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It is a real problem which needs to be addressed candidly.

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But then, being as how you and Shakespeare share a fetish for a language in which the only thing assigned any poetic merit was form and austerity, I can see where the two of us might disagree on that.

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Originally written by The Creator:

Uh, Kel? You seem to be aswering a different statement than the one TM made. He said the women have the control, but they are selling their dignity for it. I would agree with TM that this is a form of low grade whoredom.

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F. Scott Fitzgerald, should be shot by Shakespeare.

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Apart from the fact that your misuse of commas does little to grant you credentials of literary criticism, I'm not sure how melodramatic and nonsensical fru-fru dramaticism with overtones of traditional morality and metaphors as opaque and open as your mother's legs actually beats masterfully crafted writing with seemless metaphor and pertinent comments about the market economy.

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To those of you who are angry a TM's attempt to tell you what you can and cannot wear: He is not demanding anything. He is issuing a warning. I heard one guy sum it up very well.

"If you're not in business, don't advertise."

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Not much is left to guess at. From this, the conclusion can be drawn that an attractive woman wearing a bikini is wearing an outfit which is pleasurable to men.
Yes, but it's a long way from there to say that she's wearing it because it's pleasurable to men. I think we had a certified girl dispute this point.

[F]emales are now wholeheartedly encouraged to display more skin.
Again, I think this generalization is far too broad. Some women describe feeling this suggestion from mass culture; some don't.

Furthermore, women are being relegated to objects.
In general? I think this is an even broader, even less valid generalization. I think women are less objectified now than they ever have been in the past; women used to be property.

She is deigning to wear an outfit which she KNOWS will have an effect on the men around her- halter tops are not worn for comfort, nor are bikinis, nor are thongs.
But again, knowing that wearing certain clothing will have an effect on others is far removed from wearing that clothing specifically in order to have that effect. I know that when I wear my NCS Volleyball shirt, others will think that I am a volleyball player, but I generally wear that shirt for the reason that I have no other clean shirts to wear.

If they are worn to get a rise out of men, it is women selling their dignities for palpable control, which is akin to selling one's self for intercourse for capital. In other words, whoredom.
Woah, woah, slow down there. Even if a woman wears something to provoke a response in men (and I recognize that some do, don't get me wrong), she may be using it to control them, not because they force her to please them. The control runs at least as much the other way as you're suggesting.

And being controlled does not equal being a whore.

(For instance, statistics report that most women do not find pleasure in sex, especially after repeated instances.)
Wow. NO. As emphatically as I can say it, NO. Women do get pleasure out of sex, at least when their partners are remotely competent. If women didn't get pleasure out of sex, lesbians wouldn't ever have sex at all, but they do.

(Posting on SW is a great way to advertise one's own impotency.)
The number of people here with significant others suggests otherwise.

Women as sexual objects has dragged me to a level where I cannot see any woman beyond her sexual potency-
As others have pointed out before me, your hangups are not necessarily anyone else's. I have no trouble seeing women as having many aspects to them, including a sexual one.

If you think that pornography leaves you unphased and that faceless sex and that women pandering into demands
I'm sorry, were we talking about Phaedra? Out of proportion, just slightly?

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Originally written by Le Martyre de la Terreur:

[T]he 60s brought you playboy, flavored douches and an end to intimacy.

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Perhaps I'm being overly sensitive, but isn't it somewhat inconsiderate to single out the Vodou religion for mockery?

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Is anybody actually offended by seeing a woman in a bikini?

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Yes.

Sexism is one of a few issues that genuinely disturbs and angers me. Seeing it in my backyard irritates me. Having it denied angers me. Being laughed at it infuriates me.

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I appreciate every ported BoE scenario (more please!). Did you choose it for its shortness? Did Alec made also scenarios whit a plot?

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Originally written by Student of Trinity:

So how likely is it that they are there, but happen to be no further advanced than we? If technological civilizations last many millions of years on average, so that we are just beginning, then it would be an incredible fluke that the Centaurans happened to be just as young. It would be like picking two random citizens and getting two newborns, only much more so.

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