuncturist.

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quote:
Originally written by Kelandon:

Well, I'm at least pretty sure that Salmon is losing.
Posts: 4114 | Registered: Monday, April 25 2005 07:00
Contest Judging Registration in Blades of Avernum
Jumpin Salmon
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Member # 5755
 written Friday, December 1 2006 17:00 Profile #39
quote:
Originally written by Tyranicus:

It is finished.
It seems that the Artifact Hall link (Windows) is broken. What gives?

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Originally written by Kelandon:

Well, I'm at least pretty sure that Salmon is losing.
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All good things must come to an end... in General
Jumpin Salmon
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Member # 5755
 written Friday, December 1 2006 14:25 Profile #2
Edit- In light of Alorael's manipulations, I declare this entire thread to be spam. Actually, it is something entirely different, but that phrase might be found objectionable.

Shame.

[ Sunday, December 03, 2006 12:11: Message edited by: Spent Salmon ]

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Originally written by Kelandon:

Well, I'm at least pretty sure that Salmon is losing.
Posts: 4114 | Registered: Monday, April 25 2005 07:00
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Jumpin Salmon
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Member # 5755
 written Friday, December 1 2006 13:40 Profile #37
quote:
Originally written by Kelandon:

In the past, we've required that designers actually submit their scenarios to someone by the contest deadline.
This is central to the issue as well. Without a submission, scenarios can be worked upon until the judging is completed, submitted to some arcane hosting site, and that can lead to all sorts of confusions when the final results are posted.

It's tough enough to get a level playing field without having this level of uncertainty. I've downloaded a handful of scenario zip files, but until I'm ceratin they are the right ones I'm not going to be bothering.

Tyranicus - If you could host a special 8th contest page with the various files that are appropriate, that would be great. You are an impartial, yet easily bribable, site. I noticed that your BoA database was current as of 11/30. Could your uber-fast connection support the additional traffic related to the upload and download of several utilities and BoE scenarios? If so, that would be fantastic and a great help.

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Originally written by Kelandon:

Well, I'm at least pretty sure that Salmon is losing.
Posts: 4114 | Registered: Monday, April 25 2005 07:00
Statistics:Topics Derailed in General
Jumpin Salmon
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Member # 5755
 written Friday, December 1 2006 12:37 Profile #9
Blazing Saddles is a great movie.

Soylent Green is highly rated movie.

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Originally written by Kelandon:

Well, I'm at least pretty sure that Salmon is losing.
Posts: 4114 | Registered: Monday, April 25 2005 07:00
Contest Judging Registration in Blades of Avernum
Jumpin Salmon
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Member # 5755
 written Friday, December 1 2006 12:28 Profile #33
quote:
Originally written by BainIhrno:

quote:
Orignially written by Spent Salmon:
I would suggest that having Shadow Vale as the official download site for the contest would make judging a lot more even.
Forgetting something Salmon? Like that there's a few BoE scenarios in this contest and therefore can't be hosted? Or that there's non-scenario utilities that aren't hosted there?
It is altogether too likely that there is some technical issue I'm overlooking. Do BoE and BoA scenarios/utilities become inbred if they inhabit the same server? Is there some technical failing of Tyranicus would would render his mad web skillz useless if asked to create a special area for the contest? So, please do explain how this suggestion of mine is impossible, and provide your own suggestion for a hosting site.

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Originally written by Kelandon:

Well, I'm at least pretty sure that Salmon is losing.
Posts: 4114 | Registered: Monday, April 25 2005 07:00
Contest Judging Registration in Blades of Avernum
Jumpin Salmon
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Member # 5755
 written Friday, December 1 2006 12:09 Profile #31
To restate my central point, I find it exceedingly important that all judges be reviewing the exact same version of a scenario. I would suggest that having Shadow Vale as the official download site for the contest would make judging a lot more even. I would also like to know who is in charge. Despite all the hard word stareye has expended in getting this thing going, there may be more appropriate leaders than an entrant. Drakefyre maybe? He seems to have some authority.

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Originally written by Kelandon:

Well, I'm at least pretty sure that Salmon is losing.
Posts: 4114 | Registered: Monday, April 25 2005 07:00
Contest Judging Registration in Blades of Avernum
Jumpin Salmon
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Member # 5755
 written Friday, December 1 2006 09:03 Profile #27
Time is money. The deadline has passed. If I am to judge then I need to know where the scenario submissions are being hosted, what are the expectations for critical commentary, and if there are any "deadlines" for scoring submissions. I've avoided playing entrants, except as a beta tester, so as to not color my experience if final tweaks were being made. For this reason I suspect that it will take some time for judging to occur, and want it to happen soon. It will be impossible after the 22nd, but possible again after 2007 begins.

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Originally written by Kelandon:

Well, I'm at least pretty sure that Salmon is losing.
Posts: 4114 | Registered: Monday, April 25 2005 07:00
Contest Judging Registration in Blades of Avernum
Jumpin Salmon
? Man, ? Amazing
Member # 5755
 written Wednesday, November 29 2006 22:45 Profile #26
quote:
Originally written by BainIhrno:

We really do need more judges. Looking over, if Redwall does advance, Salmon would be the only judge for Best Scenario.
Even with other judges, mine will be the only opinion of note.

:P

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Originally written by Kelandon:

Well, I'm at least pretty sure that Salmon is losing.
Posts: 4114 | Registered: Monday, April 25 2005 07:00
Episode 3: A New Game in General
Jumpin Salmon
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Member # 5755
 written Sunday, November 26 2006 15:32 Profile #635
quote:
Originally written by Nioca:

Wow. This chapter was all about cutting it close. Tullegolar, Garrison and I were just in time to save Arancaytar. Tullegolar stepped in just in time to keep me from getting skewered. And Garrison was just in time to cure Arancaytar (which I would have done, except I was a little busy at the moment).
Good deal! Now I don't need to waste all that time reading the actual chapter. I'd completely forgotten about Cliff Notes.

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Originally written by Kelandon:

Well, I'm at least pretty sure that Salmon is losing.
Posts: 4114 | Registered: Monday, April 25 2005 07:00
Contest Rules in Blades of Avernum Editor
Jumpin Salmon
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Member # 5755
 written Saturday, November 25 2006 23:47 Profile #23
quote:
Originally written by *i:

We expect judges to be honest in the initial rounds. After all, there is nothing at stake other than bragging rights really so I don't see the consequences to be too bad.
I would gather from this statement that one of two things has happened. Either Jeff was unwilling to donate a prize or prizes to the winner(s), or he was never asked.

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Originally written by Kelandon:

Well, I'm at least pretty sure that Salmon is losing.
Posts: 4114 | Registered: Monday, April 25 2005 07:00
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Jumpin Salmon
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Member # 5755
 written Saturday, November 25 2006 12:05 Profile #19
quote:
Originally written by Kelandon:

And a scenario gets entered in exactly one category? That is, a Newcomer scenario is only a Newcomer, and not a Small or Large?
My belief was that each entrant selected the appropriate category(ies) for each scenario being entered into the contest, within the guidelines for categorization. Each Newcomer scenario would therefore be in either Large or Small (if desired).

But, whatever.

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Originally written by Kelandon:

Well, I'm at least pretty sure that Salmon is losing.
Posts: 4114 | Registered: Monday, April 25 2005 07:00
Contest Rules in Blades of Avernum Editor
Jumpin Salmon
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Member # 5755
 written Saturday, November 25 2006 09:31 Profile #15
Utilities are eligible.

Scripts are not part of this contest.

Those were the two categories that were discussed, it was decided to have a script contest in a few months, probably around March or April.

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Originally written by Kelandon:

Well, I'm at least pretty sure that Salmon is losing.
Posts: 4114 | Registered: Monday, April 25 2005 07:00
Performance Evaluation in General
Jumpin Salmon
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Member # 5755
 written Friday, November 24 2006 13:21 Profile #14
quote:
Originally written by Nioca:

Hey, Salmon! Somewhat short time, no see!
Slarty, if this is the mindless drivel you are talking about, then I agree wholeheartedly.

If on the other hand you are talking about the numerous election-related debates, the buildup to G4-Mac, or the various strong-weak flamefests, I would beg to differ. Look at the statistics for Oct-06 and compare them to Nov-06. Other than quantity, the lists are the same. I fail to see how people with interesting things to say have stayed away. You certainly have interesting things to say and you doubled your postings. It's difficult to debate the merits of increased traffic without knowing how it affects the bottom line at Spidweb. Jeff certainly doesn't discuss that, but given the assumption he keeps these boards open to increase his bottom line, how would more traffic be bad? The highest visitor count to this site was November 15th, with 90 people viewing.

These boards exist to promote the company, and to some extent the community. If it is good for the company to maintain a streamlined board through pruning, it is of necessity also good for the community. While it may be inconvenient for people wishing to explore the history of the gaming community, there is no legitimate reason to think that pruning would harm the company. If a question gets asked, it gets answered. If search works, a person might look there first, but really there is no harm done if 30 threads over the course of a year are started about the same in-game question.
There are already enough guidelines in place to ensure that over-posting won't drown the board. I remain highly amused at the level of self-righteous "anti-spam" spam that is passing as legitimate content these days.
:P

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Originally written by Kelandon:

Well, I'm at least pretty sure that Salmon is losing.
Posts: 4114 | Registered: Monday, April 25 2005 07:00
Performance Evaluation in General
Jumpin Salmon
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Member # 5755
 written Friday, November 24 2006 11:05 Profile #7
quote:
Originally written by Charged Slartile:

Um. Putting aside the questionable definition of "helped the boards," spam certainly doesn't. It spreads further thin the already thin distribution of actual content, and it drives members with interesting things to say away.

It absolutely did not help.
I just gotta know. Why the unabashed hatred of increased posting? Why the half-baked logic? Why the bias? Your statement that increased posting drives away members seems to be without merit or cause. You, on a personal level, may not feel the need to have a social outlet on a forum devoted to games, but there seem to be quite a few others that do enjoy it. Why harsh their buzz?

And for the record, last month the purpose was to increase posting rates, increase board attendance, and generate renewed interest in Spiderweb Software. While a few members determined that this meant spam and flamed spam, that was not always the case, but I'm certain it will only be remembered for the more senseless postings. It just seems easier to remember and condemn the bad than to praise the good. :rolleyes:

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Originally written by Kelandon:

Well, I'm at least pretty sure that Salmon is losing.
Posts: 4114 | Registered: Monday, April 25 2005 07:00
Work-arounds for te_can_look_at? in Blades of Avernum Editor
Jumpin Salmon
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Member # 5755
 written Saturday, November 18 2006 23:01 Profile #6
quote:
Originally written by Kelandon:

Uh, given that this is an issue that affects us all, it'd be interesting to know what Salmon suggested.
Any other instance than a scenario I was beta-ing, and there wouldn't have been the PM. I sat for hours trying to make things searchable and not searchable, and the only thing I saw that was making a difference was the item number and then number of custom objects. Too much testing for me, so I went outside before my skull exploded. I figgered Ephesos would eventually take the same action. ;)

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Originally written by Kelandon:

Well, I'm at least pretty sure that Salmon is losing.
Posts: 4114 | Registered: Monday, April 25 2005 07:00
Work-arounds for te_can_look_at? in Blades of Avernum Editor
Jumpin Salmon
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Member # 5755
 written Saturday, November 18 2006 12:47 Profile #1
PM sent.

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Originally written by Kelandon:

Well, I'm at least pretty sure that Salmon is losing.
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Perfect forest in Blades of Avernum
Jumpin Salmon
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Member # 5755
 written Friday, November 17 2006 10:01 Profile #1
You need to destroy the power generator in the northern room. Position them so that the beam redirects to that location and your headache will go away.

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Originally written by Kelandon:

Well, I'm at least pretty sure that Salmon is losing.
Posts: 4114 | Registered: Monday, April 25 2005 07:00
Hmm. How to use the revamped windos editor- help in Blades of Avernum Editor
Jumpin Salmon
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Member # 5755
 written Friday, November 17 2006 09:49 Profile #5
quote:
From stealthdata.txt, A Small Rebellion:

// A Small Rebellion Custom Object Types

beginscendatascript;

// FLOOR TYPES
begindefinefloor 135;
import = 95;
fl_name = "Floor With a Crack";
fl_which_sheet = 500;
fl_which_icon = 3;

// TERRAIN TYPES
begindefineterrain 430;
import = 200;
te_name = "Locker";
te_which_sheet = 500;
te_which_icon = 0;
te_ed_which_sheet = 510;
te_ed_which_icon = 0;
There are two custom objects in this quote. The first is simply a renaming of floor 135. The second is a new terrain which uses sheet 500 (G500.bmp), first icon. Te_ed refers to the editor icon.

Do similar things with your scenariodata.txt file in order to add them to the scenario.

Edit - formatting for clarity, hopefully.

[ Friday, November 17, 2006 09:52: Message edited by: Spent Salmon ]

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Originally written by Kelandon:

Well, I'm at least pretty sure that Salmon is losing.
Posts: 4114 | Registered: Monday, April 25 2005 07:00
Stats inside (with History special!) in General
Jumpin Salmon
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Member # 5755
 written Friday, November 17 2006 09:12 Profile #10
quote:
Originally written by Kelandon:

Also, Salmon is shameless.
Yes, pretty much. Although I did struggle mightily to avoid putting that word in my post. It seemed appropriate, yet it would not have been me. Thanks for setting the record straight and letting me wiggle past another month, guilt-free.

:D

Edit - Yup Slarty, you are absolutely right. :rolleyes:

[ Friday, November 17, 2006 09:17: Message edited by: Spent Salmon ]

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Originally written by Kelandon:

Well, I'm at least pretty sure that Salmon is losing.
Posts: 4114 | Registered: Monday, April 25 2005 07:00
Stats inside (with History special!) in General
Jumpin Salmon
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Member # 5755
 written Friday, November 17 2006 09:07 Profile #6
quote:
Originally written by Kelandon:

Bad spammers. Bad.
Yes.

Nioca needs to do another analysis now. How much time was spent on those posts. Figure all the reading and then the writing. Two minutes per written post, except for polls, and 15 seconds to read each post.

Deeply pleased at the resurgent activity doesn't begin to cover it.

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Originally written by Kelandon:

Well, I'm at least pretty sure that Salmon is losing.
Posts: 4114 | Registered: Monday, April 25 2005 07:00
November Posting Stats Self-Fulfilling Prophecy Poll in General
Jumpin Salmon
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Member # 5755
 written Wednesday, November 8 2006 23:43 Profile #125
quote:
Originally written by Andraste:

quote:
Originally written by Ephesos:

Quoted for outright truth... this is why boards have to exist... who has time to hunt down/pay for a detailed walkthrough?
I do. It's usually faster than waiting for someone to answer your question. Then, when they do answer, they usually link you to the thread containing the answer. I just cut out the middle man.
I tend to pay someone to play the game for me, tell me how well I did, if I enjoyed it, and all that stuff. It keeps my computer less cluttered that way.

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Originally written by Kelandon:

Well, I'm at least pretty sure that Salmon is losing.
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