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Avernum 4 Editor Help in Avernum 4
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Law Bringer
Member # 335
 written Sunday, June 3 2007 16:47 Profile Homepage #8
The script you downloaded should actually be longer than the original, as it contains all of the scripts of the original plus the editor. Delete the original script and the extraneous backup, then stick the downloaded editor script in the appropriate folder.

—Alorael, who should maybe turn this over to a PC user. It sounds like the folders aren't quite the same.
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SW sales poll in General
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Law Bringer
Member # 335
 written Sunday, June 3 2007 16:44 Profile Homepage #4
What about the games you've played entirely without buying? I can think of three likely situations in which this would come up, and only one of them is TM.

—Alorael, who also wants to know where to list games that one has bought but never played past the demo area.
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Insert Random Nethergate: Resurrection Questions Here in Nethergate
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Law Bringer
Member # 335
 written Sunday, June 3 2007 10:10 Profile Homepage #41
A fifth characters slows down your experience gain just like any other characters in your party. You can't pick up a sixth character in Vanarium, though. The slot is reserved for area-specific characters.

—Alorael, who considers Vanarium highly useful for Romans and okay for Celts. You don't really lose anything by expanding your party, but a druid for the druidless is excellent and another fighter for a band of fighters is less so. Even worse, your fifth character is permanently stuck in the back.
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End of Days in Richard White Games
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Law Bringer
Member # 335
 written Sunday, June 3 2007 10:07 Profile Homepage #11
The cult has transcended. We no longer need this forum. The end is nigh!

Well, nigher.

—Alorael, who is tempted to save some of the more valuable threads by transporting them into other forums. Nobody would notice an influx of oddity into Exile, and the relocation would be highly appropriate.
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Avernum 4 Editor Help in Avernum 4
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Law Bringer
Member # 335
 written Sunday, June 3 2007 10:04 Profile Homepage #5
I'm not quite sure what you're downloading, but when I click the link in the forum header all I get is a file called z60monasterdlg.txt. Replace the file by the same name in the Scripts folder in the Avernum 4 Files folder with the file you've downloaded. You get to the editor, such as it is, by talking to the cook in Fort Monastery. You'll need to either start a new game or wander far enough away from Fort Monastery to force the scripts to reload.

—Alorael, who thinks you may be looking at another editor. Where are you getting it?
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Whatever Happened to. . . in General
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Law Bringer
Member # 335
 written Sunday, June 3 2007 09:57 Profile Homepage #19
It's Nalyd. Think about it for a moment and you can probably guess why.

—Alorael, who does not condone annoying. He also doesn't condone out of context quote mutilation for signatures. Salmon can do it, though, because he does it well and because it's very nearly his gimmick.
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how risky is changing day in A3 editor? in The Avernum Trilogy
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Law Bringer
Member # 335
 written Saturday, June 2 2007 14:47 Profile Homepage #1
Altering the date won't cause any problems. There's one event that you won't see if you don't let the clock advance, and it's worth seeing, but you can worry about it later.

—Alorael, who has gotten good results by setting the day to 150 and using the rest command repeatedly. If you want to see some interesting but nonessential things you can do that later in the game when you feel comfortable handling some rather tough battles.
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Avernum 5, May Update in Avernum 4
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Law Bringer
Member # 335
 written Friday, June 1 2007 19:06 Profile Homepage #63
A5 will probably mention the plot of A4, such as it is, but you can get everything you need to know in one sentence. The entire game can be summarized handily in one short paragraph.

—Alorael, who wouldn't worry about Redmarks either. Erika is only briefly mentioned in A4, and her family is brand new in A5.
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The Simplest Path in General
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Law Bringer
Member # 335
 written Friday, June 1 2007 13:48 Profile Homepage #53
I'll throw two cents onto the pile. Meme and gene come from a completely different etymological roots. The former is meant to evoke the latter, but it's not actually derived from it.

For distinguishing between memes and non-meme ideas, I think I'm with the herd. There's no good non-arbitrary distinction I can come up with, and unless the book articulates one it's useless. I'm also not so convinced that memes intend to self-perpetuate. I think rather we use meme as a label for ideas that propogate well. Original sin (and all of Christianity) is one. So are some very basic rules of morality (don't punch a stranger in the face). Except for the former arguably being bad and the latter arguably being good, I can't see the difference.

—Alorael, who thinks real viral memes are rare. Buscard's Murrain is the one that comes to mind.
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Jeff on programming in General
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Law Bringer
Member # 335
 written Friday, June 1 2007 13:29 Profile Homepage #19
Space Invaders aliens have no tactics. In most variations they fire at random. In some they make a token effort at aiming towards you, but it's still at a randomly determined time and on a trajectory that's a simple matter of finding lengths and widths.

—Alorael, who thinks Asteroids navigation and random rock generation is slightly more difficult to produce. Not much more, but slightly. Asteroids requires some graphics, though, so you have to either learn to use sprites or become a master of various drawing functions.
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The Simplest Path in General
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Law Bringer
Member # 335
 written Thursday, May 31 2007 18:53 Profile Homepage #31
quote:
Originally written by Bandit Keith:

You're somehow not getting the entire part where I explained how you can't get a negative by multiplying the same number by itself. That is a proven mathematical impossibility, so the square root of a negative can't exist.
It's not a proven mathematical impossibility. It is, in fact, a proven possibility, and numbers that have this property are called imaginary numbers.

Mathematically there is nothing wrong with imaginary numbers. Your objection can't be mathematical unless you declare the laws of mathematics by fiat, which you appear to be doing. You object to imaginary numbers because they describe nothing that exists in the real world.

You reject Kel's arguments because they're made to prove a point. Fair enough, but how are your arguments not set up to prove a point, namely that imaginary numbers don't exist? I've never seen -3, but I admit it is a useful concept.

—Alorael, who thinks your basic objection is two-pronged: firstly, imaginary numbers do not describe anything real; secondly, they are really weird. The latter is true but has been considered true of negative numbers and fractions in certain times and places. Weirdness has nothing to do with validity. Imaginary numbers do describe real things as well: you've been given examples. You don't have to like non-real math, but you have to admit that it exists, that it has real-world applications, and that it therefore has a valid, non-self-referential reason for existing.
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Jeff on programming in General
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Law Bringer
Member # 335
 written Thursday, May 31 2007 16:45 Profile Homepage #14
Space Invaders is practically a game programmers' rite of passage. Hello World, then Space Invaders. That's how it's done.

—Alorael, who thinks Breakout is also on the list. Maybe Asteroids for the ambitious.
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The Simplest Path in General
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Law Bringer
Member # 335
 written Thursday, May 31 2007 16:42 Profile Homepage #27
quote:
Originally written by Bandit Keith:

1. Those aren't uses aren't in useful in any relevant sense.
What list are you looking at? Quantum mechanics and electric circuits are rather important. So's signal processing, O user of the internet. I've never thought about control theory and I have no idea how imaginary numbers can be useful in cartography, but those are all useful.

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2. Huh? That last bit doesn't make any sense... Oh well, I'll still take a stab at it... Any number times itself regardless of whether it's positive or negative will yield a positive number in the answer. To get a negative answer in multiplication, one must multiply a negative number by a positive number. 'ie, -1 * -1 = 1, not -1. whereas, 1 * -1 = -1'
That's a property of real numbers, not all numbers. You've just defined numbers as the set of real numbers and begged the question.

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Now, 2, like 1(square root of which is 1), has a square root. It approximately 1.4142135... there are more numbers beyond the 5, but my dollar store calculator only goes out to 8 digits.
And -2 has a square root. It's approximately 1.4142135i. That's only less legitimate than the square root of 2 if you define imaginary numbers as non-numbers, which again provides only circular justification.

Anyway, the point is that any positive number has a square root, even if it isn't a whole number, but a negative number can't have a square root because of how multiplication works. Period.[/QB][/QUOTE]

That's how real numbers work, not how multiplication works. I can multiply i by i and get -1 with no trouble at all.

—Alorael, who doesn't really see how the nonexistence of imaginary numbers relegates them to pure evil. They're useful even if they're only theoretical.
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What have you been reading lately? in General
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Law Bringer
Member # 335
 written Thursday, May 31 2007 13:46 Profile Homepage #409
Not capitalizing words that lose proper status is tautological.

—Alorael, who has seem too many supporters of both styles to nitpick. He still writes French fries, but he's okay with swiss cheese. The latter makes more sense for clarity, though. You might want to get cheaper American swiss cheese when shopping in America. But never try to get Swiss american cheese!
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The Simplest Path in General
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Law Bringer
Member # 335
 written Thursday, May 31 2007 13:29 Profile Homepage #23
I hereby call for the immediate banning of Aran for posting harmful material.

—Alorael, who actually isn't sure that invoking a motif of harmful sensation is against the CoC. He hereby calls for an amendment!
Posts: 14579 | Registered: Saturday, December 1 2001 08:00
Regulations in General
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Law Bringer
Member # 335
 written Thursday, May 31 2007 13:22 Profile Homepage #35
While I'd like to jump back into the debate, I can't. Firstly, it's not a debate anymore, and it's debatable whether or not it ever really was one. Secondly and more importantly, we've seen that this leads to unhappy Jeff.

—Alorael, who wins this debate by argumentum ad ultima ratio regum.
Posts: 14579 | Registered: Saturday, December 1 2001 08:00
a simple question in General
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Law Bringer
Member # 335
 written Thursday, May 31 2007 13:15 Profile Homepage #17
You just failed to answer a simple question. Exile was released in 1994.

—Alorael, who can still remember the first time he stepped out of the portal and met a man standing in front of it. "Hello! Name? Job?"
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Avernum 5, May Update in Avernum 4
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Law Bringer
Member # 335
 written Thursday, May 31 2007 13:14 Profile Homepage #52
The idea of chitrach swarms is good. The execution of chitrach swarms in A4 was good too. It's the endless slog of a few chitrachs at a time through two floors of the Eastern Gallery that gets old.

—Alorael, who expects an Ornotha Ziggurat's worth of chitrachs in A5. With chitrach mages and priests. And at least three chitrachs that summons chitrachs.
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Why? in General
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Law Bringer
Member # 335
 written Thursday, May 31 2007 13:11 Profile Homepage #16
quote:
Originally written by Spidweb:


But my games are big. They're fun. They're not too expensive. They're stable. And they are in a genre which is just not well represented right now.
They're lag-free. I don't really realize how important that is until I try to play something else. Having to wait a minute to save or load, enter a new area, see the cinematic doods, and so on isn't worth my time.

Aside from the audio and visual elements, Spiderweb games are really quite as good as the rest of the market. I find that I prefer Spiderweb's graphics anyway.

—Alorael, who finds that having a job and a lot of available games makes him pickier. If he can get everything, he'd better be sure he wants what he gets. Most games are, sadly, not worth the time it takes to play them or the money it takes to obtain them. Spiderweb delivers fast but prolonged and very cheap fun!
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Game Difficulty in The Avernum Trilogy
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Law Bringer
Member # 335
 written Thursday, May 31 2007 13:04 Profile Homepage #8
Wasn't me. I've never even finished a game with a fully functional singleton, and I find torment quite hard enough for me.

—Alorael, who recommends the two earlier Avernums. A3 has inflated damage and a cap that both just don't quite feel right. A1 and A2 keep everything down at reasonable levels.
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Hintbook Questions in General
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Law Bringer
Member # 335
 written Thursday, May 31 2007 13:00 Profile Homepage #6
Part of the hintbook is usually included in the manual you download with the games as the walkthrough for the beginning. Not all the games include it, but some earlier ones do. I'm not sure when (or if) Jeff stopped. Mostly I've paid progressively less attention to the instructions.

—Alorael, who thinks you can skip the hints with ease. Online walkthroughs are usually much more thorough, and while it's nice to support Spiderweb it's not necessary to break your bank account for it.
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a simple question in General
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Law Bringer
Member # 335
 written Wednesday, May 30 2007 17:49 Profile Homepage #13
But that, my good sir, is a CoC violation. And I daresay you've got a few high energy orbitals occupied.

—Alorael, who is sure there is a more clever way to warp that pun. In fact, it's probably been so warped many times.
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a simple question in General
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Law Bringer
Member # 335
 written Wednesday, May 30 2007 16:26 Profile Homepage #10
I'm not even sure where the term minimodding came from or why it has such sudden prominence here. I liked Spiderweb better without it.

—Alorael, who still thinks actions speak louder than words. And, of course, mods are the only ones who can take action. So ha!
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