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Originally written by Le Martyre de la Terreur:

My real invective is much more vague.

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Originally written by imho:

oh, btw, without time, existance is impossible.
time is the very essence of everything that existes.

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Originally written by Levitating Netherlander:

This debate over the alleged sexual habits of a fictional character is growing decreasingly hilarious and increasingly unsettling.

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Originally written by Le Martyre de la Terreur:

So wait a second- the fact that Pheadra represents corporate whoredom for the purpose of linking meritocracy with larger breasts

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Originally written by Le Martyre de la Terreur:

"Interesting. So you see that image, think "SLUT!", and then cease to consider her personality? Who's being chauvinistic here?"

Way to go out of context. You're writing a scenario for angsty teenagers (and that ain't namecalling in the slightest). Including "steel bikini girl" is a good way to have women be objectified some more- because, ya know, she can't apparently walk around *without* that. She never "uses" it, and there's plenty of decent cloaks to wear. I mean, does she have the slightest bit of self-respect? (And you don't put any effort into characterizing her- which makes this seem like an ex-facto argument at best.)

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Originally written by Le Martyre de la Terreur:

"Easss is a drakon. Ethass, on the other hand, is one of my characters. [Razz]"
You mean cliches borne from authors' insecurities now have names? Fascinating.

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Originally written by Le Martyre de la Terreur:

"She's capable and attractive. I think that her intelligence is a more significant (albeit more subtle) aspect of her character than her sexuality. It's not something I added in afterwards -- it was what I started with. But she's an adventurer, which means she's spent most of her life living out of taverns and drinking with the boys. So of course she dresses like that. The important thing is that she's not consumed by it."
... This is a dime-a-dozen leftist fallacy. Nevermind the fact that she becomes a whore to perform better at her job. Maybe Miss Spears doesn't let her sexuality consume her. Maybe I could give a flying damn less- she's a slut.

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Originally written by Enraged Slith:

So because she hangs out with boys in the taverns, she has to dress like a whore... and if thats the case your basically saying that she dresses like that to get sex. You dug yourself a hole there...

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Originally written by Le Martyre de la Terreur:

"And I don't even want to know where you see a phallic symbol in all of this."
Sword.

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"But more significantly, why is it wrong that she's attractive? She certainly didn't use her sexuality in any undignified way (on this expedition, at any rate [Razz] )."
Because she is reducing her own dignity by flashing herself off like that. Basically, that graphic is one of a slut- a slut skilled with the use of a blade, but a slut nevertheless.

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[namecalling] Yeah, she's capable- she's also capable with attractiveness tied in. It's like you created a big-breasted character, adding in the fact that she's capable to counter that. Or, alteratively, women are subject to the same meritocratic standards of men, but they also shake what they got. (PS- Eahss is also not attractive.)

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Originally written by Ash Lael:

Andrew Miller - I think your point of view is quite a logical one. If you don't believe in a higher power, then of course there is no such thing as right and wrong outside of what people decide. In fact, it would probably be more accurate to say there's no such thing as right and wrong at all, only legal and illegal.

Taking this through to it's logical conclusion, one assumes you'd see nothing wrong with slavery, the White Australia policy, and other such 'legal evils' that have existed through history?

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