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Supreme Court Ruling on Restraining Order & Ten Commandments in General
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Kinda far-fetched, isn't it?

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Cracker Jack and the Missing Peanuts in General
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No, but it's like,

Buy me some peanuts and Craker Jacks. Or does someone have the official lyrics?

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Supreme Court Ruling on Restraining Order & Ten Commandments in General
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Originally written by ef:

If I understand you right, Ben, you feel that your version of the faith is the one true path to follow, the 'One Truth', so to speak. Of course, if you are in possession of the 'One Truth', distinguishing between state and religion no longer makes sense. Why not just follow the path?

Problem is that that gives the church the legislative power with the state degenerating into the churches' executive branch. Is that what you would like to happen?

Ideally, that's what it should be. But as long as people continue to disagree about religion, it will not be. And it will be a while before everyone agrees on religion - well, it might not ever happen - so for now people will continue to press against religion in government. So I suppose that's how it has to be.

Note that the last 6 Commandments are guidelines for living a good and righteous life, and people do just use common sense to follow them - for the most part anyway. But the first 4 are the kicker; they are the most important. But they're also the most "religious", so take it however you want.

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In only 139 days. in General
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Heh. Now Dolphin's almost a quarter of the way to the next thousand. That's what it means to be an active member. ;)

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Preprimary Poll in General
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Thuryl - 9
Kel - 6
Aran - 6
Dolphin - 2
Spring - 1
JadeWolf - 1

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I'm a-leaving for a weekend in General
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The way the light is on that first photo, it kinda looks like you're holding an overexposed check or something that you'd just won. :P

Anyway, that looked like fun. Hopefully the elections will be over before you have to leave again.

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TM Banned? in General
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Unless he comes back with a perverse insult against Drakey for banning him. But you'd think he'd know better by now.

It might be a while before he's uncanned, however.

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Worst Spiderweb Game in General
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Yeah, really, the Best Games poll effectively shows the worst games also, and it's already been said quite a few times that Homeland was the worst. But yeah, it would be more interesting to make it the worst Spiderweb game, though that might have already been done too.

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keygens in General
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Minimum security is never enough. People should be honest and not pirate the software.

Yes, 1600.

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RWG in Richard White Games
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Whatever. :/

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Care in the Community in Richard White Games
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RW != maker of Homeland...

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giants in The Exile Trilogy
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Generally, it refers to poison.

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exile 3 troglodyte machine in The Exile Trilogy
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I mean the code itself. Same place?

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Honorifics? in Blades of Exile
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Why sensei? You'd think "Masterful Blades Designer" would sound better. :P

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Supreme Court Ruling on Restraining Order & Ten Commandments in General
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Well, just being religious has nothing to do with making you a good person. Following the Commandments themselves is worth a lot more. Just to tell ya'.

Note, however, that the last 6 commandments are actually a pretty good outline of how people should live their lives anyway, Christian or not, which I also think is pretty cool.

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The best thing about the Internet is... in General
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I don't know about everyone else, but I actually would prefer reading a book that an eBook. But I suppose as future urbanization calls for an increased rationing of paper resources, etc., pretty much all information will be electronical, and yeah, people will carry portable Internet and Library of Congress devices in their pockets.

If you want to know something, click here. And it's not a link to Google. :P

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Cracker Jack and the Missing Peanuts in General
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I haven't had or even consciously seen Cracker Jacks in a long time. But, in response to the question, obviously the popcorn is cheaper than the peanuts, so they have slowly progressed toward more popcorn and less peanuts, hopefully gradual enough that people won't notice.

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Supreme Court Ruling on Restraining Order & Ten Commandments in General
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But it is still an opinion...

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Differences between countries, cultural and otherwise. in General
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You eat what?!?

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Just say no in Richard White Games
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RW? Read forumz?

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RWG in Richard White Games
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Originally written by ben III:

That is, however, the closest member to my member number I've seen mentioned yet.
How about this one, or maybe this one. They are even closer, and they were mentioned.

Now they were. I meant in the course of regular discussion.

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Supreme Court Ruling on Restraining Order & Ten Commandments in General
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Yes, I see the whole point in this. Since the United States guarantees freedom of religion, religious materials don't need to be displayed in federal building because of the showing of religious partiality. It really makes since if you're not a Christian.

But then again, those who are Christians have beliefs that include the willingness to spead and display their religion around the world, and the Ten Commandments is one way to do it. It's not that because the Commandments are displayed in a courtroom, everyone there has to follow them. But really, many of the Commandments are what the Court makes its decisions based on, but I'm not really going to go into that.

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Originally written by ben III:

Well, some people are so eager to take all religion out of government, and it's just not good. They declare to be promoting freedom of religion, yet they press to prevent Christians from displaying a part of their religion. Freedom of religion does not mean removal of religion. Especially since Christianity in the dominant religion in the United States.
Did you know that federal employees are banned from displaying partisan tendencies in the workplace to the point where wearing pins supporting one party's candidate is grounds for disciplinary action and possibly termination? I feel much the same way about religion. What you believe is your own business, but where the state is represented, religion must not be present and must not appear to be present.


Okay, seeing as not everyone in the United States is Christian, I'll have to agree with you there because by agruing this from a viewpoint of a Christian, that is partiality in itself.

So. I was just giving my honest opinions there, which is what the topic asked for anyway. Use them or leave them.

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As soon as we take God out of the country, that'll be our downfall. It's happened every time. And it's actually a good sign that the endtimes are near.
How many times has it happened? This is not a rhetorical question. I want to see examples. Keep in mind that many founding fathers were deists, not Christians. That didn't seem to damn the birth of the United States.


I'd love to refer to the Bible here, but that is a "religious text," so if you want me to go into that, speak up.

As for the founding fathers part, many people have tried to imply that they were much more secular and non-religious than they really were. As a counter-argument here, I'm going to say that many of the founding fathers were Christians, but because of the religious freedom in the United States and opposition by other religious and anti-religious groups, this fact was made much less important than the values of the country itself.

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[b]Not only that, but the Ten Commandments are part of our cultural history. The United States has always embraced Christianity as a religion while still allowing other religions to exist freely. Until now.


Argumentum ad antiquitatem is a logical fallacy, my friend. Tradition does not make right. Slavery has also been part of our cultural history, as have oppression of immigrants and the betrayal and murder of Native Americans. I don't think we have a sterling record in the cultural department.[/b]

I suppose this goes back to whether or not the founding fathers were Christians and could be argued either way based on how that question is interpreted, so I won't go into a long unnecessary rant here.

[Edit: The "Under God" in the Pledge of Allegiance is a Cold War addition to show how different we were from the godless commies, and swearing with "so help me God" is not in the Constitution. In fact, historically several people, notably Quakers, have been permitted to refrain from swearing an oath at all. An "affirmation" that one will uphold one's duties in office is all that is mandated. So if anything, religion and God are metastasizing in American society.]

Godless commies? So you're saying that we were making a statement that we were "better than them" by using a statement that we were more religious? I say, a few people must have seen the light. :P

—Alorael, who can think of many documents far more important to the culture of American law than the Ten Commandments. The Bill of Rights, for one. Maybe then people would notice that pesky First Amendment.

And accordingly so. The Bill of Rights has been cited many more times in certain cases than the Ten Commandments.

But really, why can't we put these things to a vote? If the majority of the American people don't care if the Ten Commandments is displayed in our federal buildings, well, then, majority rules. Part of democracy.


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Worst Spiderweb Game in General
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Originally written by Dolphin.:

Edit: Isn't Homeland a different company as well?
Homeland was made by DragonLore.

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Drakel and Eraserhead in General
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Well, it would have a lot to do with all the fairly constant borderline stuff he posts as well as his willingness to troll.

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Drakel and Eraserhead in General
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No. Drakel was a little kid and EraserHead was some perverted young adult.

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