a simple question

AuthorTopic: a simple question
Apprentice
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which one of theese skills is best :

melle weapons
pole weapons
bows
thrown missles

i have a thief with high dexterity. i know that damage with the bow depends on dexterity ( but does it depend on the str too ). do i need str at all for that character ?
also does the pole weapons use str or dex ? or both ?
please help.
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Which game is this?

Personally I would agree with you on bows - I find them much better than other weapons because they're ranged. Throwing weapons - Geneforge put them me off them... :rolleyes:
You don't really need too much strength for a thief but you should get a few levels now and then.

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You probably should have posted this in the Avernum Forum, because presumably you are asking about Avernum.

This forum is for posting non-game specific messages.

Bows are generally considered to be superior in Avernum (especially the most recent).

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thanks for all the replies. yes i'm talking about avernum.

so str is only usefull to a thief if you want to change the amount of stuff he can carry ?
are you sure that str doesn't influence the damage done with the bow ?

by the way sorry for posting here, i didn't notice...
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Strength doesn't change the damage the bows do in Avernum 3 which is the only one I have right now but I seem to remember it being the same in the other Avernums.

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Thrown weapons are pretty worthless in all Avernum games. Bows just don't do enough damage in any game before A4. Swords and poles are a matter of choice: swords let you use shields but do slightly less damage, while spears are hard-hitting but two-handed. You usually find good magic swords earlier and more often, but the best weapon is most often a spear.

—Alorael, who can say for certain that melee and pole require Strength. He's pretty sure throwing does too, and he's not sure about bows. Whether you're playing A1-A3 or A4 makes a big difference.
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Swords are your best friends in the end(unless that's where you're being stabbed with one). They're better than beating people with sticks and have the most variety. Also, a thief with a spear just lacks flavor

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quote:
You probably should have posted this in the Avernum Forum, because presumably you are asking about Avernum.

This forum is for posting non-game specific messages.
*cough*
minimod
*cough*

Anyway, how exactly are you a "thief" in Avernum?

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Originally by IFM:

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*cough*
minimod
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But it was acceptable for Ceylon since it was correct advice that the original poster didn't know. You calling attention to it, however, is far less appreciated.

quote:
Anyway, how exactly are you a "thief" in Avernum?
A character with high tool use for opening doors and disarming traps can be considered a thief.

Presumably, a thief also takes everything valuable that's not nailed down as well. :P

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Like me for example, having a thief.

Also, it did look like minimoding to me...sorry. I do, however, learn from my mistakes.

My thief (nephil) used bow/arrow. He is not very strong...and has a weak melee attack.

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I'm not even sure where the term minimodding came from or why it has such sudden prominence here. I liked Spiderweb better without it.

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The way I say it, minimodding is merely a lie made by the fascists to give the little people the artificial feeling of importance. Having said that... Volkswagenhagen!

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it's more fun to just call people homo.
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Thrown weapons are a holdover from Exile, where they required less action points to use than bows. When hasted, this meant an extra attack per round,
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When was Exile released?

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quote:
Originally written by Sarasaphilia:

When was Exile released?
Exile was the first ever game that Jeff made. So, a long time ago. In fact, Avernum is a remake of the four Exile games. However Avernum IV was a totally new game.

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You just failed to answer a simple question. Exile was released in 1994.

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Exile was the first ever game that Jeff made. So, a long time ago. In fact, Avernum is a remake of the three Exile games. However Avernum IV was a totally new game.

That was me fixing the typo (in bold).

Anyway, people used to call me a minimod when I, well, minimoded. I don't like the term.

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There are four Exile games, Iffy. Perhaps you forgot BoE.

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I asumed he meant the storyline part.

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quote:
Originally written by Dikiyoba:

Presumably, a thief also takes everything valuable that's not nailed down as well. :P
Pirates leave everything that's either nailed down or on fire. Real thieves do not. =^.^=

Incidentally, maybe there should be a scenario that gave a few breaks to ranged weapon and spell-users - lots of counters and tables strewn around some rooms that you'd have to work around, instead of emphasizing making your meatshield Superman...hmm...

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Besides having a bow, a thief should carry a sword also, as you can occasionally strike a fleeing monster.

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