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Avernum 5 boat screenshot in Avernum 4
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Law Bringer
Member # 335
 written Sunday, September 2 2007 12:17 Profile Homepage #16
quote:
Originally written by DanielJacksonMPC:

So, then, basically...when you use the mouse to move, you move like you used to in the older Avernum games/Nethergate: Resurrection?
No, it works just like A4. You move to wherever you click. To move one space at a time, you have to click one space at a time. It's irritating to do that, but it's convenient to cross entire sections with a single click.

—Alorael, who has given up on the X battle. He'll leave that for when he gets the Anvil Catcher from Rentar-Ihrno.
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Avernum 5 boat screenshot in Avernum 4
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Law Bringer
Member # 335
 written Sunday, September 2 2007 09:48 Profile Homepage #13
Like A4, movement is still one space at a time. Clicking lets the AI take care of the path, but it's still quite Avernum. AP and actions are, I'm happy to say, like G4's. You can attack with one AP.

—Alorael, who can't say he's such a huge fan of having to get the zeppelins refilled at every single lava vent. It gets irritating, especially before you have the Xian Pump.
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Avernum 5 boat screenshot in Avernum 4
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Law Bringer
Member # 335
 written Saturday, September 1 2007 22:48 Profile Homepage #5
Randomizer is a tester, but I think this is no terrible reveal. Boat movement really works identically to non-boat movement: you can click to move several spaces at once, or you can use the keyboard to move one space at a time. To get out of a boat requires clicking on it to spit your party back onto adjacent land.

—Alorael, who likes the boats. They feel very Avernumish. The zeppelins just seem weird. And the space rockets? Well, it turns out vahnatai creationism got a few things right.
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Escape Avernum (A1) in The Avernum Trilogy
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Law Bringer
Member # 335
 written Saturday, September 1 2007 22:46 Profile Homepage #2
There are three major quests in A1. Escaping from Avernum is one, and killing Grah-Hoth is another. You don't have to do the latter to complete the former.

—Alorael, who actually thinks it would be interesting to do only one quest and completely avoid the other two branches. Interesting and probably very hard.
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Easter Eggs in General
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Law Bringer
Member # 335
 written Saturday, September 1 2007 10:38 Profile Homepage #17
Whoops. Thanks, Slarty. I guess you need ResEdit for easter eggs. Except, of course, A4's face-leaping spiders.

—Alorael, who just messed up the Anaximander order. He really thought the sex drones were from A4, though. He should have been suspicious when Spotlight couldn't find the reference in the scripts.
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noob info in General
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Law Bringer
Member # 335
 written Saturday, September 1 2007 09:52 Profile Homepage #39
I might, but I think it's too late now. Next time I will take no prisoners, show no mercy, and leave no post unedited.

—Alorael, who thinks that it's worth adding that taking advice on how not to seem terribly new from people who are terribly new may in fact be a strategy for never getting the shiny rubbed off you.
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Easter Eggs in General
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Law Bringer
Member # 335
 written Friday, August 31 2007 19:38 Profile Homepage #10
I don't think Jeff would be okay with another company deciding to alter his games. On the other hand, scripts are rather easy to mess with. I wouldn't be terribly surprised if the line is a Jeff Vogel original, either. He did, after all, create the turgid fleshy sex drones of Almaria and Anaximander's special reward.

—Alorael, who supposes both of those are easter eggs (in E/A3 and A4, respectively). You need to use something like ResEdit to see the former and a quick script check to see the latter.

[ Friday, August 31, 2007 19:39: Message edited by: Lickerish Caducity ]
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Man or God in General
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Law Bringer
Member # 335
 written Thursday, August 30 2007 12:42 Profile Homepage #32
quote:
Originally written by StillnessI don’t know what qualifies as an “average person,” but I know a lot of people that weren’t raised as a Christian that now believe the Bible. They believe because of a detailed thorough examination of the Scriptures has convinced them that the answers to the most important questions are to be found there. They believe because they see that the things they read actually work.

Many have been on a path very similar to what how you describe your own. One of my good buddies taught himself Hebrew and Koine Greek so he could figure things out for himself. Just accepting what someone else believes is mental laziness, but if you do a careful and systematic search and find a claim to make sense, accepting and acting on it is not lazy. It is the only wise course. It doesn’t have anything to do with needing to believe.
I know a few people who have found religion, although not fundamentalism, but I know a few more people who have lost their faith. The average person seems to act on inertia, judging by the fact that most people maintain the religion they're born into, and there are a few outliers who switch.

—Alorael, who thinks the point about Satan is a philosophical brain teaser, although most theologians probably stay away. Since the only source of information on Satan is the Bible, there's no way to know whether God wrote it or Satan did, or even if God wrote it and Satan corrupted it by tempting a few key scribes. Maybe Satan is the good guy after all and God has deceived everyone with the Bible.
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Exile 1-3 CD question in The Exile Trilogy
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Law Bringer
Member # 335
 written Wednesday, August 29 2007 18:06 Profile Homepage #2
You always get the editor with the games now.

—Alorael, who actually doesn't think it's possible to get anything but all Exiles and all editors simultaneously. It's a bargain whether or not you want it!
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noob info in General
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Law Bringer
Member # 335
 written Wednesday, August 29 2007 18:04 Profile Homepage #9
The first rule of Spiderweb is that rules will not serve you. Accept Richard White as your savior and be doomed anyway.

—Alorael, who doesn't think noobs can learn the basics any way but participating. Politeness and basic orthography will get you a long way.
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A5 Questions in Avernum 4
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Law Bringer
Member # 335
 written Tuesday, August 28 2007 14:23 Profile Homepage #46
At least you got an abacus. All we had was a stick to draw in the dirt.

—Alorael, who was always jealous of the kids whose parents could afford sharp sticks. His sticks were always completely blunt. Also they were covered with poison ivy.
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an exile mod/fan made game in The Exile Trilogy
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Law Bringer
Member # 335
 written Monday, August 27 2007 16:42 Profile Homepage #1
1. If you make a game, you can sell shirts about it. It's the game itself that's a problem.

2. No. Both either belong to Spiderweb or are licensed by Spiderweb. You have to pay someone to use them.

3. Referencing someone else's work without attributing it to the original creator and giving credit where it's due is called plagiarism. It's a bad thing.

But here's the central problem: Exile is Jeff's intellectual property. He made the game, he owns the rights, and he doesn't want you working with it. You may not make a game called Exile Online (unless it's entirely unrelated to Spiderweb's Exile). You may not base a game heavily on Exile even with a different name.

—Alorael, who is not, of course, Jeff himself. You're welcome to email him to ask questions about rights yourself, but the answer is almost certainly going to be no.
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A5 Questions in Avernum 4
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Law Bringer
Member # 335
 written Monday, August 27 2007 11:44 Profile Homepage #30
quote:
Originally written by Drakefyre:

Excuse me. Two attack frames. Right and left, baby!
Untrue! One frame, but two different graphics.

—Alorael, who sees no need for pretty animations in Avernum games. He was perfectly happy just getting highlights in earlier Exiles. It's not a stab, it's an indication that you are, in fact, performing an attack.
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# of games bought from jeff in General
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Law Bringer
Member # 335
 written Monday, August 27 2007 07:54 Profile Homepage #22
You still get both. Jeff is not going to refuse you a new registration code if you switch to a different OS.

—Alorael, who bought all of his games for PalmOS. Then he registered on a Mac.
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Easter Eggs in General
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Law Bringer
Member # 335
 written Sunday, August 26 2007 18:14 Profile Homepage #5
E1/A1 has no easter egg. The other Exiles have the same ones as their Avernum counterparts. Nethergate has an easter egg so obscure nobody ever found it until Jeff said how to get it, and I can't remember what it is. A4 doesn't have one.

—Alorael, who thinks the question is now answered.
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'Rational Mind' = Can't use a lamp?! in Nethergate
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Law Bringer
Member # 335
 written Saturday, August 25 2007 21:28 Profile Homepage #2
Potions make sense. They're no more empirically sound or unsound than wands. I think Rational Mind is a refusal to use these reality-bending items more than anything else.

Lamps are a programming decision. The easy way to set up the trait was to prevent the use of items. Most usable items are magical. Light sources are collateral damage.

—Alorael, who perhaps should think of Rational Mind as Irrationally Fixated on Mundanity. It makes more sense that way.
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# of games bought from jeff in General
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Law Bringer
Member # 335
 written Saturday, August 25 2007 21:24 Profile Homepage #13
E3, BoE, Nethergate, A1-3, and BoA. I've gotten A4, G4, N:R, and the beginning of A5 for testing.

—Alorael, who unsuccessfully attempted to register E1 when it was new. He has considered getting Geneforges, but he still isn't a big fan of the engine.
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I Win in General
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Law Bringer
Member # 335
 written Saturday, August 25 2007 21:22 Profile Homepage #19
quote:
Originally written by Iffy:

quote:
YHVH
What is that?
Seriously?

—Alorael, who thinks some four letter words are more important than others. Also, according to some, more offensive.
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Question about Avernum Trilogy CD in General
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Law Bringer
Member # 335
 written Friday, August 24 2007 18:34 Profile Homepage #1
If you get the CD, you get a full version of all the games. It really is a great deal.

—Alorael, who checked the ordering and noticed two funny things. You can no longer get Nethergate (Resurrection or the original) with another order at a huge discount, and Nethergate is now the single most expensive Spiderweb game.
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I Seek to Obtain the Meaningless Approbation of my Fellows in General
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Law Bringer
Member # 335
 written Friday, August 24 2007 12:39 Profile Homepage #8
Lemur is Ed. Mysterious Man is MM and not Ed. Do not post in before the lock, please.

—Alorael, who won't lock this now just for spite.
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A5 Questions in Avernum 4
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Law Bringer
Member # 335
 written Friday, August 24 2007 09:13 Profile Homepage #2
1. Dual-wielding was broken. Instead of trying to balance it, which would require two-handed weapons to be twice as powerful as one-handed or strange damage modifications for ambidexterity, I think just saying no works fine.

2. There's no reason the engine can't do bashing weapons, but they're just not part of Avernum anymore. They were always poor man's swords in Exile anyway.

3. Fields are nice. I think their removal might be balance-related, though. The AI probably wouldn't do too well with them, and walking through 8 AP of fields would be a mess.

4. I have no problem with weapon poison only coming with magic weapons. It's a powerful ability.

—Alorael, who was happy to see area spells reappear in A4. It's a bit of a shame there's still no way to fry your own party with a fireball, though.
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Avernum 4 save overload in Tech Support
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Law Bringer
Member # 335
 written Thursday, August 23 2007 15:22 Profile Homepage #1
If you mean you ran out of empty slots, all you have to do is save over a used slot.

—Alorael, who isn't sure what you mean by overloaded if it's not that.
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The Sky Is Falling...? in General
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Law Bringer
Member # 335
 written Thursday, August 23 2007 09:50 Profile Homepage #141
For those who have objections to science and scientists, I have several questions.

1. Is science rational?

2. If you answered yes to 1, are there other rational systems for understanding reality? (Moral and philosophical questions are another matter; science does not address them.)

3. If you answered no to 1, why? What other system is more rational?

4. Is a rational system for understanding reality a good or necessary thing?

5. If science is perfect in an ideal way but flawed because scientists are only human, what would you do hypothetically to fix the problem?

—Alorael, who does not include Hume's problem of induction in reasons to deny the rationality of science. Unless you're willing to concede that just about everything everyone does is based on irrational induction and humankind is irrevocably lost in the wilderness of the unprovable, it's irrelevant.
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After golems question in The Avernum Trilogy
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Law Bringer
Member # 335
 written Wednesday, August 22 2007 17:46 Profile Homepage #7
Actually, you don't have to complete the painful fight even without the weapon. Haste and running work just as well.

—Alorael, who did that after getting bored waiting for the Bunker to finish its work.
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