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Training ground question in Geneforge Series
Shaper
Member # 5437
Profile #12
This is one of the very few times I used meatshields. I never did like doing that.

Anyways I used battle Alphas that had only endurance (about seven) and several fyoras with only endurance. Using bless, protection, augmentation, essence shield… I would use essence orbs so I could hit as many at a time as possible. The golems and pylons would attack the creations first most of the time. This would allow me to preserve my health long enough to barely survive.
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Do you think there is a Hell? in General
Shaper
Member # 5437
Profile #256
quote:
originally written by 1001011001000:
I disagree. If God didn't want people to be gay, as it says in the Bible, he wouldn't create them to be hetrosexual or homosexual. That's a decision people make by themselves.

You don't know any homosexuals do you? Most say it is not a choice. I didn't choose to be heterosexual, I just am. It applies to most people. It's instinct, not choice.

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God created Adam and Eve sinless and faultless, but their human nature caused them to sin, and therefore mankind because imperfect. Only God can forgive us of our sins.
If God created people sinless and faultless they would not have sinned. To sin is a fault, a weakness shall I say. It is a contradiction to say humans were created perfect and than to say they were imperfect enough to sin.

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the Devil, after trying to overpower God, was out of heaven and into sin, so he still trys to win souls of people, which he does by keeping people from believing in God with all their various doubts.
You are saying all the people who don't believe in God (or the Christian God that is) are under the influence of the Devil? This discounts free will entirely. Free will means that we have the ability to think for ourselves. If free will exists than people would be able to make such choice under their own influence. For that matter people who don't follow your God don't necessarily believe in the Devil either.

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Nena
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Whats your favorite creation? in Geneforge Series
Shaper
Member # 5437
Profile #5
I stand by my love of cryodrayks.
Posts: 2032 | Registered: Wednesday, January 26 2005 08:00
Whats your favorite creation? in Geneforge 2
Shaper
Member # 5437
Profile #5
I stand by my love of cryodrayks.

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Nena
Posts: 2032 | Registered: Wednesday, January 26 2005 08:00
The second weekly international spiderweb contest will now begin in General
Shaper
Member # 5437
Profile #11
Probably somebody who misunderstood, or is illiterate.

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Nena
Posts: 2032 | Registered: Wednesday, January 26 2005 08:00
Training ground question in Geneforge Series
Shaper
Member # 5437
Profile #10
Kangaroo, pot calls the kettle.
I got through the training ground with only my Shaper and mid-level creations for protection. This was way before I was far enough along to get eyebeasts and Rotghroths. It took a lot of blessing and no running.
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Attention Criminals! in General
Shaper
Member # 5437
Profile #2
Umm I didn't answer the poll because some of the answers don't apply. I have never mugged anyone or spent any time in jevi/jail.

Edit: I forgot, I was involved in a mugging. When I was seven hit another girl and took her toy :P

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Nena
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Crescent Valley in Blades of Avernum
Shaper
Member # 5437
Profile #2
Do you mean the bracelet in the rock? If so it's all the way to the southwest.

It was interesting that I kept making passes at women. Also Georgia tainted one of my PCs :P
Posts: 2032 | Registered: Wednesday, January 26 2005 08:00
Special Buyers? in Geneforge Series
Shaper
Member # 5437
Profile #1
This topic will tell you about where to sell the research notes and Shaper equipment. Supplies are plentiful; so don't worry about saving piles of stuff.

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Posts: 2032 | Registered: Wednesday, January 26 2005 08:00
The second weekly international spiderweb contest will now begin in General
Shaper
Member # 5437
Profile #4
I would say Ocean Bound. I have never played Homeland, Subterra, or Galactic Core.

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Nena
Posts: 2032 | Registered: Wednesday, January 26 2005 08:00
The International Contest of Spider Games shall now commence! in General
Shaper
Member # 5437
Profile #34
At this point I would have to say BoA. I'll give BoE another try. My trouble with it is not as much quality as it is capability. It is nice to use the arrow keys to move around, uses the character editor within the game instead of having to quit, and most of all the dialogue. I feel I may be missing a lot of information due to being unfamiliar with the way the dialogue works.

It's always seemed to me that BoE quality is as stated above is the hard work of the community and not necessarily the game itself. It has loyal followers that BoA doesn't. The porting tool is terrible, so the BoE are rarely if ever converted. It is inaccurate to compare the two based on number of scenarios in reference to quality.

If I were to advise someone on buying a game from the trilogy based on quantity it would be A3, and if it were to be based on enjoyment I would say A2 or A1. For best graphics I would say GF3, and best story A2. To sum it up, I'll try BoE again. The dialogue is fairly frustrating, but may not be once I get used to it. It also barely runs on my G4 in classic. I had to force quit the character editor as it froze the computer. This is a sign it will soon be unable to run on newer systems.

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Nena
Posts: 2032 | Registered: Wednesday, January 26 2005 08:00
A complete game editor? in Geneforge Series
Shaper
Member # 5437
Profile #8
You would replace an existing dialogue script. Look at the Geneforge 1 and 2 editors to get an example. The training ground is z10testingdlg.txt this would be a good place to put it. What you described is indeed how it works. The player would look at an obelisk or example and have the option to add money, experience, skills, spells, items and so on. Jeff uses “Avernum Script” my knowledge is limited, so I am unable to explain this in great detail. I taught myself with assistance from the community, so I all I know of it is what I see.

You can do far more complicated things than the simple commands of the editor. Look through the files and see what was constructed for the game.
Posts: 2032 | Registered: Wednesday, January 26 2005 08:00
A complete game editor? in Geneforge Series
Shaper
Member # 5437
Profile #6
What was the point of that?
Posts: 2032 | Registered: Wednesday, January 26 2005 08:00
What faction should i join? in Geneforge Series
Shaper
Member # 5437
Profile #1
What do you mean by best? Do you mean least evil, or gain most power.

Least evil would be the Awakened.

Join all of the one by one. Just leave before you do anything major. If you have leadership of at least 12 you can get away with it. If you want to power play it join the Takers last. The one cheat I did was clearallsects as it made it easier to play unallied, and do as I pleased.
Posts: 2032 | Registered: Wednesday, January 26 2005 08:00
What faction should i join? in Geneforge 2
Shaper
Member # 5437
Profile #1
What do you mean by best? Do you mean least evil, or gain most power.

Least evil would be the Awakened.

Join all of the one by one. Just leave before you do anything major. If you have leadership of at least 12 you can get away with it. If you want to power play it join the Takers last. The one cheat I did was clearallsects as it made it easier to play unallied, and do as I pleased.

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Nena
Posts: 2032 | Registered: Wednesday, January 26 2005 08:00
Tips Anyone? in Geneforge Series
Shaper
Member # 5437
Profile #18
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Dolphin: Thanks! Only one problem: I can't find any pillars in Diarazad. Is there one? I checked a FAQ that said the order is: Drayk's Vale, Ancient Crypt, Diarazad, Dry Wastes, Western Wastes, Valley of the Wind, Spirit's City. Is that correct?
Close, it's:
Drayk's vale, Ancient Crypt, Diarazad, Junkyard, Dry Wastes, Western Wastes, Valley of the Wind, and then the one right outside the temple.

Yes there is one in Diarazad. Check around the southwest.

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Posts: 2032 | Registered: Wednesday, January 26 2005 08:00
Tips Anyone? in Geneforge
Shaper
Member # 5437
Profile #18
quote:
Dolphin: Thanks! Only one problem: I can't find any pillars in Diarazad. Is there one? I checked a FAQ that said the order is: Drayk's Vale, Ancient Crypt, Diarazad, Dry Wastes, Western Wastes, Valley of the Wind, Spirit's City. Is that correct?
Close, it's:
Drayk's vale, Ancient Crypt, Diarazad, Junkyard, Dry Wastes, Western Wastes, Valley of the Wind, and then the one right outside the temple.

Yes there is one in Diarazad. Check around the southwest.

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Nena
Posts: 2032 | Registered: Wednesday, January 26 2005 08:00
Do you think there is a Hell? in General
Shaper
Member # 5437
Profile #233
quote:
Originally written by Gizmo:
*A side thought, Dolphin. Would being #2 be a general description of yourself, or at least akin to how you picture God and Jesus?
In some ways the second being relates to my views of God and Jesus. I will tell you briefly my insight on these things, but it is difficult to explain without being too esoteric.

I believe Jesus lived and as stated was an enlightened being. He transcended human form from birth. Due to virtue and strong merit came to this realm to guide other beings. Jesus used the bible to guide the people because it was a text they would listen to. The bible was a good tool for that day and age. When I say God Essence I refer to sensations such as love, compassion, and selflessness. I know to you it would be blasphemy to claim any being could be anything near what Jesus was, but is that not what the bible instructs its decuples to strive for?

The people were cruel to Jesus and were unable to understand because they were not yet ready to move on to higher consciousness. Jesus was God's “son”. But I say that due to the belief that God isn't a bearded man in the clouds, it is a sum total of every soul of every being. Jesus' death was his final step to becoming one with that energy. He led a life of devotion to others, and didn't give his own well being a second's thought. Note that Jesus is not the only being in history to enlighten, and certainly wont be the last.

I have a hard time believing how our creator could condemn us to hell despite a life of caring for others. Jesus taught people to love and except each other. It would be an injustice to turn away a being that chose to follow a different God, but upheld the common laws of decency. There are many Gods and many paths to reach the life giver.

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Nena
Posts: 2032 | Registered: Wednesday, January 26 2005 08:00
A complete game editor? in Geneforge Series
Shaper
Member # 5437
Profile #4
Go into the Geneforge 3 files folder. In there are the saved games and the scripts folder. Scripting ability is competency of lack of to write the language the games works in. You can manipulate the codes in Simpletext, saving as a .txt of course. If you know C than it should be fairly simple to figure out.
Posts: 2032 | Registered: Wednesday, January 26 2005 08:00
Training ground question in Geneforge Series
Shaper
Member # 5437
Profile #1
This is the training of advanced shaper skills. I got through it on higher levels. Come back after you have gotten to Dhonal's Island. Also use a lot of spells. Haste, essences shield, augmentation, protection, so on and so on. Putting many creations between you and the Golems helps, but by the fourth part you'll be fighting Pylons.
Posts: 2032 | Registered: Wednesday, January 26 2005 08:00
A complete game editor? in Geneforge Series
Shaper
Member # 5437
Profile #2
Post a list of the codes for spells, skills, creations, special items, and commonly needed items. My knowledge of scripting is limited, but I'll play around with it if the information is available. If I am unable (very likely) than the information will be useful to someone who can.

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Posts: 2032 | Registered: Wednesday, January 26 2005 08:00
Moderator Board - What are they up to? in General
Shaper
Member # 5437
Profile #18
Prefer twinkies :P

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Nena
Posts: 2032 | Registered: Wednesday, January 26 2005 08:00
Tips Anyone? in Geneforge Series
Shaper
Member # 5437
Profile #14
Remember those ancient stone pillars that give you a stinging sensation when you rub the bare spot? Touch them in the correct order and you will be allowed to enter the Temple in Spirit City. Find the order where you don't get a stinging sensation (it will be leading to the Spirit's City.)

Edit: I didn't post the order so you would have a chance to try it out. I'll tell you if you would rather know.

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Posts: 2032 | Registered: Wednesday, January 26 2005 08:00
Tips Anyone? in Geneforge
Shaper
Member # 5437
Profile #14
Remember those ancient stone pillars that give you a stinging sensation when you rub the bare spot? Touch them in the correct order and you will be allowed to enter the Temple in Spirit City. Find the order where you don't get a stinging sensation (it will be leading to the Spirit's City.)

Edit: I didn't post the order so you would have a chance to try it out. I'll tell you if you would rather know.

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Nena
Posts: 2032 | Registered: Wednesday, January 26 2005 08:00
Do you think there is a Hell? in General
Shaper
Member # 5437
Profile #227
quote:
Originally written by 1001011001000:

So you're saying that the person believed in God and used God's power to perform miracles, but didn't believe in Jesus? This is a strange predicament, because I've never heard of such a case and don't see why anyone could be like this, but I guess anything's possible. Since they believes in God so much to perform miracles, I think they deserve to go to heaven. As soon as they got there, they should have no trouble believing in Jesus. :D
I think you misunderstood the story. Jesus is the one who performed the miracles. I didn't say the being didn't believe in God. I said Jesus used the essence of God that is available to everyone. Please read it over again as there is two people being spoken of, Jesus and the being. I'll clarify further if necessary.

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Nena
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