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State of Chaos in Blades of Avernum Editor
Kelandon
Off With Their Heads
Member # 4045
 written Saturday, September 23 2006 16:45 Profile Homepage #4
quote:
Originally written by Nioca:

By the way, Kel, those were truncated message_dialog calls. That's not how they actually appear in the script. ;)
You mean you inserted three errors into the script and then asked us to find errors? :P

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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State of Chaos in Blades of Avernum Editor
Kelandon
Off With Their Heads
Member # 4045
 written Saturday, September 23 2006 15:54 Profile Homepage #2
beginstate 53;

if ((get_flag(4,9) == 250) && (is_combat() == 0)) {
reset_dialog();
add_dialog_str(0,"Yet again, you attempt to approach this lever. It appears that...",0);
add_dialog_str(1,"What do you want to do?",0);
add_dialog_choice(0,"Pull the lever.");
add_dialog_choice(1,"Back away slowly.");
choice = run_dialog(0);
if (choice == 1) {
if (get_flag(4,5) < 5) {
set_terrain(37,46,392);
set_terrain(41,46,392);
set_terrain(37,42,392);
set_terrain(41,42,392);
set_flag(4,5,1);
flip_terrain(29,42);
play_sound(94);
pause(2);
flip_terrain(29,42);
play_sound(94);
********************message_dialog("When you pull this lever, you hear...");
}
if (get_flag(4,5) == 125) {
set_flag(4,5,250);
flip_terrain(29,42);
play_sound(94);
pause(2);
flip_terrain(29,42);
play_sound(94);
pause(3);
play_sound(162);
************************message_dialog("When you pull this lever, you hear...");
}
if (get_flag(4,5) == 250) {
flip_terrain(29,42);
play_sound(94);
pause(2);
flip_terrain(29,42);
play_sound(94);
print_str_color("Nothing seems to happen.",3); }
}
}

if (get_flag(4,9) == 0) {
************************message_dialog("As you approach the lever, you hear a rustling noise from...");[/b]
set_terrain(26,42,0);
set_terrain(27,43,0);
set_terrain(26,44,0);
set_terrain(26,45,0);
set_terrain(28,46,0);
set_terrain(30,46,0);
set_terrain(29,45,0);
set_terrain(29,44,0);
set_terrain(30,44,0);
set_terrain(31,43,0);
set_terrain(32,45,0);
activate_hidden_group(3);
set_flag(4,9,250); }


[ Saturday, September 23, 2006 15:57: Message edited by: Kelandon ]

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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Happy Beginning of Ramadan in General
Kelandon
Off With Their Heads
Member # 4045
 written Saturday, September 23 2006 15:51 Profile Homepage #4
That pun works much better if the final syllable of "Ramadan" and the first syllable of "Daniel" are the same in your dialect of English. Or if you utterly butcher the pronunciation of "Ramadan."

[ Saturday, September 23, 2006 17:11: Message edited by: Kelandon ]

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever
Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
What do you look for in a scenario? in Blades of Avernum
Kelandon
Off With Their Heads
Member # 4045
 written Saturday, September 23 2006 10:01 Profile Homepage #29
I think I just said that a plot-only scenario would be hard to pull off for very long. The plot is the foundation, but without walls and a roof, you still don't have much of a house.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever
Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
September BoA Chat in Blades of Avernum Editor
Kelandon
Off With Their Heads
Member # 4045
 written Thursday, September 21 2006 22:22 Profile Homepage #8
I could probably make it on a weekday evening. I could also make it were it to start a little later on Saturday.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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help with "The Canterbury Tales" in General
Kelandon
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Member # 4045
 written Tuesday, September 19 2006 20:06 Profile Homepage #4
I also recommend, come to think of it, the Norton Critical Edition. The one for the Canterbury Tales has extensive glosses along the side to make the language more comprehensible.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever
Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
September BoA Chat in Blades of Avernum Editor
Kelandon
Off With Their Heads
Member # 4045
 written Tuesday, September 19 2006 20:02 Profile Homepage #1
I'll be working 9-5 that day, so I won't be able to get there until it's well over, probably.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever
Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
The Spiderweb Art Movement. in General
Kelandon
Off With Their Heads
Member # 4045
 written Tuesday, September 19 2006 15:40 Profile Homepage #24
Alec: I'm surprised that you recognized that I employed the form of the sonnet for a purpose but failed to recognize that I employed mock-archaic language for the same purpose. If your complaint is that you have some sort of visceral revulsion to anything even remotely old, including the second-person singular, then you're just being silly, because that's there for a purpose that you clearly recognize as legitimate in another context.

If your complaint is that it's an anti-sonnet in pretty much the same way as every other anti-sonnet ever written (including one or two of Shakespeare's own), well, that's probably true, but the poem exists mostly to get a cheap laugh, and it's usually successful at least in that.

[ Tuesday, September 19, 2006 15:41: Message edited by: Kelandon ]

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever
Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
help with "The Canterbury Tales" in General
Kelandon
Off With Their Heads
Member # 4045
 written Tuesday, September 19 2006 15:18 Profile Homepage #1
This has a not entirely faithful translation side-by-side with the original and hyperlinked definitions for the least familiar words in Middle English.

It takes some getting used to, but it's not really that hard after a while. Probably the first barrier to overcome is the fact that editors don't modernize the spelling the way they do with, say, Shakespeare. A word will appear that still exists and is pronounced essentially the same way now ("virtue") but will have an archaic spelling ("virtu"). Reading the text aloud helps with this, and once you get that, the text becomes far easier to understand.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever
Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Shapers keeping secrets in Geneforge Series
Kelandon
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Member # 4045
 written Tuesday, September 19 2006 08:47 Profile Homepage #115
"Industry was also the largest source of R&D funding, paying for 63 percent of all R&D."
Need I remind you that there is a difference between "R&D" and "basic research"? Of course industry does most of the R&D. I said that already. That's not what one would call normal science, though.

Look, I do some R&D work myself. I work for a test-prep company, and I take the SAT every time it's offered. Then I send in a report about how well the techniques that we teach worked on the test. In response to my reports, the people who write our materials make slight adjustments in order to match the test better. That's R&D, but it'd be hard to call that "science."

EDIT: I guess this discussion is over. I win in the end. :P

[ Tuesday, September 19, 2006 08:49: Message edited by: Kelandon ]

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever
Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
What do you look for in a scenario? in Blades of Avernum
Kelandon
Off With Their Heads
Member # 4045
 written Tuesday, September 19 2006 08:25 Profile Homepage #16
quote:
Originally written by Imban:

Johnny Favourite is possibly the only successful "plot-only" scenario that I can think of, and it received a moderate reception at best.
It was also pretty short. Short plot-only scenarios are possible, definitely. Making it longer, well, no one has tried that yet.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever
Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Shapers keeping secrets in Geneforge Series
Kelandon
Off With Their Heads
Member # 4045
 written Tuesday, September 19 2006 07:57 Profile Homepage #113
quote:
Originally written by Emperor Tullegolar:

Yes, it is from the same site.
I didn't see that statistic. Could you provide a link to the page on which it appears and a description of where on the page to find it?
quote:
Originally written by Emperor Tullegolar:

By the way, I follow your rules. If I want to be arrogant, that is my business.
quote:
Originally written in the CoC:
+ Any communication that is intended to harass, belittle, humiliate, threaten or cause embarrassment to a fellow member.
The traditional interpretation of this rule is that being nasty and unpleasant constitutes an infraction.

[ Tuesday, September 19, 2006 08:01: Message edited by: Kelandon ]

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever
Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Shapers keeping secrets in Geneforge Series
Kelandon
Off With Their Heads
Member # 4045
 written Tuesday, September 19 2006 07:09 Profile Homepage #111
quote:
Originally written by Emperor Tullegolar:

While on one hand, I think that the fact that 63% of all research being paid for by industry is good enough to conclude that industry pays for most research.
This is not a statistic that I quoted, and you have not mentioned it before. Where does it come from? The same site?

quote:
*i: Your whining really annoys me. Cut it out please.
He's an admin. You would do well to treat him with some respect.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever
Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Sex! Yay! in General
Kelandon
Off With Their Heads
Member # 4045
 written Tuesday, September 19 2006 07:06 Profile Homepage #21
I think that we can all agree that it's wrong to try to force someone not to be gay. I don't think that's even in question here.

I think we all are also aware that homosexual people experience pressure — whether direct intolerance or just a sense of "societal pressure" — to act more straight. Sometimes this pressure is more self-imposed than not, and sometimes it is very much the result of parental influence or the like. This pressure is generally bad.

I'm fairly certain that we can all agree that mature adults should have the right to make their own decisions about their sexuality: how or even if to express it, with whom, etc.

If all of these are taken as given (if anyone objects, speak up), then the question that remains is if it is ever healthy or appropriate for a person to want to change from gay to straight or the other way around. (Believe it or not, some girls actually do feel pressure to be bisexual, to do things with other girls.)

Clearly it is not healthy if that desire to change stems from external pressure. I'd say that it's also not healthy if that desire to change comes from the belief that being gay is morally wrong, although that may be up for debate. I don't know of any other reason that a person would want to change in that way, although that's not to say that there can't possibly be any.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever
Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
The Spiderweb Art Movement. in General
Kelandon
Off With Their Heads
Member # 4045
 written Monday, September 18 2006 21:41 Profile Homepage #9
I wrote this six years ago. It's a sonnet. I think I've posted it before. Most people don't get it when they first read it.

quote:
Shall I compare thee to a heap of dung?
Thou art more pungent than a pile of crap
Though never ‘fore hath hymns to crap been sung
Art not thou like a praiseworthy mishap?
Or shall I lie and call thee beautiful
For thou art like the rose, the sun, the moon
Thy petals are at night apart spread full
And ‘tween thy buds a heav’nly body croons
Perhaps thou mightst be call’d a stimulant
Without thy loving touch and sweet embrace
Man’s wit, his principal part, downward slant
And limp and lifeless doth the ground it face
Thou art a falsely love, a not true friend
Thy form shall be remade ‘til time doth end


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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever
Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
What do you look for in a scenario? in Blades of Avernum
Kelandon
Off With Their Heads
Member # 4045
 written Monday, September 18 2006 21:26 Profile Homepage #11
The default BoA spells kinda suck when taken in the context of what the engine can do. BoA has an enormous amount of possibility for special spells, which we've just begun to scratch the surface of. Canopy is one interpretation of what one can do with them. Exodus is another.

Plot is probably the most important scenario element. Without a decent plot, a scenario can only be mediocre at best.

Challenges (puzzles/combat) are probably next. A scenario can survive without them, but it's hard to maintain a pure-plot scenario for very long (and I'm not sure that anyone has ever done it).

Dazzle comes next, either outstanding writing or technical trickery. This is the difference between 8-range scenarios and 9-range scenarios, as far as I'm concerned (speaking in CSR terms); 8-range scenarios are good, functional, and fun, but not astonishing, whereas 9-range scenarios make you say "wow" at several points.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever
Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Shapers keeping secrets in Geneforge Series
Kelandon
Off With Their Heads
Member # 4045
 written Monday, September 18 2006 21:07 Profile Homepage #108
quote:
Originally written by Emperor Tullegolar:

The matter at hand is funding for research, remember?
And government funds the institutions that do most of the research. I'm not sure how I can be more clear than this. Who does the research? Colleges and universities. Where do they get their money? The government. Thus, the government funds the research.

[ Monday, September 18, 2006 21:09: Message edited by: Kelandon ]

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever
Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Shapers keeping secrets in Geneforge Series
Kelandon
Off With Their Heads
Member # 4045
 written Monday, September 18 2006 17:32 Profile Homepage #105
quote:
Originally written by Emperor Tullegolar:

Uh, so which is it? Since you seem to be fine with saying both do the majority, it seems I'm going to have to draw my own conclusion. You statistics clearly state that industry does the most R&D and it also puts the most money towards it. Industry wins, I told you.
It would help if you finished reading the sentence, you doofus.
quote:
Originally written by Kelandon:

industry does the majority (68%) of R&D in the U.S., but universities and colleges did 55% of all basic research in the U.S. (which is probably what we're talking about when we talk about "science").
There is a difference between "R&D" as defined by the NSF and "basic research" as defined by the NSF. Basic research more resembles what one would think of as traditional scientific inquiry.

[ Monday, September 18, 2006 17:34: Message edited by: Kelandon ]

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever
Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Shapers keeping secrets in Geneforge Series
Kelandon
Off With Their Heads
Member # 4045
 written Monday, September 18 2006 14:50 Profile Homepage #103
quote:
Originally written by Student of Trinity:

I'm funded from taxes levied by a liberal democracy, mostly on its broad middle class. So is most science, except for pharmaceuticals; and so it has been for a couple of centuries or so.
This statement interested me, because I've heard people say this, and I've heard people say the opposite, neither ever providing statistics. This essentially is two statistical statements: first, tax comes mostly from the middle class, and second, most science is funded by the government.

Here's the statistics behind the first one. There's a page on irs.gov that has a whole bunch of tax statistics from as recently as 2003. (Click on the first "All Returns" category to get the file I'm talking about. In the left-most column of the spreadsheet, it gives income ranges, and in the right-most column, it gives total taxation from that range.) Apparently, more than half of all tax in the U.S. (a whopping 62%) comes from people between the income levels of $50,000 and $500,000. Indeed, 46% comes from people between the income levels of $50,000 and $200,000, which is pretty much still in the middle class range. The very rich ($1,000,000 or higher) pay a total of around 18% of all tax.

Thus, it's pretty fair to say that most tax income comes from the middle class (and another good chunk from the lower end of the upper class).

Note here that we're talking about personal income tax alone, not sales tax, business taxes, or anything like that. However, according to this page, the overwhelming share of the tax revenue that the federal government gets comes from individual income tax and only a small chunk from businesses and other things.

Next issue: is science largely funded by the government? According to nsf.gov's page on the subject, industry does the majority (68%) of R&D in the U.S., but universities and colleges did 55% of all basic research in the U.S. (which is probably what we're talking about when we talk about "science"). According to this page, 64% of all university and college funding for R&D comes from the federal government, and presumably that applies as much or more to basic research, too.

In other words, it is also pretty fair to say that most science in the present-day U.S. is funded by the government, which gets most of its taxes from the middle class and the moderately (not extremely) wealthy.

[ Monday, September 18, 2006 14:54: Message edited by: Kelandon ]

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
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NM in Geneforge Series
Kelandon
Off With Their Heads
Member # 4045
 written Monday, September 18 2006 12:43 Profile Homepage #2
Apparently he changed his mind and edited out whatever it was that he posted. It's probably better that way.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever
Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Soon there will be no need to do this in General
Kelandon
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Member # 4045
 written Monday, September 18 2006 06:33 Profile Homepage #15
Hmm. It's been a while since the release of the last SW game, and it's also been a while since a major Blades event. Both of those are coming up pretty soon (contest in November, GF4 in probably November or December), so the pace will probably pick up.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever
Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Graphic Request in Blades of Avernum
Kelandon
Off With Their Heads
Member # 4045
 written Monday, September 18 2006 06:22 Profile Homepage #5
My site has a link to her site (and to every other known BoA site).

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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Beta Call for Exodus in Blades of Avernum
Kelandon
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Member # 4045
 written Sunday, September 17 2006 19:40 Profile Homepage #114
quote:
Originally written by Elninho:

All quests through the Lava Ocean have been completed. The guy's still missing, has been absent from all the cutscenes that have taken place, and is missing from the next camp.
Aha! I unified the character IDs for identical characters in different towns. If he's not showing up at the next camp, either, you must have killed him at some point. How did you pull that off without causing hell?

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever
Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Graphics please... in Blades of Avernum
Kelandon
Off With Their Heads
Member # 4045
 written Sunday, September 17 2006 18:59 Profile Homepage #1
quote:
Originally written by Sigh xx:

I really want a topless male child.
I have nothing constructive to add. This is just too quotable.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever
Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00

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