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Lots! But only if we make it happen. If it were just left alone, nothing would happen. But if we were to work at it, pirates would be a lot more rare. And people who used keygens would get what they deserve. Someone has to stop software piracy. Who's going to do it? The government? Ya, Right! There are tens of millions of people who could make a diffrence out there and I want to be one of them. Someone has to protect the little shareware developer, and if none of you will do it, than I will. Because I know how it feels to not have anyone stand up for me, and it's not cool.

-- Diarog Lethuta

Note: If you would like to help stop piracy, please E-mail me.

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Posts: 91 | Registered: Thursday, June 16 2005 07:00
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A recent conversation from #crackers on IRC:
<Evil_dood> What will we pirate next?
<LoL_smurf> Nothing! I just heard that a bunch of people on a messageboard have joined up against piracy.
<Evil_dood> Oh noes! I repent my evil ways!
* Evil_dood is now known as Good_dood

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Posts: 1798 | Registered: Thursday, October 4 2001 07:00
Law Bringer
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You just fabricated that, Khoth. Real 1337 h4x0r5 don't capitalize or punctuate, and I'm pretty sure some more spelling errors would be in there.

—Alorael, who isn't sure if that's a statement about the nature (or maybe nurture) of people who crack games or about the cracking culture. Tangentially, he wonders if it is politically correct or not to call these people crackers.
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Mongolian Barbeque
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Sure, it would be nice to stop it by just passing around a sign-up sheet and starting some kind of a campaign, but I'm afraid it won't do any good. It'll probably make as much of an impact as all those people who try to stop <fill in the blank> by picketing federal office buildings—i.e., it'll just cause traffic jams and make Mr. John Smith late for work.

I still think my lethal syringe idea would make the most impact in eliminating software piracy. :P

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Posts: 907 | Registered: Monday, July 15 2002 07:00
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Jeff and others could easily make it happen by having a sub in the program check for an open internet connection. If it's there, it could send Jeff the results of search for his games on that pc. Probably also send the email identities found on the pc.

His server then compares that information against his database of known purchasers and if something is wrong it could flash that info back to the client computer which would then warn the user of the piracy and unregister the programs for him.

Would that work? I mean, other than the total invasion of privacy which would drive the ACLU nuts.

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Posts: 4114 | Registered: Monday, April 25 2005 07:00
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Eh, that someone could just temporarily disconnect their Internet, reinstall the games with their illegally copied CD, and reopen their Internet with a higher firewall setting.

The world is nowhere close to eliminating software piracy, especially since a file on a CD is a file on a CD, no matter what CD drive reads it.

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Posts: 3360 | Registered: Friday, June 25 2004 07:00
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As I said, cracks do exisit on some websites for spiderweb games. From what I understand, if Jeff e-mailed whatever company hosts the servers for those websites and makes some reference to some part of the DMCA, depending on what company hosts it they might refuse to host the site anymore, but I could be wrong and not sure if that would be likely to be worth how much time it would take.

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Posts: 409 | Registered: Sunday, March 31 2002 08:00
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Most Web sites that host cracks are located in countries that don't strongly enforce copyright laws. Besides, the easiest place to find cracks isn't necessarily the Web; it's pretty hard to sue every single person who makes a crack publicly available using peer-to-peer software.

But at this point we're getting pretty close to talking about things that the administration would rather we didn't.

[ Sunday, June 26, 2005 15:52: Message edited by: Thuryl ]

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They probably use some sort of a keygen program themselves to find the codes.

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Posts: 1370 | Registered: Thursday, June 10 2004 07:00
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quote:
Originally written by Diarog Lethuta:

We should start an anti-keygen group. We should protest and stuff. Heck, if any of you won't do it, I will.

-- Diarog Lethuta

Yeah, you know. In a world that is falling apart as we speak, millions dying of war, violence, starvation and disease, superpowers sliding into totalitarianism, the environment getting screwed, what we need is a group to protect the starving developers of shareware products.

Get a life.

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quote:
"Yeah, you know. In a world that is falling apart as we speak, millions dying of war, violence, starvation and disease, superpowers sliding into totalitarianism, the environment getting screwed, what we need is a group to protect the starving developers of shareware products.

Get a life." -- Vote Arancaytar

Pardon me for trying to make a diffrence. And, just so you know, I do have a life. A very boring life yes, but a life.

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Ever since I met you so very long ago,
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Do you love me and want to end my pain?
Or do I pursue your love in vain?

"And your not a doctor, but you play one in real life" -Jerry Seinfield

"My power extends far beyond space and time, do not dare oppose me, for my wrath is something to be greatly feared" -Diarog Lethuta: The Tome of Diarog Lethuta, Egypt, 5000 B.C.
Posts: 91 | Registered: Thursday, June 16 2005 07:00
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The fact that we are even on this message board exchanging commentaries and forming pseudo-relationships shows that we all need to get lives.

Free speech saves everyone here, but I don't think insults are called for.

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Posts: 154 | Registered: Monday, June 20 2005 07:00
Nuke and Pave
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quote:
Originally written by Jumpin' Salmon:

Jeff and others could easily make it happen by having a sub in the program check for an open internet connection. If it's there, it could send Jeff the results of search for his games on that pc. Probably also send the email identities found on the pc.

His server then compares that information against his database of known purchasers and if something is wrong it could flash that info back to the client computer which would then warn the user of the piracy and unregister the programs for him.

Would that work? I mean, other than the total invasion of privacy which would drive the ACLU nuts.

*this message sponsored by UnC13 Cr4cK3r*

[EVOL Zeviz]Finally! I think this is the only possible way for us to eliminate the software piracy and all social problems it causes. A person who downloads pirated software today, can go shoplifting tomorrow and from there its only a small step to robbing banks, doing murders for hire and a full life of crime.

This system is the only solution that is guaranteed to work 100%. A week after installing this system we would have all crackers in jail and anybody else would think twice about installing a crack.

However, why stop there? With a simple computer chip implanted in the brain, it would be possible to detect criminal thoughts before they even happen. We could eliminate 100% of the crime by sending potential criminals to "treatment programs" as soon as they think about comitting a crime.

So vote for EVOL, the only party guaranteed to eliminate all crime. [/EVOL Zeviz]

PS I know that you were probably joking, but it's always fun to take these jokes a little farther. :)

PPS As for online registrations, they are essentially the same thing that Jeff is doing. The only difference is that Jeff sends you 5 or 6 random digits and online systems send you 20 random digits. However, both systems are equally hackable, because hackers simply disable the part that asks for random digits.

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Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00
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Yeah, my weak attempt at hacker-speak should have been the clue to all that it was all tongue in cheek. And for my next suggestion...

There would be no piracy, theft, murder, ponzi schemes, etc. if only parents would teach their children respect. It's all the parents fault.

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Posts: 4114 | Registered: Monday, April 25 2005 07:00
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What's wrong with theft? Sometimes people and places are just asking for it. If you don't care enough to at least put a minimum of security in place it's your own fault. Theaters spring to mind in this regard. Who hasn't seen multiple movies on one ticket?

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Posts: 2395 | Registered: Friday, November 2 2001 08:00
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quote:
Originally written by VCH:

What's wrong with theft? Sometimes people and places are just asking for it. If you don't care enough to at least put a minimum of security in place it's your own fault. Theaters spring to mind in this regard. Who hasn't seen multiple movies on one ticket?
*chokes*

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Posts: 1861 | Registered: Friday, February 11 2005 08:00
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quote:
Originally written by VCH:

What's wrong with theft? Sometimes people and places are just asking for it. If you don't care enough to at least put a minimum of security in place it's your own fault. Theaters spring to mind in this regard. Who hasn't seen multiple movies on one ticket?
Well, there's an id-shaped attitude if I've ever seen one. I hope you're trying to stir the pot, because theft in generally considered an issue of morals. I shouldn't have to worry about someone else taking my stuff if I leave it unattended; I have a right to that property, and if someone steals it, they are infringing on my rights to my property. Boo. Theft.

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Posts: 154 | Registered: Monday, June 20 2005 07:00
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Minimum security is never enough. People should be honest and not pirate the software.

Yes, 1600.

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Mongolian Barbeque
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quote:
Originally written by VCH:

Who hasn't seen multiple movies on one ticket?
Not I!

<Icshi grabs his lapels, raises his head disdainfully, and smiles smugly>

...Of course, this may have something to do with the fact that there's seldom more than one movie playing at any given time that he'd like to see. And he alwaze goze witt hiz mummie, who prevents him from doing such naughtyboy things...

[ Tuesday, June 28, 2005 16:21: Message edited by: Icshi ]

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Posts: 907 | Registered: Monday, July 15 2002 07:00
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It figures that gangsta boy would fess up to the movie gag.

We have a nice little trick with temptation in these parts that so far has failed to get any takers.

During hunting season it is great fun to park my truck at the end of a logging road, unlocked, with assorted goodies inside.

Invariably someone comes around looking for a good hunting spot, and walks around my truck looking inside. Then they look up and glance around at the woods surrounding them and walk away. Maybe it was the flash of the scope that spooks them, but I prefer to think that they were merely checking on my welfare, and not seeing me in the truck decided to leave and go hunt somewhere else.

It's always a good rule of thumb to assume that your theft is being watched.

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Posts: 4114 | Registered: Monday, April 25 2005 07:00
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The minimum security is called "legal agreements". Ask a "corporate lawyer".

You also have to consider that people are less likely to buy something if they believe it would infringe their privacy, or if it has annoying 'rules', like the 1-computer crud all the overpricing companies are brainwashing with product activation. The most product activation can do is lessen customers, not increase revenue, since it pisses them off.

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Posts: 612 | Registered: Saturday, October 13 2001 07:00
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EDIT: Was refeering to this:
quote:
Orginally written by Dialog Lethuta
We should start an anti-keygen group. We should protest and stuff. Heck, if any of you won't do it, I will.

-- Diarog Lethuta

It would stirr up a bunch of politicans or more likely the press. Either way would result in a major loss of respect to the politicans since they are most likely too old to understand what they are throwing themself into.

The first requisitive to cease a problem is knowing how it works, if you do, think of a solution. I am afraid that stopping the production of Key Generators will be impossible since there are to many crackers making them, too large demand for it (Well, a silent demand for it.) and too few parents knowing how to raise their kids not to use Key Generators.

[ Wednesday, June 29, 2005 08:16: Message edited by: Eagle, the author soul ]

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