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Geneforge (Crescent Stone-Bearing Creatures) in Geneforge Series
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It doesn't look crescent shaped - it looks just like every other rock in the game.

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We meet and part now over all the world;
we, the lost company,
take hands together in the night, forget
the night in our brief happiness, silently.
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Geneforge (Crescent Stone-Bearing Creatures) in Geneforge
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It doesn't look crescent shaped - it looks just like every other rock in the game.

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we, the lost company,
take hands together in the night, forget
the night in our brief happiness, silently.
-- Judith Wright

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Suicide in General
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Originally written by laoran:

The subject is very difficult, just because I don't know if I am going to help or to cause harm.

According to me, suicide has ties with the need to explore. Humans like to explore : traveling, sport, feelings (drugs), taking risk.
Suicide is, according to me, part of the risk.
Drugs is not only for sad/depressive people. It is also an exploration (many great singers died because of drugs).

I really appreciate that some people want to travel as far as their mind wants to go. I know it is dangerous, and sometimes I'd like to stop the process (what normal people call help), but sometimes I prefer to just let them go.
Sometimes people go too far, but you could say the same thing for sailors. And sometimes people come back, and they may then bring us things (thoughts, feelings) than only they can bring.

Many of those great singers died because they had a problem with drug abuse. Those deaths were tragedies, not something to glorify.

The biggest risk anyone can take (and one we do every day) is simply to live and to go on living. To make choices and accept the consequences of those choices. Every choice we make is a risk - do I go to this college or that one, ask that person out or not, accept this job or not, eat my own cooking (and for me, that one's a HUGE risk IMAGE(wink0002.gif) )

I've never understood 'adrenaline junkies' who have to live out on the edge so that they can feel they are living. There are many ways to explore our lives and our world without losing sanity, breaking bones or risking lives.

Perhaps the closest I can come to understanding the adrenaline high is vicariously, through surviving close fights in MUDs and RPGs.

[ Tuesday, March 23, 2004 04:01: Message edited by: Kyna ]

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We meet and part now over all the world;
we, the lost company,
take hands together in the night, forget
the night in our brief happiness, silently.
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Mac or PC? in General
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Most non-Spiderweb games are released for windows first, and ported to mac later - if they're ported at all. Spiderweb does it the other way round because Jeff has a mac. If he was rabidly anti-PC, he wouldn't bother to port at all.

Note that I am a windows user. I can wait a few months - it gives people time to find bugs missed in beta testing, start writing walkthroughs/faqs, and in the case of BOA, start working on scenarios.

The strength of BOA (like BOE) will be in its player-written scenarios. It will take time before there's a collection of quality scenarios. Once we've played the 4 scenarios that come with the game, the game will probably sit unused while we wait (for those of us not interested in writing them). That waiting period between purchasing the game and downloading good scenarios will be shorter for us windows users - in case you hadn't noticed, mac users are already starting to create scenarios.

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We meet and part now over all the world;
we, the lost company,
take hands together in the night, forget
the night in our brief happiness, silently.
-- Judith Wright

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improvements for geneforge 3.... your thoughts in Geneforge Series
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Technically this was not news. See this post by Drakefyre, written last June (before GF2 was released).

I can understand your excitement, but there really was no need to put this post in 4 separate threads.

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we, the lost company,
take hands together in the night, forget
the night in our brief happiness, silently.
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improvements for geneforge 3.... your thoughts in Geneforge 2
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Technically this was not news. See this post by Drakefyre, written last June (before GF2 was released).

I can understand your excitement, but there really was no need to put this post in 4 separate threads.

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We meet and part now over all the world;
we, the lost company,
take hands together in the night, forget
the night in our brief happiness, silently.
-- Judith Wright

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Suicide in General
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I don't think you can sum up a topic as personal as this one. We all have different outlooks on life, death and suicide. I'm not sure I want this topic to fade off the boards - in Australia suicide is a serious social issue, and I'm sure it is in other parts of the world too. I think it's a good thing we've been able to discuss it (and mostly with sensitivity), as it's a subject that's often swept under the carpet.

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What is the role of Providence in the affairs of men? what does life mean? what makes a life worthwhile? How should we love our lives? How does each of us fit into the granduer design?
The role of Providence in the affairs of men? I'm a Christian, and I can see how God has affected my life. But that's how He's affected my life, and it doesn't necessarily apply to anyone else or to the human race as a whole.
What does life mean? Heh, I'm 41 and haven't got this one figured out. Maybe I'll let you know after my next birthday (with a wink to the Douglas Adams fans on the board).
What's made my life worthwhile? Setting myself some achievable goals that will satisfy me on an intellectual and emotional level, and working towards achieving them. And these are my goals, not goals set for me by the demands, needs or wishes of family, friends or community.
How should we love our lives? This is going to sound so preachy - and it's just my opinion. We need to cherish and value ourselves for our strengths and our weaknesses. We don't have to be perfect, it's ok to be less than perfect. We need to appreciate our uniqueness, no two people are alike. It's ok to be different, diversity is cool.
How does each of us fit into the grander design? Tough question. I don't know that there is a 'grander design'. God gave us free will, I don't believe we live lives that are preplanned by God to fit some grander design of His.

Kyna

[ Thursday, March 18, 2004 06:12: Message edited by: Kyna ]

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We meet and part now over all the world;
we, the lost company,
take hands together in the night, forget
the night in our brief happiness, silently.
-- Judith Wright

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Suicide in General
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Interesting discussion so far. If you're not interested in self-disclosure, skip this post.

11 years ago my youngest brother (he was in his mid twenties) committed suicide. It was a carefully planned act and none of us have ever been able to fathom why. I've come to terms with the fact that we'll never know why, other family members haven't come to terms with this yet. My mother is still convinced it was "her fault" somehow, when there's no fault to be apportioned.

I've attempted suicide twice in my life. Each time I was at a low point in my life, and I honestly couldn't see any way out of the bad situation I was in. Fortunately, after the 2nd time (about 5 years ago) I was diagnosed with depression and post traumatic stress disorder (PTSD), I was prescribed medication with regulated my serotonin levels and had some cognitive behaviour therapy (CBT). Last year I finally felt that I was 'rational' enough to make some major life changes, and I'm now happier than I'd ever believed was possible. I think the depression is finally gone IMAGE(smile000.gif) , although I still have the PTSD and have experienced symptoms this week.

I think it was the combination of medication, CBT and loving support from family members (especially my children and my mother) that helped me. The serotonin regulated my brain chemistry, enabling me to get on with life while I was going through CBT. The CBT helped me to get over the perfectionist tendencies that were instilled in me from childhood. Some of us learn that it's not ok to make mistakes - and when we screw up we can carry the guilt for a very long time. For people who learn to be perfectionists, when our lives screw up it's a MAJOR disaster psychologically. We think that nobody likes us, that we're total failures, that nobody will miss us, that the world would be a far better place if we'd never existed and the only thing to do is to remove ourselves from the world - with the added benefit that this would end the pain we're feeling. And this is where the loving support did it's part. People had faith in me when I didn't have any in myself, and that got me through. At first I underwent treatment to justify their faith in me, eventually I reached the point where I wanted to recover for my own sake.

I believe that both depression and PTSD are valid illnesses. My GP recently described PTSD as an injury (there are some studies that indicate it causes physical changes to the brain). The fact that people can recover from depression, or manage it with medication, indicates that it's an illness and not some moral flaw or weakness that deserves to be stigmatized.

BTW, at the time of my first attempt there were a lot of things going wrong in my life - the final straw came when the man I was married to at the time told me to "snap out of it" within 2 months of my grandfather passing away and my brother's suicide. Telling a depressed person to "pull themselves together" only makes them feel like more of a failure and hastens the decision to suicide.

Kyna

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We meet and part now over all the world;
we, the lost company,
take hands together in the night, forget
the night in our brief happiness, silently.
-- Judith Wright

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well... Goodevening sirs in General
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Unless you're Chicken Little

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take hands together in the night, forget
the night in our brief happiness, silently.
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will spidweb ever change? in General
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I didn't hear of Spiderweb games until early this year, when my daughter told me about Geneforge.

When I did hear about them, I didn't think "Oh wow, I'm such a loser because I didn't know about these games before". I thought "Wow, what cool games, thanks Faizah for telling me IMAGE(Spiderweb Software Boards will spidweb ever change2_files/smile.gif) . They'll even run on my computer!". (BTW, this was at a time when my mental health issues were affecting me so badly that I was in the middle of an 8 month period off work - optimism wasn't one of my strong points at the time.)

Does it really matter that you didn't hear of these other games until this week? Now you've heard about them you can go check them out and have some fun.

EDIT: Ironweed, I hate driving ... any chance you'll volunteer to be my chaffeur?

[ Wednesday, October 22, 2003 00:01: Message edited by: Kyna ]

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We meet and part now over all the world;
we, the lost company,
take hands together in the night, forget
the night in our brief happiness, silently.
-- Judith Wright

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Blades of Exile or Blades of Avernum in Blades of Avernum
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quote:
from this page on Spiderweb Software's site:
Avernum 3 is a complete, ground-up rewrite of a game which came out in 1997 … Exile 3
BTW, did you know you can edit your posts? It's preferable to edit your post instead of making two consecutive posts in a thread.

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We meet and part now over all the world;
we, the lost company,
take hands together in the night, forget
the night in our brief happiness, silently.
-- Judith Wright

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Blades of Exile or Blades of Avernum in Blades of Avernum
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Blades of Avernum (when it is released) will be the Avernum version of Blades of Exile.

I don't know which map you are talking about, as Blades of Avernum has not been released yet.

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We meet and part now over all the world;
we, the lost company,
take hands together in the night, forget
the night in our brief happiness, silently.
-- Judith Wright

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will spidweb ever change? in General
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I hope they don't get into 'real 3d'. My first experience with a graphic rpg was horrifying ... you looked out from the eyes of your party. I found movement was confusing and clumsy - not to mention trying my first fight. I didn't touch another graphic RPG for a decade.

The graphics used in Spiderweb games make for small files that can be quickly downloaded (even for users with slower modems). The games run on older machines and you don't need to upgrade your computer every time another Spiderweb game is released.

The games don't have whiz-bang 'state of the art' graphics. Unlike many games that do focus on the graphics, they have great plot and gameplay. I'd rather have the plot and gameplay over the fancy graphics any day.

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We meet and part now over all the world;
we, the lost company,
take hands together in the night, forget
the night in our brief happiness, silently.
-- Judith Wright

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How many of you people are above 35 years old and still.. in General
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Since finding Geneforge at the beginning of this year (at 40 years of age) I've gone on to play the Exile series, Avernum series, BOE and Nethergate. Abandoned my most recent game of A3 because of the release of GF2.

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We meet and part now over all the world;
we, the lost company,
take hands together in the night, forget
the night in our brief happiness, silently.
-- Judith Wright

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Sorry if this is not Spiderweb related. I need advice, and ideas... in General
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If you haven't talked a lot to him, then how do you know how you really feel about him?

It sounds like you know him from a distance, which isn't a strong basis for deciding whether you like someone or not. You need to get to know somebody and they need to get to know you before you can decide whether you really like their personality.

I suggest you get to know this guy better, and let him get to know you. Try and make friends with him. You could find you don't really like him ... or you could put yourself in the position of being in the right place at the right time if this other relationship doesn't last.

EDIT: I agree with everyone else who suggested you do not try to break up any relationship he is in. It's never a good idea to do that.

[ Sunday, October 19, 2003 05:40: Message edited by: Kyna ]

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We meet and part now over all the world;
we, the lost company,
take hands together in the night, forget
the night in our brief happiness, silently.
-- Judith Wright

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Time in General
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The time difference between South Australia and Queensland is only 30 minutes.

So, if it's 12.15am in Queensland (and I believe you meant am not pm - as it's the middle of the night, not afternoon) it would be 11.45pm in South Australia.

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We meet and part now over all the world;
we, the lost company,
take hands together in the night, forget
the night in our brief happiness, silently.
-- Judith Wright

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Extrapolated 100m (4.972chains or 109.4yards) spirnt times in General
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To convert your speed over 100m to a km/hour figure is misleading. Your figures imply that in one hour you could run 29.5km

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We meet and part now over all the world;
we, the lost company,
take hands together in the night, forget
the night in our brief happiness, silently.
-- Judith Wright

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suicide methodes in General
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Interesting question.

Thinking of when my grandfather died, trying to imagine me holding the needle.

When it comes right down to it, I couldn't. I'd never be sure afterwards if it was my choice because I didn't want to see a loved one suffering, rather than the other person's choice. And of course, there's 'thou shalt not kill', which I take seriously.

There's a doctor here in Australia who has assisted a couple of terminally ill patients. He had provided some sort of machine that can administer a lethal dose of morphine. The patient has sole control over when that lethal dosage is administered. He assisted one person when it was temporarily legal in the Northern Territory, and I vaguely recall another case afterwards. The woman died peacefully with her family around her, in her own bed.

That's the ideal, I guess. Where the person concerned makes their own free and unpressured choice, and doesn't force another person to hold the needle and live with the guilt and doubt.

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We meet and part now over all the world;
we, the lost company,
take hands together in the night, forget
the night in our brief happiness, silently.
-- Judith Wright

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suicide methodes in General
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Stughalf, I think in these right-to-life arguments (as in any other arguments) there is no black and white. There will always be shades of grey.

I personally support euthanasia for terminally ill patients who have reached the end stages of their illness, if they are of sound mind (and not depressed) when they make the choice.

I watched my grandparents die. From diagnosis to death was about 15 years for my grandfather and about 6 months for my grandmother. Both of them retained a strong will to live until the last few weeks. Once they reached the end stages of their illnesses they were in constant pain (in spite of being medicated into near insensibility). Both knew they had terminal illnesses, and that they were not going to recover.

Euthanasia is illegal where I live. I watched these people I loved die in intense agony because of a principle about the 'sanctity of life'. About 36 hours before his death in hospital, my grandfather asked the ward doctor for assistance to die. The doctor refused to help him. My grandfather spent the next 36 hours in extreme pain. What was the point in that extra 36 hours of life? What good did it serve? Where's the sanctity in suffering?

Having said I support euthanasia, I think any euthanasia laws would need plenty of safeguards against things like family pressure and pressure from the state (with an overburdened welfare/health system).

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We meet and part now over all the world;
we, the lost company,
take hands together in the night, forget
the night in our brief happiness, silently.
-- Judith Wright

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The "About us" topic in General
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You know, there's "Little 15" and "Sixteen Candles" and "I'm Eighteen (And I Don't Know What I Want" but I'm afraid I don't know anything for 17.

At Seventeen, sung by Janis Ian - although that might be a bit before your time. (From the early 70s, IIRC).

Here's a link to the lyrics.

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We meet and part now over all the world;
we, the lost company,
take hands together in the night, forget
the night in our brief happiness, silently.
-- Judith Wright

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Questions in desperate need of answering! in General
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1. I use private messages.

2. No idea. Didn't need long trousers as they had hairy legs, maybe?

3. As already stated, many of us here would probably be eligible to join Mensa (including myself). I think people who see a point in joining Mensa would probably admit to membership.

4. It's not total spam - the first question has some relevance. I've seen spammier topics.

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We meet and part now over all the world;
we, the lost company,
take hands together in the night, forget
the night in our brief happiness, silently.
-- Judith Wright

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How old are you? in General
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40, I'll be 41 next month. My daughter Faizah, who sometimes posts in the Geneforge forum, is 20.

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We meet and part now over all the world;
we, the lost company,
take hands together in the night, forget
the night in our brief happiness, silently.
-- Judith Wright

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Not again... in Tech Support
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You don't add/remove plus, which is why it wasn't there. The second tab across the top in add/remove programs is 'windows setup'. Since plus integrates into windows, you need to use windows setup to uninstall the desktop themes.

A reformat is much more serious than a defragment. It's the option of last resort after everything else has been tried, as it deletes everything on your hard drive and you have to reinstall everything. It sounds like you've seriously messed up your windows setup, and reformat is probably the only option left to you. Back up any important documents or saved games on floppy/CD disc before you try it.

EDIT: I very strongly suggest that you don't use the format command yourself. Get your parents to do it - format is not a command to be used unless you are sure you know how to install windows on a blank HD.

[ Saturday, October 04, 2003 16:03: Message edited by: Kyna ]

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We meet and part now over all the world;
we, the lost company,
take hands together in the night, forget
the night in our brief happiness, silently.
-- Judith Wright

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members who were once wanderers in General
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I lurked for about a month before I felt the need to register so that I could post something. It's a habit of mine when I go to a new board, dating back to when I used to visit newsgroups a lot. It gives me a chance to observe posting behaviour and get an idea of what's ok and what's not.

Does the number of wanderers include people who have turned on the 'hide from recent visitors' feature?

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we, the lost company,
take hands together in the night, forget
the night in our brief happiness, silently.
-- Judith Wright

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Nephil in General
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Lol, as you were using google for bible study, I was searching google for 'nephil' and comparing that verse to my Good News Bible.

In the Good News version of the Bible, Genesis 6:4 reads:

"In those days, and even later, there were giants on the earth and who were descendants of human women and the heavenly beings. They were the great heroes and famous men of long ago."

My google search also found a site that said Nephil came from the Hebrew word 'naphal' meaning 'to fall, which can mean a fall, a deterioration, in the moral sense'. The same site went on to say that in the Hebrew language 'nephilim' has the meaning of 'giants'. It can refer to mental rather than to physical giants.

So Nephil could mean these great heroes & famous men who were descended from heavenly beings/sons of God. Or possibly the offspring of "fallen angels", as another site put it.

So, I guess it kinda makes sense that Spiderweb's nephilim have been exiled to the underworld.

Edit: added the hebrew words and their meanings.

[ Saturday, October 04, 2003 01:19: Message edited by: Kyna ]

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We meet and part now over all the world;
we, the lost company,
take hands together in the night, forget
the night in our brief happiness, silently.
-- Judith Wright

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