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Shock Trooper
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Here are two opposite extremes:

She is young, tall with long mahogany colored hair and always on the move. Her attention and her presence makes you overlook the harmonious symmetry of her face and figure. She seems to dance through her life swimming like a fish in the water of her treasured network of acquaintances, on which she keeps working conscientiously. She is committed to her friends but impossible to possess and would rather start analysing than accept any jealous demand of exclusivity.
Her voice can fill a hall without microphone but it also blends well with the choirs in which she sings. When she is alone, she practices intricate vocals and rhythms of her favorite pop songs. When she is with her friends, she provokes without grabbing the attention in that presumptuous hysterical way found in some of her insecure friends. Indifference is impossible. She is so beautiful.

He is tall middle-aged and seems unaware of his appearance - even hides his face behind shell-rimmed glasses and an unkept brown curly beard. He seems never far from his bicycle and his pedaling has something of Sisyphus' repetitive motion to roll his stone up the hill. Curved forward over the short frame sitting on a low saddle he would refuse to adjust, he reminds me of a weird pianist listening to some sound inside himself. He is always on the verge of retreat - a born victim - even within his family.
He is quite intelligent and knows exactly what he is lacking in male dominance but he would rather die than take the initiative or stand up to a confrontation. Time seems to stand still for him. I have not talked to him in decades because I do not want to be intrusive after I satisfying myself that he does not recognize me. He often comes to my mind because I see his traits in other people in my surround, as if I were a casting mould or some attracting opposite charge.
I would so much like to instill some positive will to live in him or in his analogues but who am I to decide what is good for them - there is no blessing in carrying a hound to the hunt. I am somewhat relieved that he himself appears to get somehat more active since his dominant father died and he is taking care of his old mother.

[ Tuesday, April 25, 2006 20:57: Message edited by: Yet another procrastinator ]

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The opposite of love is not hate, it's indifference.
The opposite of art is not ugliness, it's indifference.
The opposite of faith is not heresy, it's indifference.
And the opposite of life is not death, it's indifference.
Because of indifference, one dies before one actually dies. (not mine)
Posts: 311 | Registered: Friday, February 13 2004 08:00
A new low: in this thread, we hold a conversation using images in General
Shock Trooper
Member # 3980
Profile Homepage #17
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The opposite of love is not hate, it's indifference.
The opposite of art is not ugliness, it's indifference.
The opposite of faith is not heresy, it's indifference.
And the opposite of life is not death, it's indifference.
Because of indifference, one dies before one actually dies. (not mine)
Posts: 311 | Registered: Friday, February 13 2004 08:00
"Policing" ourselves? in General
Shock Trooper
Member # 3980
Profile Homepage #54
quote:
Originally written by Randomizer:
What is lacking about information on the Internet is a way to determine reliability. Any idiot with enough ability to generate a website can post anything no matter how stupid it is.
Where would you want to take such trust in reliability? How about karma-like stars?
The BBC have your say counts recommendations for posts. In a small community the recommendations need not be anonymous.
quote:
Originally written by Randomizer:
Wikipedia has had trouble with altering information to push an agenda so that they've had to change their policies in order that changes could be more easily noticed and evaluated to prevent wrong information from being accepted as fact.
This has been much publicised and addressed, afaik. There is nothing like your own critical thinking, imho. I do not want to replace that, anyhow, and I hope nobody else will dare to, either.
quote:
Originally written by Randomizer:
Unfortunately information is being restricted in the education system in the US. If you don't know that it's missing you never think to look for it. Most people don't take the time to educate themselves.
The time is there. Just read My love affair with porn and most of us will admit that we have similar habits if not with porn then spiderweb ...
quote:
Originally written by Randomizer:
Now there is a push to not place information out there that might offend a group. Arizona defeated a law to require universities to provide alternate material for individuals who might be offend by the course content. That would've allowed people to continue on in their own worlds without seeing alternatives.
How can additional alternate material allow people to continue on in their own worlds? What do you want to do against that? Brainwash them? Some of them may be right, too. I just do not get it. They did defeat that law, so what?
quote:
Originally written by Randomizer:
I don't even like thinking about how Intelligent Designers want to stop the teaching of evolution just because it's not a complete theory. All science still has new information occuring that changes existing theories. The Law of Gravity was discovered by Newton in the 1600's, but there are still some scientists that think there should be corrections to it to explain deviations that are barely measureable depending on the types of matter that are involved.
Intelligent design belongs in "Theory of Knowledge" as an example. The whole controversy is whether it should be taught in science on an equal footing. This reminds me of the past culture war in Germany about deemphasizing the rule of three in favor of set theory in the math curriculum. The results were just desasterous. You are right that keeping a link to the rule of three in some internet page would not be an acceptable alternative to teaching it, or some may say, pestering the poor students with it.

Back to OM's original post. Apart from revealing gross lack of information - unless he was trolling - he asked for an exchange of opinion and - since then - is absent from the whole discussion as far as I see. Could it be that such provocative and subsequent evasive behavior is correlated to the topic?
This would mean that we are not looking at an information problem but a psychological phenomenon?
I do not mean to stigmatize that - that would not help in anyway - but we need to identify the mechanism bravely, if we want to address the problem in any efficient way.
Possibly, some deeply-felt empty loneliness and disorientation that cannot be filled by any indoctrination unless it is disguised as heroic rebellion.

[ Saturday, April 22, 2006 21:40: Message edited by: Yet another procrastinator ]

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The opposite of love is not hate, it's indifference.
The opposite of art is not ugliness, it's indifference.
The opposite of faith is not heresy, it's indifference.
And the opposite of life is not death, it's indifference.
Because of indifference, one dies before one actually dies. (not mine)
Posts: 311 | Registered: Friday, February 13 2004 08:00
"Policing" ourselves? in General
Shock Trooper
Member # 3980
Profile Homepage #51
I wonder what is lacking to tap the enormous info of the internet to supply interested students with adequately arranged starting points.
The data may be overwhelming, not bite-sized, or just unrelated to any community of peers.
All of these bottle-necks need not be.
How about compiling a list of member-rated links that would not get lost by the periodic purges?
Something between a FAQ and e.g. this.
Far from an encyclopedia.
It need not be hosted or linked from spidweb - apart from the common signature links.

At least, it would not be the n+1st futile attempt to compete with this forum but rather complement it.
There is suitable social knowledgebase software around and making a small contribution might give us a better feeling of attention and recogniion than a post count.

What do you think?
Are you aware of anything similar that is operative already?

[ Saturday, April 22, 2006 19:36: Message edited by: Yet another procrastinator ]

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The opposite of love is not hate, it's indifference.
The opposite of art is not ugliness, it's indifference.
The opposite of faith is not heresy, it's indifference.
And the opposite of life is not death, it's indifference.
Because of indifference, one dies before one actually dies. (not mine)
Posts: 311 | Registered: Friday, February 13 2004 08:00
"Policing" ourselves? in General
Shock Trooper
Member # 3980
Profile Homepage #44
quote:
Originally written by Kelandon:

*facepalm* It's astonishing how much misinformation there is out there, ...
EDIT: And anyone who thinks that Hitler was "not such a bad guy" is either grossly underinformed or viciously racist.

Agree.
Let me come back to my question: How can we lead a somewhat rational debate and disperse information that can be trusted by otherwise "silent followers" (the default title on TCoA).
Strategic noncommunication is no winning strategy.(Do no take that personally, Erika).
From OM's and "Wizard"'s posts on TCoA I cannot believe yet that they are vicious racists.
Shutting down the discussion - whether by closing the forum, by coming down on the kids like a wall of bricks, or by purely evasive requests to keep it "clean" is a form of indifference, the epitome of evil, imho.
Sending them off into a corner as fire-breathing racial bigots, devious purveyors of blatant falsehoods or wild-eyed conspiracy theorists could just be advertised as proof of a conspiracy.
I did try to engage in a discussion of content with my ("Phen") reply on that Nazi thread and my escalation by initiating this thread here - but somehow this has been drowned out by the attitude expressed by Micael (sorry, it is not only you but you said it most concisely)
quote:
No-one who matters will ever read it, so I don't see that it matters is we keep it entirely sane.
It does matter, imho, and mostly so for OM, "Wizard" et al, I hope.
As a German, I also have a special interest in drawing such discussion on to the broader marketplace, precisely because of experiences abroad like the one told by this German exchange student in Montreal.

[ Saturday, April 22, 2006 01:12: Message edited by: Yet another procrastinator ]

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The opposite of love is not hate, it's indifference.
The opposite of art is not ugliness, it's indifference.
The opposite of faith is not heresy, it's indifference.
And the opposite of life is not death, it's indifference.
Because of indifference, one dies before one actually dies. (not mine)
Posts: 311 | Registered: Friday, February 13 2004 08:00
"Policing" ourselves? in General
Shock Trooper
Member # 3980
Profile Homepage #34
quote:
Originally written by Archmagus Micael:

If we're comparing Jews to Hitler, that's what we should do, and not argue about whether it's right to do so in something which isn't going anywhere near the press or any large amount of people. It's virtually pointless. No-one who matters will ever read it, so I don't see that it matters is we keep it entirely sane.
This comparison cannot be made without changing the whole setup of the "debate" including the venue.
So in effect, raising this question will just shut down the discussion.
I cannot believe that this is what you want, Micael.
About the rest the quote that I deemphasized: I have not the slightest clue what you mean. You do not want to sidetrack the discussion about how everybody else misunderstands what you meant, do you? So please, could you try to express what you really mean?

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The opposite of love is not hate, it's indifference.
The opposite of art is not ugliness, it's indifference.
The opposite of faith is not heresy, it's indifference.
And the opposite of life is not death, it's indifference.
Because of indifference, one dies before one actually dies. (not mine)
Posts: 311 | Registered: Friday, February 13 2004 08:00
"Policing" ourselves? in General
Shock Trooper
Member # 3980
Profile Homepage #28
quote:
Originally written by Zeviz:

quote:
Originally written by radix malorum est cupiditas:

Why don't you join in order to express your point of view?
Because arguing with fascists is a completely useless activity.

I agree with both of you, however, I do not think that any fascist posted in this thread. I even have doubts about the five boys in Kansas.
If we allow for an inflationary use of the "fascism" label, we only promote the ignorance about the real beast.
If we just avoid the discussion, this is a form of indifference, i.e. the real evil according to E.Wiesel.
I do think we need an open discussion about how to deal with such questions as OM's and it is possible without promoting Nazi-ideology.
I would like to learn from this discussion and eagerly await comments by experienced oldbies.
I do hope this discussion is possible here and needs not be thrown like a hot potato from TcoA to Polaris to Spidweb to Desperance.
I do hope we can keep it so disciplined that this thread will not be closed or even deleted before I have been able to learn.
Thank you, moderators,
thank you, administrators,
most of all, thank you, Jeff.

[ Friday, April 21, 2006 11:28: Message edited by: Yet another procrastinator ]

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The opposite of love is not hate, it's indifference.
The opposite of art is not ugliness, it's indifference.
The opposite of faith is not heresy, it's indifference.
And the opposite of life is not death, it's indifference.
Because of indifference, one dies before one actually dies. (not mine)
Posts: 311 | Registered: Friday, February 13 2004 08:00
"Policing" ourselves? in General
Shock Trooper
Member # 3980
Profile Homepage #12
quote:
Originally written by Kuranes-:

Who are you adressing with "you"? I do not give out custom titles.
I counted you as one of the spidweb establishment, as they appear as a homogeneous block to the very infrequent lurker.

quote:
Originally written by Kuranes-:

Also, the CIA doesn't investigate individuals usually. That's the NSA or the DHS...
How do you know?
Forgive me for not distinguishing between the various 3-letter agencies. I was concentrating on avoiding four-letter words.

[ Friday, April 21, 2006 00:33: Message edited by: Yet another procrastinator ]

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The opposite of love is not hate, it's indifference.
The opposite of art is not ugliness, it's indifference.
The opposite of faith is not heresy, it's indifference.
And the opposite of life is not death, it's indifference.
Because of indifference, one dies before one actually dies. (not mine)
Posts: 311 | Registered: Friday, February 13 2004 08:00
"Policing" ourselves? in General
Shock Trooper
Member # 3980
Profile Homepage #10
Amen.
BTW, I also prefer you to police us rather than the CIA - the custom titles are at least open for everyone to see unlike the CIA-tags.

[ Thursday, April 20, 2006 23:50: Message edited by: Yet another procrastinator ]

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The opposite of love is not hate, it's indifference.
The opposite of art is not ugliness, it's indifference.
The opposite of faith is not heresy, it's indifference.
And the opposite of life is not death, it's indifference.
Because of indifference, one dies before one actually dies. (not mine)
Posts: 311 | Registered: Friday, February 13 2004 08:00
"Policing" ourselves? in General
Shock Trooper
Member # 3980
Profile Homepage #8
quote:
Originally written by Randomizer:

Most people are inherently stupid.
The police are just taking advantage of technology. Besides sipping coffee and eating doughnuts while surfing the net beats having to walk a beat to get information.

What about if you read a Nazi-thread?
Do you trust that the net-watch police takes care of it - or the moderators guild?
Not all forums have the manpower to be moderated as closely as spidweb, e.g. the single-handed mod/admin might be cut off from the internet for a week.
Calling the police might be a little overreaction or what do you think?

[ Thursday, April 20, 2006 22:06: Message edited by: Yet another procrastinator ]

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The opposite of love is not hate, it's indifference.
The opposite of art is not ugliness, it's indifference.
The opposite of faith is not heresy, it's indifference.
And the opposite of life is not death, it's indifference.
Because of indifference, one dies before one actually dies. (not mine)
Posts: 311 | Registered: Friday, February 13 2004 08:00
"Policing" ourselves? in General
Shock Trooper
Member # 3980
Profile Homepage #5
I am not sure in my assessment that this is on topic but how would you react to a Nazi thread

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The opposite of love is not hate, it's indifference.
The opposite of art is not ugliness, it's indifference.
The opposite of faith is not heresy, it's indifference.
And the opposite of life is not death, it's indifference.
Because of indifference, one dies before one actually dies. (not mine)
Posts: 311 | Registered: Friday, February 13 2004 08:00
"Policing" ourselves? in General
Shock Trooper
Member # 3980
Profile Homepage #0
MySpace foils school shooting
quote:
a threatening message had been posted on MySpace.com....
The message discussed the significance of April 20, which is Adolf Hitler's birthday and the anniversary of the 1999 Columbine High School attack in Colorado, in which two students wearing trench coats killed 13 people and committed suicide, the sheriff said.
"The message, it was brief, but it stated that there was going to be a shooting at the Riverton school and that people should wear bulletproof vests and flak jackets," Norman said.
This is no freedom of spech issue, imho, or do you think the guys were framed?

[ Thursday, April 20, 2006 18:55: Message edited by: Yet another procrastinator ]

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The opposite of love is not hate, it's indifference.
The opposite of art is not ugliness, it's indifference.
The opposite of faith is not heresy, it's indifference.
And the opposite of life is not death, it's indifference.
Because of indifference, one dies before one actually dies. (not mine)
Posts: 311 | Registered: Friday, February 13 2004 08:00
Are FRPGs inherently gerontocratic? in General
Shock Trooper
Member # 3980
Profile Homepage #11
We all resist change and fear the future.
We all idealize the past because we forget bad memories and complex matters to remember the relief after the old crisis was gone.
The past crisis serves a for entertainment and contrast to emphasize the relief.
So it is only natural to place a fantastic world in the past.
It is so much more comfortable to escape the present troubles of your life by "remembering" the past paradise than to imagine the worrying future.
It is just human.

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The opposite of love is not hate, it's indifference.
The opposite of art is not ugliness, it's indifference.
The opposite of faith is not heresy, it's indifference.
And the opposite of life is not death, it's indifference.
Because of indifference, one dies before one actually dies. (not mine)
Posts: 311 | Registered: Friday, February 13 2004 08:00
What happens when you die? in General
Shock Trooper
Member # 3980
Profile Homepage #31
quote:
Originally written by Kuranes-:

So, once you die, what happens to your online identity and your data? Have you made any preparations/clauses in your will/lists of online accounts?
IS it still an "identity" once I am dead?
MY posts may be archived but I do not believe anybody will find it worth tokeep them or read them again.
I would want to have some information about my family identity archived. My father started with itbut so far none of our family has found the necessary calm to follow up on tht effort. Maybe I will try to bribe someone.

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The opposite of love is not hate, it's indifference.
The opposite of art is not ugliness, it's indifference.
The opposite of faith is not heresy, it's indifference.
And the opposite of life is not death, it's indifference.
Because of indifference, one dies before one actually dies. (not mine)
Posts: 311 | Registered: Friday, February 13 2004 08:00
Indian Doctor Jailed For Agreeing To Abort Female Fetus in General
Shock Trooper
Member # 3980
Profile Homepage #45
quote:
Originally written by Dintiradan:

[QB]By Yet another procrastinator:
quote:
For me the crucial point is where the fetus would have a realistic chance to survive outside and breathe.
Not sure I understand. When the baby/fetus can survive on its own? A full-term newborn can't survive on its own.
[/QUOTE]I did not write "on it sown" because this may be intepreted in so many different ways. Outside referred to the mothers womb. I should have referred to the dependency on the placenta but that might have been too technical.
quote:
Originally written by Dintiradan:

[QB]By Yet another procrastinator:
quote:
Catholics may take the example of Holy Mary as an inspiration to end the social scorn on single motherhood.
What's Joseph? Chopped liver?
?? I guess we are on the same page but I may have been too concise and you may not have understood what I meant. Sorry.
No, Joseph was not chopped liver. Imho, he just examplifies the support that may convince single pregnant women to carry a fetus to term. As always, the bible does not make much sense unless you translate it to our present context. What our society does is to force single mothers to abort their fetusses themselves rather than have them killed by the powers that be - read "Herodes" if you want. Having kids is a poverty risk, nowadays.
Even for two-parent families.

More fundamentally: We should not take our values just uncritically from tradition or religion. This would make us helpless vis-à-vis questions that arise from medical progress. The values are not ends in themselves but they serve to make us stronger in that they are part of our human dentity and have served to let us survive through evolution. If that sounds like "IIIrd Reich" Nazism to you, you have not understood what happened then and you ignore the ultimate outcome of 10s of millions dead. That was EVIL compounded by ethical misunderstanding and disorientation.

Let us take a real example:
If my wife were pregnant from age 35 on at latest, we would have a chorionic villi sampling made around the 11th week to get a prenatal genetic diagnosis. And if there were something wrong, there would be time to abort before the 18h week, i.e. before the first fetal movments that establish the start of the mother-child relation.
This possibility would be our basis for planning parenthood in the first place.
If we would go for an amniocentesis, which is done at around week 17 it may have to be redone after a week or two and the results do take several weeks afaik, so we may easily end up with the decision to abort no earlier than the edge of viability outside the womb with intensive care of 22 - 25 weeks.
This would be a true moral and emotional dilemma for us. A mongoloid child would easily mean that we would be too overtaxed to have more possibly healthy kids. Does this make mongoloid kids more of an outcast/exception in society? Certainly, and I would feel bad about that but who are we to put such a parental task on our plate?

Call me a fag or an abortionist or whatever you want. This is how I find it right to decide for us. I believe that no woman takes the decision lightly to abort - or her children may wish never to have been born in the first place. It is just plain immorally ignorant to think that these things could be regulated by penal law.

And taking the Bible literally does not help a bit in this context.

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Any help with those stupid quotation tags would be most welcome,moderators.

[ Wednesday, April 05, 2006 09:14: Message edited by: Yet another procrastinator ]

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The opposite of love is not hate, it's indifference.
The opposite of art is not ugliness, it's indifference.
The opposite of faith is not heresy, it's indifference.
And the opposite of life is not death, it's indifference.
Because of indifference, one dies before one actually dies. (not mine)
Posts: 311 | Registered: Friday, February 13 2004 08:00
Indian Doctor Jailed For Agreeing To Abort Female Fetus in General
Shock Trooper
Member # 3980
Profile Homepage #25
quote:
Originally written by Wonko The Sane:

[QUOTE]Also, isn't abortion is identical to using contraceptives? The only difference is whether you use it before or after you had sex.
For me the crucial point is where the fetus would have a realistic chance to survive outside and breathe. If we subscribe to the notion of human rights (as I strongly advocate), late abortions for other reasons than save the life of the mother is as unacceptable as homicide including the death penalty murder and aggressive("preemptive") warfare.
What do we do with unaccaptable behavior?
If the moral majority had balls, they would start to bring W to The Hague along with Saddam, Mladic and Kradjic. Then give hands-on sex education to adolescents to empower girls to prevent unwanted pregnancies and subsidize condoms rather than cutting noncatholic aid programs the go beyond preaching abstinence. Catholics may take the exampleof Holy Mary as an inspiration to end the social scorn on single motherhood. Then and only then when abortion has ceased to be a mass phenomenon may we start individual prosecution.
Everything else is just hypocritic sexist suppression.

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The opposite of love is not hate, it's indifference.
The opposite of art is not ugliness, it's indifference.
The opposite of faith is not heresy, it's indifference.
And the opposite of life is not death, it's indifference.
Because of indifference, one dies before one actually dies. (not mine)
Posts: 311 | Registered: Friday, February 13 2004 08:00
Indian Doctor Jailed For Agreeing To Abort Female Fetus in General
Shock Trooper
Member # 3980
Profile Homepage #22
quote:
Originally written by thaet waes gode cyning:
When the ratio of girls to guys is about 1:10, I can see why sex would need to be rationed.
0. There is always tree-hugging and [deleted to stay within CoC]
1. Just allow gay marriage. You do not have to be born gay.
2. In India there is a long tradition to a related effect read about the (URL=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hijra_%28South_Asia%29)Hijras(/URL) in this context.
quote:
Originally written by thaet waes gode cyning:
the advantage of having a son over having a daughter is strongly ingrained.
this may have its origin in the shorter lifespan of women due to the health risk of childbearing and the male dominance in the family where the man's parents have a higher priority than the girl's. This is bound to change in no time as girls become a rare commodity first and finally a precious luxury. Let us hope we do not descend to drone status, fellows! We may end up fighting for pro-choice for the guys in India to keep their penisses!
quote:
Originally written by thaet waes gode cyning:
The only ways to prevent this are either evolving the cultural customs to the point where having daughters is as advantageous as having sons (impossible in practice, in any reasonable timespan)
You ain't seen nothing yet, Aran. I was at a boys' high school. The first 3 girls happened to be admitted into the school in my age group at around 14-16. Their social status and function in class (School "culture") was nothing compared to the girls as we knew them from the neighboring girls' high school. Culture is not more fundamental than the sex ratio. It depends on it.

[ Wednesday, April 05, 2006 01:14: Message edited by: Yet another procrastinator ]

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The opposite of love is not hate, it's indifference.
The opposite of art is not ugliness, it's indifference.
The opposite of faith is not heresy, it's indifference.
And the opposite of life is not death, it's indifference.
Because of indifference, one dies before one actually dies. (not mine)
Posts: 311 | Registered: Friday, February 13 2004 08:00
PDN? in General
Shock Trooper
Member # 3980
Profile Homepage #41
My name is an implicit allusion to the important things in life that YOU are putting off while you read this. It did take some time for you to get the message - much shorter than it took me to understand the spiderweb general is part of your life itself.

[ Monday, March 27, 2006 23:03: Message edited by: Yet another procrastinator ]

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The opposite of love is not hate, it's indifference.
The opposite of art is not ugliness, it's indifference.
The opposite of faith is not heresy, it's indifference.
And the opposite of life is not death, it's indifference.
Because of indifference, one dies before one actually dies. (not mine)
Posts: 311 | Registered: Friday, February 13 2004 08:00
New Moderator for General in General
Shock Trooper
Member # 3980
Profile Homepage #56
quote:
Originally written by Arancaytar:

you do realize I'm married to Drakefyre, right? Our love was never meant to be.(
Drakey married at such a young age???
Aran, what have you done to her?

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The opposite of love is not hate, it's indifference.
The opposite of art is not ugliness, it's indifference.
The opposite of faith is not heresy, it's indifference.
And the opposite of life is not death, it's indifference.
Because of indifference, one dies before one actually dies. (not mine)
Posts: 311 | Registered: Friday, February 13 2004 08:00
New Moderator for General in General
Shock Trooper
Member # 3980
Profile Homepage #47
Congratulations with your new title, Aran.
You are very courageous to accept the task without the cloak of anonymity.
Do not let anonymous powers that be hide behind your R/L personality that you insert into the leadership.

I wish you
a) good judgement between the inevitable corruption of power and the necessary loyality and
b) the chance to be useful to this community that has had deeper influence on your own development than you can know.

[ Monday, March 20, 2006 10:14: Message edited by: Habeas corpus fundamentalist ]

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The opposite of love is not hate, it's indifference.
The opposite of art is not ugliness, it's indifference.
The opposite of faith is not heresy, it's indifference.
And the opposite of life is not death, it's indifference.
Because of indifference, one dies before one actually dies. (not mine)
Posts: 311 | Registered: Friday, February 13 2004 08:00
Captives of the turtle pit, hear ye, hear ye! in General
Shock Trooper
Member # 3980
Profile Homepage #69
2) My respect to Rachel's dedication. I wonder what else she could have achieved in the meantime for her goals if she hat proceeded a bit more cautiously. Friends, go on to fight for peace but stay alive. We need you all.

3) I understand your observation and your conclusion . May I suggest to make use of the lesson we can draw: A ranking causes competition. We all drool over recognition much more than we would admit.
What about putting this to some serious use to advance the subspecies of mankind found on spiderweb? Here is my question of all questions:

Devise an transparent algorithm to compute a ranking of members according to the merits they have earned during the past quarter.
It should be based on an honest majority vote and neither a popularity contest or subject to manipulation by the authorities.
The karma is the zeroth approximation.
The post count was better but flawed as you found out.
The "elections" for mod-ship last year were better but limited to the elite rather than including John Q. Public.
In science there is a citation list with impact weight factors according to the journals.
Amazon ranks the book comments according to usefulness.
Spidweb could become more exiting if we tried some other ranking mechanism.

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The opposite of love is not hate, it's indifference.
The opposite of art is not ugliness, it's indifference.
The opposite of faith is not heresy, it's indifference.
And the opposite of life is not death, it's indifference.
Because of indifference, one dies before one actually dies. (not mine)
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quote:
Originally written by Randomizer:

Is there any chance that a new forum could be created called Trash?
Is there not a hierarchy of such functionality in place already, ranging from "General" itself - which detracts (not only) spam from more technical/topical boards - to all kinds of spidweb satellites which I am not brave enough to mention?
The question is who is willing to read or even to moderate or even to administrate or even to host whatever he/she regards as spam?

[ Tuesday, March 14, 2006 15:36: Message edited by: Habeas corpus fundamentalist ]

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The opposite of love is not hate, it's indifference.
The opposite of art is not ugliness, it's indifference.
The opposite of faith is not heresy, it's indifference.
And the opposite of life is not death, it's indifference.
Because of indifference, one dies before one actually dies. (not mine)
Posts: 311 | Registered: Friday, February 13 2004 08:00
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Shock Trooper
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quote:
Originally written by When in the course of Nathan Ashby:

However, there are different definitions for "staring". Any look lasting longer than a tenth of a second? A second? Two seconds? Half an hour? :P
That depends on the culture (boxers vs. chess players) and it differs not only on the two side of the North Atlantic but even within Europe and between social levels. Possibly,it even depends on the context. No surprise that misunderstandigs in body language account for the greater part of problems of human/horse communication.

I wonder about the "dirty look". Is this what constitutes the sex appeal of Robbie Williams?
Being playful and selfassured rather than anxious and stressed does constitute a male sex signal, as are the elevated eyebrows, the half turning away while looking, and a certain cluelessness in girls. However, what is it that makes the grin "dirty"? Are only boys capable of that?
Squinting eyes, down turn of the corners of the mouth? Any example photos?

[ Friday, March 10, 2006 20:50: Message edited by: Habeas corpus fundamentalist ]

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The opposite of love is not hate, it's indifference.
The opposite of art is not ugliness, it's indifference.
The opposite of faith is not heresy, it's indifference.
And the opposite of life is not death, it's indifference.
Because of indifference, one dies before one actually dies. (not mine)
Posts: 311 | Registered: Friday, February 13 2004 08:00
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Shock Trooper
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Profile Homepage #61
As someone who has been accused of undressing a woman with my eyes, may I mention that this is sometimes a projection by the bystander, because - honestly - in that instance I was not.
Imho, the reaction of the mostly female accuser is one of insecurity and the ensuing attempt to assert herself by exerting control.
I am not sure whether there is anything one should try do about it - as long as it is in the mind.

There is power in controlling one's actions but there is neurosis in the futile attempts to control one's thoughts - not to mention the misleading perfidy in trying to control what other people think that you are thinking.
As I come to think about it, this is about trust and mistrust - possibly Weapons of Mass Deception.

[ Thursday, March 09, 2006 16:28: Message edited by: Habeas corpus fundamentalist ]

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The opposite of love is not hate, it's indifference.
The opposite of art is not ugliness, it's indifference.
The opposite of faith is not heresy, it's indifference.
And the opposite of life is not death, it's indifference.
Because of indifference, one dies before one actually dies. (not mine)
Posts: 311 | Registered: Friday, February 13 2004 08:00
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Shock Trooper
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Cookies are not good for me so I voted, yes.

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The opposite of love is not hate, it's indifference.
The opposite of art is not ugliness, it's indifference.
The opposite of faith is not heresy, it's indifference.
And the opposite of life is not death, it's indifference.
Because of indifference, one dies before one actually dies. (not mine)
Posts: 311 | Registered: Friday, February 13 2004 08:00

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