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I was just wondering if Nephil are trademarks of Spiderweb cause there is another commercial game using them ?...?

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I don't think nephilim (or nephil) are trademarks because the word originally came from the bible. But anyway, which game is using it and do you have a link to it?

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It'd be interesting to compare.

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Nephil does come from the Bible, where it has been variously translated to mean things ranging between angels and giants. Thus, I suspect it wouldn't be posisble to copyright the name any more than it would be possible to copyright goblins or elves.

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Genesis 6
4 The Nephilim were on the earth in those days-and also afterward-when the sons of God went to the daughters of men and had children by them. They were the heroes of old, men of renown.

lol Ive never even read the bible and here I am posting quotes from it!
(note: I saw this topic and wanted to find what it says about the nephilim in the bible. So I searched bible search under google and got a bible search engine)

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Lol, as you were using google for bible study, I was searching google for 'nephil' and comparing that verse to my Good News Bible.

In the Good News version of the Bible, Genesis 6:4 reads:

"In those days, and even later, there were giants on the earth and who were descendants of human women and the heavenly beings. They were the great heroes and famous men of long ago."

My google search also found a site that said Nephil came from the Hebrew word 'naphal' meaning 'to fall, which can mean a fall, a deterioration, in the moral sense'. The same site went on to say that in the Hebrew language 'nephilim' has the meaning of 'giants'. It can refer to mental rather than to physical giants.

So Nephil could mean these great heroes & famous men who were descended from heavenly beings/sons of God. Or possibly the offspring of "fallen angels", as another site put it.

So, I guess it kinda makes sense that Spiderweb's nephilim have been exiled to the underworld.

Edit: added the hebrew words and their meanings.

[ Saturday, October 04, 2003 01:19: Message edited by: Kyna ]

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stop it your making me want to read the bible, no NOOOOOO!! It burns it burns!

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"'We wish the return of Linda.' they said. 'Oh, swell. She only summoned a demon lord into the tower once, she's only mildly insane, what a beautiful idea! Let's proceed at once!' I said'
"'We appreciate your acquiesence,' they said. And that was that. Sarcasm is lost on that lot." He kicks a wall in irritation.
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What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it.
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They'll be posting the geneologies next - if we have band width and patience enough!
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Lemme guess, sliths are in the Bible to?

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No, Sliths are Exile-specific in name, but intelligent lizard-men are hardly a new idea.

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There actually was (maybe still is) a topic about this in the Exile series. There one can even found out about the origin of the word troglodyte.

Oh, and the name of the topic was "Why is it so?"
Posts: 756 | Registered: Monday, August 4 2003 07:00
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quote: Troglodyte noun
1: a cave dweller
2: a person who is deliberately ignorant or old-fashioned.
Derivatives: troglodytic adjective troglodytism noun
Origin Greek troglodutes from the name of ethiopian people, influenced by trogle 'hole' I go this from my Word Power dictionary. Anyway I think the only word that doesn't have a non-spiderweb is Vahnatai

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And Slithzerikai.

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Returning to the original question, WHAT other game is using Nephilim and how are they different from the Exile version? I'm sort of interested.
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There is a pen-and-paper rpg named Nephilim.
Also the Whitewolf game Demon: the Fallen refers to Nephilim in the text
somewhere but then it's very biblical anyway.
Other than that,

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http://chronicle.ubi.com/

They don't have them yet but they will in the expansion pack. Their Nephil are more half men, half devil, rather then catmen.

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Ambititon is a poor
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Sticks and stones may
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lead pipes will do it
faster.
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