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The Bad Get Polling! in Blades of Avernum
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I know that you sent me a PM. I like to respond to comments in bundles, and no one else has sent any sort of notes at all since the most recent version went up.

Meh, I'll reply to it now.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
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The Bad Get Polling! in Blades of Avernum
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quote:
Originally written by Spookee Salmon:

What interests me is that everyone is so careful to only release good scenarios. BoE has quite a few pieces of crap, and the author not only learned from the mechanical aspect of the process, but by the critical reviews of the the work.

So, by all means work on those scenarios, and finish them. Once released, they can only make you a better designer. Or kill you. Either's possible.

Moreover, even if your scenario is really good, most people are going to call it a piece of crap anyway. By all means, make bad scenarios: most of the philistines here won't be able to tell the difference anyway. :P

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever
Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Wealth. in General
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quote:
Originally written by Emperor Tullegolar:

Should we have paid Einstein and those others for the future developments that would have been built upon their discoveries? Should we pay them retroactively? (...) What does this have to do with the economy anyway?
quote:
Originally written by Kelandon:

Did you just ask what pay rate has to do with the economy?
quote:
Originally written by Emperor Tullegolar:

No.
Mmm-hmm.

Yeah, I'm done here. You've stopped responding to my posts, anyway. Just mind the CoC, and I won't bother you anymore.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever
Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
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Did you just ask what pay rate has to do with the economy?

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever
Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
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quote:
Originally written by Emperor Tullegolar:

Kelandon: Your giving luck a bigger role than it deserves. Are you saying that people like Bill Gates, Rockefeller and the like all lucked out?
You may be doing fine in college, but if you don't start learning the difference between "your" and "you're," I might just have to lay the grammatical smack-down. :P

I'm not saying that these people lucked out. I'm saying that they were the right people (inherent merit) in the right place at the right time (luck). I believe that Rockefeller was brilliant. I don't believe that dozens of others who didn't make as much money as he did weren't equally brilliant.

The role that I'm assigning to luck is this: personal characteristics alone do nothing. Personal characteristics combined with fortuitous circumstances lead people to success (however defined).

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No, they saw an opportunity (intelligence),
And that's where your analysis goes wrong. Seeing an opportunity requires two things: the ability to see it (intelligence, perhaps) and the opportunity existing. You seem immune to the fact that people are given different opportunities.

I suppose my problem with your analysis is this: you're trying to judge people from their outcomes. The fact that one person ends up rich in a laissez-faire capitalist system and another ends up poor in the same system doesn't always mean that the rich guy is better ("stronger") than the poor guy. Surely you can agree with that statement, at least.

quote:
Originally written by Kitana:

What is it with you and rationality? And wanting to know things? Jesus.
Psshh, you're one to talk. :P

EDIT: *sigh* Alec.

[ Monday, October 30, 2006 19:53: Message edited by: Kelandon ]

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever
Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
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quote:
Originally written by Emperor Tullegolar:

Kelandon/Ephesos: I not so much saying that luck is a quality of the strong. Either the strong or weak can be lucky. Luck is, rather, a random variable that exists in any form of economy that one can argue for or against. I was merely acknowledging it's role. My definitions remain the same, what makes you say they change?
This didn't address the issue at all. Laissez-faire capitalism rewards the inherently meritorious who happen to be lucky (as well as a fair number of slouches who also happen to be lucky). You have admitted this. This completely destroys your assertion before that laissez-faire capitalism is justified because it rewards the inherently meritorious, because it doesn't.

This means that you need either to reconcile the above facts somehow or to give another justification for laissez-faire capitalism.

[ Monday, October 30, 2006 06:59: Message edited by: Kelandon ]

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever
Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Is this possible? in Blades of Avernum Editor
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It does. That's what LP does.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever
Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Wealth. in General
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I'm stuck on one point: you've admitted that luck is factor in whether people succeed in a laissez-faire capitalist system (what you've advocated) or not. You've also claimed that laissez-faire capitalism rewards the "strong" and doesn't reward the "weak."

Your definition of "strong" clearly includes not only charismatic, ambitious, and intelligent, but also lucky. Do you consider lucky to be an inherent quality, or do you admit that "strong" is not an inherent quality?

It's rather different to say that laissez-faire capitalism is justified because it rewards the inherently best individuals than it is to say that it is justified because it rewards the fortunate.

[ Sunday, October 29, 2006 21:08: Message edited by: Kelandon ]

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
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Xeon, The Beginning in General
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Post back here when you have screenshots. Until then, any discussion is probably quite premature.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever
Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Xeon, The Beginning in General
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If you want to create a game that has some elements of Avernum and GF, use BoA. You can't quite get the GF engine, but you can definitely use GF graphics, and you won't actually be committing an illegal act, nor will you have to go through the effort of creating your own game engine, which is quite a hassle in itself.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever
Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Ice cream... in General
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Favorite Ice Cream flavor? Chocolate.
Length of Major Sleep? Last night was 9 hours, and that was almost certainly the longest I've had in a long time.
Favorite Arcade Game? The Ambrosia remakes of classics. Apeiron, maybe.
Favorite movie made from a cartoon? Meh.
Favorite place to nap? On someone else's bed.
Favorite print cartoon? Get Fuzzy and Garfield (tie).
Do you eat ice-cream during a cold weather? I'll eat ice cream whenever you give it to me.
Favorite hour of the DAY to sleep? I get drowsy around 2 or 3 in the afternoon.
Favorite Age? Meaning what was the year of your life that you enjoyed the most. Meh.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever
Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Wealth. in General
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quote:
Originally written by Emperor Tullegolar:

Those on the bottom are under compensated, but rightly so as they are less skilled than those that makes the big bucks. We pay fast food employees less than they can live on, yet they still take the jobs. Why?
Because they were born poor, came from a broken home, moved around so much that they hardly had the opportunity to go to school, and started working full-time at age 14 to support their deadbeat parents. Alternatively, because they moved here from Mexico and have to work two jobs in order to support their entire extended family back home, so they never had time even to go to trade school, nor do they speak enough English to take advantage of their inherent talents and unbelievable work ethic. It's not what they would've chosen had they been given the same opportunities as those who were born middle-class or wealthier in America.

They probably have less complex skills and specialized learning than people who make more money than they do, but that doesn't mean that they are inherently inferior. I worked with some reasonably bright people when I worked in fast food (along with, of course, my fair share of morons). They were markedly less educated than most people I deal with, but that reflected their life circumstances more than it did their innate qualities. Indeed, they were not lazy or unambitious, for in order to improve their lots in life they did back-breaking labor in conditions that would've made weaker persons retch.

They were certainly no more "strong" or "weak" than anyone else, unless you are simply using those terms as synonymous with "rich" and "poor," respectively, which now appears to be the case.

[ Sunday, October 29, 2006 08:04: Message edited by: Kelandon ]

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever
Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Is this possible? in Blades of Avernum Editor
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By the way, the experience to which we're referring when we mention that there's a rule in play here is from BoE. There was a BoE scenario Corporeus (by the illustrious TM) that told the player in the readme that one should replace some of the default graphics within a BoE file in order to play the scenario. Also, TM put a MIDI in the download for background music. Spidweb refused to host it, partly because of changing the default files, and partly because of the MIDI.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever
Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Libertarianism - yay or nay? in General
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Dear lord. What is the point of making money if there's nothing to do with it? Accumulating wealth in a society that has no art or entertainment is entirely pointless: you can roll in your riches, but you can't watch a movie, listen to music, or even read a book.

Money is not good for its own sake. Money is good for the sake of allowing people to do fun things.

Besides, even if you disagree with the aforementioned, it is indisputable that workers work better when given occasional luxuries, including access to the arts, and some amount of time off. Society is more productive with art than without.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever
Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Serviles! in Geneforge Series
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As a hint, I think it would involve going into gf3itemschars.txt and replacing a creature that you can shape with a servile. (That is, swap in servile stats in place of a fyora or a thahd or some other creation.)

The exact details, though, I leave to you, since I haven't actually done it myself.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever
Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Is this possible? in Blades of Avernum Editor
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LP doesn't require you to modify default graphic files. It accomplishes its default-modifying via a cmg file on a Mac (which doesn't change anything among the default files), and it happens to mention that one can create the same effect via modifying default graphic files on Windows.

If you can manage to modify default graphics without touching the default graphic files, you're fine. Spidweb is just worried about people permanently damaging their games.

[ Saturday, October 28, 2006 13:11: Message edited by: Kelandon ]

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever
Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Fresh meat for the Cultists, or, goodbye sunshine in Richard White Games
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quote:
Originally written by Thuryl:

Aw, dammit. Who had to go and vote "Pan"? :(
Traitors are in our midst. Speak not openly. The peanut walks at midnight! Roving moiety! Blue?!

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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Future of Geneforge in Geneforge Series
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For the record: making some effort at reasonable spelling and grammar is generally considered good manners around here. A typo or two is fine. A grammatical error or two may also be fine. Writing in chatspeak is not.

This thread probably has little point, because Spiderweb is almost certain not to go in a particularly different direction than it has in the past few games (by which I mean multi-player, console-based, something like that). Basically, what Stareye said earlier in this thread is true.

I'm tempted to lock this based solely on that, but meh. It's fine to dream, as long as you know that you're dreaming.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
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Spiders of all ages... in General
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quote:
Originally written by Zeviz:

How many languages are you familiar with?
I happen to know a few common words and phrases in Russian, because I tried to teach it to myself once. I have some familiarity with Spanish, Latin, Greek, German, and Polish, although I can speak none particularly well.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever
Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Help: Mac user .cmg files? in Blades of Avernum Editor
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I've heard good things about ResFool.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever
Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Libertarianism - yay or nay? in General
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quote:
Originally written by Emperor Tullegolar:

Oh, so suddenly your a pillar of the CoC, are you?
I am a mod, although not of General, you doofus. Yes, I said it! And I'll said it again! Doofus! Doofus doofus doofus! :P

Does anyone actually use the word "doofus" seriously? I certainly don't. I was kidding, in case you didn't get it.

EDIT: By the way, personal attacks are against the CoC. Claiming that others have attacked you in the past doesn't serve as an excuse to attack others.

[ Thursday, October 26, 2006 22:01: Message edited by: Kelandon ]

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
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Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
The Bad Get Polling! in Blades of Avernum
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quote:
Originally written by Nioca:

The reason why your villains didn't do so well is because your scenarios don't revolve around the scenario's villain. Which, if you really look at it, is quite an achievement.
Neither do my scenarios, I think — except maybe LP, whose villain is probably my favorite of the villains I've created. Still, I don't think I've written a really memorable villain in a scenario.

That's one of the things I'd like to try at some point, perhaps in a short scenario.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever
Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Libertarianism - yay or nay? in General
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quote:
Originally written by Emperor Tullegolar:

You obviously don't know anything about economics.
This is the sort of reply that is deemed unacceptable. If you take out this sentence, your post is okay, but attacking the person instead of the argument is against the standards of these boards. (Note that Thuryl referred to your arguments as "patent nonsense," not you — he's been around a long time and has gotten pretty good at this.)

If you get the feeling that I'm doing due diligence by explaining the rules to you in exacting detail in order to make a more convincing argument in favor of banning later when you break them again, you're right.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
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Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Spiders of all ages... in General
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Tace, vulgaris. :P

[ Thursday, October 26, 2006 20:46: Message edited by: Kelandon ]

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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