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Trait/race bonus effects in Avernum 4
Law Bringer
Member # 335
Profile Homepage #39
Okay, time to add luck to my party. I've been neglecting it.

Cotra is an excellent place to add two points of Priest to fighters, but I still didn't get much use out of it. I found myself shooting arrows more than spells and letting my real casters heal more often.

—Alorael, who will need to rethink his item hauling strategies if he has to lug much more stuff around. His strength will no longer be sufficient.
Posts: 14579 | Registered: Saturday, December 1 2001 08:00
spoiler about Tor in tower in Avernum 4
Law Bringer
Member # 335
Profile Homepage #15
Be fair. Geneforge 1 is new and even fairly original. It's certainly more original than Exile/Avernum, which is really just generic fantasy set mostly underground. From my understanding, though, the Geneforge sequels just recycle the first game painfully.

Nethergate is wonderful.

—Alorael, who can enjoy the Avernums (A3 less so, but it's still fun) without trying to say that they're original. He prefers Avernum to Exile, but he'd really prefer a new plot. A4 is not a new plot because it's not really a plot at all.
Posts: 14579 | Registered: Saturday, December 1 2001 08:00
Singleton party in Avernum 4
Law Bringer
Member # 335
Profile Homepage #6
You need a mage because the game is unwinnable without Dispel Barriers. You cannot wear armor and cast spells without Natural Mage, and even that prevents more than 20% encumberance. No Emerald Chestguard. Removing your armor before dispelling is possible but messy.

—Alorael, who has never been brave enough to attempt a singleton even in the games that make it possible.
Posts: 14579 | Registered: Saturday, December 1 2001 08:00
AV3: Character editor wont reset hostile towns in Tech Support
Law Bringer
Member # 335
Profile Homepage #1
The editor for which game?

—Alorael, who would also like to know how exactly the editor fails to edit gold. What happens when you click "Change gold" or whatever it's labeled, change the number, and save?
Posts: 14579 | Registered: Saturday, December 1 2001 08:00
Chemistry at home, part 12 in General
Law Bringer
Member # 335
Profile Homepage #47
Actually, government-funded medical science has gotten more and more bizarre. The administration's goals take precedence over the results of studies, which are spun or just buried as higher-ups see fit. Budgets get tighter as less funds are alotted but, for whatever reason, useless science gets money thrown at it. Like biodefense, which has produced nothing but not for lack of money.

—Alorael, who has just committed second degree ranting. To make up for it, he'll query as to how oxygen is less dangerous than water. Dehydration is bad. So is catching on fire.
Posts: 14579 | Registered: Saturday, December 1 2001 08:00
Trait/race bonus effects in Avernum 4
Law Bringer
Member # 335
Profile Homepage #32
I've started a new game with a slightly different party build. I'll see how it goes.

My question is how often you're going to find yourself broke, or what you're skimping on to afford skills. You're looking at tens of thousands of coins spent on skills. Does that mean buying no spells, selling all your potions, or what?

—Alorael, who has only just started and just reached Fort Draco himself. So far everything has died with remarkable speed, but it's always the Eastern Gallery that starts inflicting pain. Having piles of skilled archers (none with any points actuall spent on archery) seems to make a huge difference, though. Everything not only dies, it dies from a distance.
Posts: 14579 | Registered: Saturday, December 1 2001 08:00
Game Life in General
Law Bringer
Member # 335
Profile Homepage #53
When I tried to play Homeland, I noticed that there were scissors on my desk. I considered playing Homeland further or giving myself minor flesh wounds with a stainless steel implement. This was a serious consideration, and it drove home the fact that Homeland is a bad thing.

—Alorael, who revoked Homeland's right to exist on his computer. That's saying something given the fact that he considers the Virtual PC part of his computer something like a virtual slum.
Posts: 14579 | Registered: Saturday, December 1 2001 08:00
Demonslayer in Avernum 4
Law Bringer
Member # 335
Profile Homepage #20
The Code of Conduct

I'm entertained by your denial of double posting followed immediately by admission that you don't know what it is, and then your edited comment that implies that you do know what it means.

I am still Alorael.

—Alorael, who may be led down the dangerous path of existential doubt. What if he isn't Alorael? What if he hasn't been Alorael the whole time?
Posts: 14579 | Registered: Saturday, December 1 2001 08:00
Nethergate News in Nethergate
Law Bringer
Member # 335
Profile Homepage #11
I think Nethergate was an experiment. If that registration had worked better, subsequent games would have stuck with it. They didn't, so I wouldn't expect them now.

—Alorael, who doesn't understand why Nethergate is CD only. The Blades download and CD is much more immediate gratification-oriented.
Posts: 14579 | Registered: Saturday, December 1 2001 08:00
Alchemy in Avernum 4
Law Bringer
Member # 335
Profile Homepage #16
In my first game I had far more trouble with the large fight under the Sulfurous Flats than with Nocidua. In subsequent games Nocidua has been harder. I don't know whether it's from party changes or balance changes in later betas and the final version.

—Alorael, who actually liked the Flats battle a lot more when he could barely get through it alive.
Posts: 14579 | Registered: Saturday, December 1 2001 08:00
Purely in the Interest of Role Playing. in Avernum 4
Law Bringer
Member # 335
Profile Homepage #22
That was a very subtle (read: stupid) pun on nepharim being larger than nephilim.

—Alorael, who wonders if the nepharim gene carriers get any particular advantage from it.
Posts: 14579 | Registered: Saturday, December 1 2001 08:00
Purely in the Interest of Role Playing. in Avernum 4
Law Bringer
Member # 335
Profile Homepage #17
I switched to OS X this past August. It was a good thing.

—Alorael, who also held onto 640 x 480 long past the expiration date. The 20th century will get him kicking and screaming. The 21st century can stand in line.
Posts: 14579 | Registered: Saturday, December 1 2001 08:00
Trainer skill listing in Avernum 4
Law Bringer
Member # 335
Profile Homepage #19
It's possible to play Spiderweb games without reloading when bad things happen, but it's probably less possible than in Angband to play without ever getting wiped out. What always stands out in my mind is the hole in the former nephil castle in E2 where you can get a party member killed instantly. Things like that are part of life in reload land.

—Alorael, who is a firm believer in playing Angband by reaching level 50 without venturing more than 50 feet down. Not literally, of course, but in spirit. That and a lot of time spent in vault territory with teleport other handy will get you Ringil, a pile of life potions, and the courage to venture all the way to the botom.
Posts: 14579 | Registered: Saturday, December 1 2001 08:00
Chemistry at home, part 12 in General
Law Bringer
Member # 335
Profile Homepage #45
I stay awake late at night worrying about what will happen when there are too many subcategories. Will the Dewey system break down and leave libraries in utter chaos? Will L-space absorb all of existence?

I usually fall asleep about then.

—Alorael, who thinks the problem is that math is pure but not science and science is science but not pure. Especially biology, which seems to be less pure and more tainted by theology every day.
Posts: 14579 | Registered: Saturday, December 1 2001 08:00
Purely in the Interest of Role Playing. in Avernum 4
Law Bringer
Member # 335
Profile Homepage #14
No, it makes sense. I just completely missed Vlish's post. I must've hit page down at the wrong moment. The fact that I talked about nepharim as a crossbreed was purely coincidental.

From what I remember of E1, nepharim were still just nephils on genetic steroids.

—Alorael, who would guess that the nephar gene is recessive. Nephilim are nn or Nn and nepharim are NN.
Posts: 14579 | Registered: Saturday, December 1 2001 08:00
Purely in the Interest of Role Playing. in Avernum 4
Law Bringer
Member # 335
Profile Homepage #11
What prompted that? We were talking about justifying the Divinely Touched trait for nephil party members and nepharim aren't involved at all.

—Alorael, who is sure there are quite a few more places that describe nepharim. It sparked a debate for a while over whether nepharim were like mules in that they were sterile or like mules in that they were halfbreeds. The consensus is the former.
Posts: 14579 | Registered: Saturday, December 1 2001 08:00
Haggling in Avernum 4
Law Bringer
Member # 335
Profile Homepage #4
Complaints accompany any change. There are people who haven't forgiven Spiderweb for abandoning Exile for Avernum (or Nethergate), people who hate Geneforge, and now A4 gets its doomsayers too.

—Alorael, who will wait for the septuagenarian eskimos to do their voting with their wallets. That will determine the course of Spiderweb's future and little things like whether plots for games are efficient use of time.
Posts: 14579 | Registered: Saturday, December 1 2001 08:00
Chemistry at home, part 12 in General
Law Bringer
Member # 335
Profile Homepage #41
Everything is specialization. Botany and nephrology (kidneys) don't have much in common, but they're both biology. But all living things are only alive because of chemical interactions and physics, and when you get down to it chemical interactions are in fact just matter and energy, which falls under the heading of physics.

—Alorael, who will still say that physics originates with experiments and math originates with pure numbers. Galileo rolled balls down ramps before making predictions and Kepler's laws are based on the painstaking observations of Brahe. Maybe it's more accurate to say that physics, like all sciences, tries to explain reality while mathematics is quite happy to create new areas of thought for which laws must be made. Andrew Wiles is famous for proving something that has minimal effect on anything practical.
Posts: 14579 | Registered: Saturday, December 1 2001 08:00
Where is the key ? in Avernum 4
Law Bringer
Member # 335
Profile Homepage #4
The thing that's even more likely to cause problems is remembering names. Don't forget that Giscard is the rich snob who lives southwest of Formello.

—Alorael, who doesn't even remember if there's a key. It's possible that the door inexplicably unlocks when you're sent to it.
Posts: 14579 | Registered: Saturday, December 1 2001 08:00
The End is near... in General
Law Bringer
Member # 335
Profile Homepage #30
We now have two consecutive links to Apophis. It must be twice as likely to kill us all! Well, maybe not kill us all, but I think I disaster of that magnitude could count as the end of the world. Let's not get too picky. Most events aren't likely to sterilize the entire surface of the Earth.

—Alorael, who doesn't believe in the theory of intelligent falling. It's much more interesting as a philosophical point. Are all forces mediated by God?
Posts: 14579 | Registered: Saturday, December 1 2001 08:00
Chemistry at home, part 12 in General
Law Bringer
Member # 335
Profile Homepage #35
Calling physics a subset of math is problematic. Physics certainly depends on math, but pure math is divorced from non-theoretical applications in a way physics is not.

—Alorael, who expressed that poorly. More succinctly, physics can depend on experimentation and math cannot.
Posts: 14579 | Registered: Saturday, December 1 2001 08:00
Bug/oddity (possible spoilers for Spire) in Avernum 4
Law Bringer
Member # 335
Profile Homepage #4
Huh. This is an interesting change from the beta when the conversation option just made the conversation end with nobody hostile and attacking made all of Spire hostile.

—Alorael, who can't explain the reasoning for either the old way or the new one.
Posts: 14579 | Registered: Saturday, December 1 2001 08:00
Trainer skill listing in Avernum 4
Law Bringer
Member # 335
Profile Homepage #15
Think opportunity cost. There are a few spells for which buying levels is helpful. Minor Heal, Curing, Bolt of Fire, and all the other low level ones spring to mind because I use them all the time to the end of the game. For the rest, I'd really rather have more skills. There weren't spells I used frequently enough to merit the large cost for modest increases in power.

—Alorael, who isn't sure what kind of roleplaying justifies suboptimal choices. If you're going to be risking life and limb for Avernum, you're going to want to minimize risks as much as possible! (Roleplaying justifies munchkining, QED.)
Posts: 14579 | Registered: Saturday, December 1 2001 08:00
Its Almost Christmas in General
Law Bringer
Member # 335
Profile Homepage #8
I don't celebrate Christmas, but I do celebrate the fact that all my friends and relations are off from school and work and can cram into one house for food, conversation, and loud arguments.

—Alorael, who would call it a Chanukkah celebration if he were feeling especially ethnic, which he isn't.
Posts: 14579 | Registered: Saturday, December 1 2001 08:00
spoiler about Tor in tower in Avernum 4
Law Bringer
Member # 335
Profile Homepage #9
Tor was in charge of handing out supplies in Fort Avernum in A1, a farmer near Fort Draco in A2, and is now once again working for the mages in Fort Avernum in A4.

You should really just register the game and play for yourself, you know. It's rather frustrating to explain everything that comes up in every thread.

—Alorael, who can't say it helps that the explanations seem to go entirely ignored.
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