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Difficulty - does it ever get harder? in Geneforge Series
Zeviz
Nuke and Pave
Member # 24
 written Thursday, July 7 2005 18:21 Profile Homepage #5
I'd agree with Walter. The Shaper with all points sunk into Intelligence is as strong in Geneforge 1 as Guarding with max Parry is in Geneforge 2.

If you want more challenge, try playing an Agent in early game or a Guardian in late game.

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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00
Difficulty - does it ever get harder? in Geneforge
Zeviz
Nuke and Pave
Member # 24
 written Thursday, July 7 2005 18:21 Profile Homepage #5
I'd agree with Walter. The Shaper with all points sunk into Intelligence is as strong in Geneforge 1 as Guarding with max Parry is in Geneforge 2.

If you want more challenge, try playing an Agent in early game or a Guardian in late game.

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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00
FAQ/walkthrough is up in Geneforge Series
Zeviz
Nuke and Pave
Member # 24
 written Thursday, July 7 2005 16:26 Profile Homepage #52
Here are some extra tips. (If you want to add them to the tips section of your FAQ.)

General Tips
1. Explore hostile areas in combat mode. This has several advantages:

i) Lets you see enemies before they see you. (Especially if you never spend all movement points and let your scouts retreat whenever they see an enemy.)

ii) Lets your blessing spells last through several fights.

iii) Lets you explore the area more quickly, with different creations exploring different parts of the map.

General Combat Tips
(What to do if you keep getting killed.)

1. Blessing and Protection spells make a huge difference. Use them for most battles to save yourself a lot of pain (and healing spores).

2. Speed is essential for difficult battles. However, Shapers with many creations will find Mass Energize to be more cost-effective for speeding up their entire party.

3. Many missile creatures (pylons, serviles with acid batons, etc.) are a lot less dangerous at close range. So when you are dealing with a group of them, send a creature to stand next to each one, while you kill them one at a time. Thahd Shades are ideal for this because of their high defense and poison resistance.

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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00
Harry Potter in General
Zeviz
Nuke and Pave
Member # 24
 written Thursday, July 7 2005 16:05 Profile Homepage #73
Stug, now I am very intrigued. I can't think of any fairy tale that would be so dark and graphic that its lurid details would be so firmly imprinted in reader's memory. :) Could you PM me whatever you remember about that book.

Hawk King, I don't think Russians are any more violent than Americans, or anybody else (at least based on the people I've encountered). As for darkness in some of our literature, it's more of a reflection of willingness to admit the existence of bad things in life.

And there is plenty of dark Western literature. Brothers Grim are a classic example in fairy tales department. (I've looked over Grim fairy tales yesterday and they look even less child-appropriate than latest Harry Potter books. :) )

[ Thursday, July 07, 2005 16:09: Message edited by: Zeviz ]

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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00
What games have YOU registered? in General
Zeviz
Nuke and Pave
Member # 24
 written Thursday, July 7 2005 15:57 Profile Homepage #18
The difference between polls and actual threads is that threads let you see who has wich opinions, as opposed to anonimous polls, which just show overall statistics.

As for me, I've registered Avernum 2 + Nethergate, SubTerra, BOE (as prize for SubTerra design contest), Geneforge 1 (beta tested), Geneforge 2 and Geneforge 3.

PS Creator, the comprehensiveness of your poll is a bit overwhelming. I keep planning to look over old Exile games again to remember what I thought about them before answering the poll.

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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00
London Bombings in General
Zeviz
Nuke and Pave
Member # 24
 written Thursday, July 7 2005 15:42 Profile Homepage #27
My condolences to everybody who was affected by this attack.

PS I am very impressed by the fact that this thread remained free of political arguments so far and I hope that it stays that way.

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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00
Scipting Resources in Geneforge Series
Zeviz
Nuke and Pave
Member # 24
 written Wednesday, July 6 2005 08:16 Profile Homepage #4
If you combine the links into a single webpage, they might add it to the forum header when they update it to include the editors.

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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00
favorite character type? in Geneforge Series
Zeviz
Nuke and Pave
Member # 24
 written Wednesday, July 6 2005 08:08 Profile Homepage #23
Are you sure you were talking to Greta and not the cowardly student in the school? Greta meets you in the middle of village when you exit the school.

EDIT: About original topic of the thread, I prefer shapers, because they are the class unique to this game and fit best with the environment. All other RPGs have fighters and mages, but the whole idea of Geneforge is to make and manage your own army.

[ Wednesday, July 06, 2005 08:11: Message edited by: Zeviz ]

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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00
Care in the Community in Richard White Games
Zeviz
Nuke and Pave
Member # 24
 written Tuesday, July 5 2005 19:03 Profile Homepage #39
OOC: This is not related to election campaigning. I am just having fun. Perhaps I should withdraw my candidacy to avoid misunderstandings.
_____________________________
IC:

*Personal and Confidential*
*Destroy after reading.*

Dear Icshi,

I would like to thank you for the interest you've shown in EVOL party. If you want to hear more about our program, there are two versions for you to chose from. The junk we are feeding the public (and that we would like to distribute through your publishing house) can be found here. However, the real program of our party involves complete world domination. While elementary business practice dictates that it is better to be loved, rather than hated, some of our literature mentions "treatment centers" for various "criminals". Perhaps you'll be interested in helping us design and run these "treatment centers", in addition to distributing our literature.

Sincerely,

Zeviz

PS As for the name of our party, it certanly is a deliberate misspelling of EVIL, hidden as "love spelled backwards" to fool the guilable public.

[ Tuesday, July 05, 2005 19:05: Message edited by: Zeviz ]

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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00
Harry Potter in General
Zeviz
Nuke and Pave
Member # 24
 written Tuesday, July 5 2005 14:12 Profile Homepage #62
quote:
Originally written by Stugri-La:

quote:
Originally written by Zeviz:

And many other fairy tales also have plenty of darkness, including some bad endings. (The only examples I can think of are Russian, but you can probably come up with enough things from your cultures.)
You know, when I was young my parents bought me a collection of Russian fairytales translated into English. And many of them were quite grim and dark, often dealing heavily with such concepts as jealousy, lust, and greed. These passions would lead characters to commit murders and other acts that were explicitly described. Certainly not the sort of thing a child ought to read, but my parents must not have been aware of the mature content.
Nice. :) Wich fairy tales did you read?

Are Russian books particularly popular in India? (You are second Indian person who told me that he read Russian books as a child.)

[ Tuesday, July 05, 2005 14:13: Message edited by: Zeviz ]

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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00
Care in the Community in Richard White Games
Zeviz
Nuke and Pave
Member # 24
 written Tuesday, July 5 2005 13:59 Profile Homepage #37
Dear Mr. Icshi,

The officials of EVOL party would like to express our admiration for your successfull business practicies. You might have heard about our campaign for wold do... I mean our campaign to elect Zeviz a moderator of General forum. We would like to hire your company to distribute our campiagn literature. We believe that your unique marketing abilities would breath new life into our campaign and bring us closer to world do... I mean universal proserity, security and equality. In return for your help, you would be granted the status of official authorized publisher of EVOL party, which would mean that after we consolidate our power, you will be the only publisher left in the world.

We look forward to hearing from you,

Zeviz, and the rest of EVOL executive committe

[ Tuesday, July 05, 2005 14:01: Message edited by: Zeviz ]

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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00
Harry Potter in General
Zeviz
Nuke and Pave
Member # 24
 written Tuesday, July 5 2005 11:02 Profile Homepage #57
About the book's genre, I think it's simply a modernization of fairy tales. Instead of farmers, kings and evil wizards, you have modern middle class families, ministers of magic and, well... evil wizards.

As for the darkness of the books, fairy tales used to be pretty dark too. Stories collected by brothers Grim are quite grim. And many other fairy tales also have plenty of darkness, including some bad endings. (The only examples I can think of are Russian, but you can probably come up with enough things from your cultures.)

[ Tuesday, July 05, 2005 11:03: Message edited by: Zeviz ]

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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00
Wands: what am I doing wrong? in Geneforge Series
Zeviz
Nuke and Pave
Member # 24
 written Tuesday, July 5 2005 09:57 Profile Homepage #3
Which recipe are you trying to make?

I just checked the FAQ linked at the top of forum, and I don't see anything that requires both Wiry Moss and Artilla's Eye.

PS Some books you'll find in the game contain pieces of different recipes. Perhaps this is the case with the book you found?

[ Tuesday, July 05, 2005 09:59: Message edited by: Zeviz ]

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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00
essence help in Geneforge Series
Zeviz
Nuke and Pave
Member # 24
 written Tuesday, July 5 2005 08:18 Profile Homepage #22
The same proverb exists even in Russian. ("Don't argue about tastes.")

As for Geneforge 1 vs. Geneforge 3, the problem in Geneforge 3 is that you've already seen all of this before. In Geneforge 1, there is a whole new world with a big mystery. By the time it gets to Geneforge 3, you already know everything that is going on and keep waiting for your old friends Awakened, Barzites/Shloai, and Takers to show up and for Geneforge to make an appearance.

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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00
essence help in Geneforge Series
Zeviz
Nuke and Pave
Member # 24
 written Sunday, July 3 2005 20:37 Profile Homepage #6
When you are making creations, it tells you how much essence you are about to use up for this creation.

Alwan and Greta are the only two "creations" that don't use any essense even when you spend their skillpoints.

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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00
Out of Tools. in Geneforge Series
Zeviz
Nuke and Pave
Member # 24
 written Sunday, July 3 2005 20:19 Profile Homepage #6
If you really want to open every single door, you should leave some of them until your Mechanics is higher and then come back to open them.

This is especially true for very hard doors, because they will give you 50 experience whether you are level 15 or 25.

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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00
Shaper Help in Geneforge Series
Zeviz
Nuke and Pave
Member # 24
 written Saturday, July 2 2005 23:35 Profile Homepage #9
Thahds and Thahd Shades are also pretty useful to deal with enemies that get too close. (Or to prevent enemies from getting to your fragile Fyoras and Cryoras.)

My favorite strategy is to get high Mechanics (10+) and Leadership (8-10), enough Blessing Magic to cast your best blessing spell, enough Creation Skill to create your favorite creatures and dump the rest into Intelligence.

PS Don't forget to pick up the two NPCs - Alwan and Greta. The best thing about them is that they don't cost any essence to get or to upgrade, so you'll always have an equivalent of your top creations for free.

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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00
Official Election Primary Voting in General
Zeviz
Nuke and Pave
Member # 24
 written Saturday, July 2 2005 19:39 Profile Homepage #20
quote:
Originally written by Drakefyre:

This post no longer makes sense.

And the electee will not necessarily become a mod. It all depends on the surface tension of the blood.
On behalf of all candidates, I would like to enquire how much blood is going to be used for these experiments. I think most of us would prefer to be still alive when we get an answer about our acceptability.

[ Saturday, July 02, 2005 19:39: Message edited by: Zeviz ]

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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00
Why would you go and do a thing like that? in General
Zeviz
Nuke and Pave
Member # 24
 written Saturday, July 2 2005 19:30 Profile Homepage #8
Originally: I was bored at work and this board was a fun place to waste some time and to procrastinate during school year.
Currently, because there are people here who were glad to see me after 2 years of absence.

As for the type of game, I mainly play games for their story. (I know that books have better stories, but I like the interactivity, ability to "win", etc.) And Spidweb games provide some of the best stories I've seen, combined with good game mechanics.

[ Saturday, July 02, 2005 19:31: Message edited by: Zeviz ]

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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00
Official Election Primary Voting in General
Zeviz
Nuke and Pave
Member # 24
 written Saturday, July 2 2005 15:08 Profile Homepage #8
quote:
Originally written by Drakefyre:

Candidates can shift votes that come their way to other candidates - that's part of what makes the election interesting and won't happen until after these results are collected.
Are you saying I can still run, but then e-mail you after results are posted saying "shift all votes from me to person X"?

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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00
Official Election Primary Voting in General
Zeviz
Nuke and Pave
Member # 24
 written Saturday, July 2 2005 14:58 Profile Homepage #6
quote:
Originally written by Lady Davida:

...
Is Zeviz running or isn't he? I've seen plenty of references to his "joke candidacy", and yet he's still on the list...
EDIT: After Drakey's clarification of the rules, I decided to keep running (since the votes given to me will not be wasted).

So vote for Zeviz and support EVOL, the only party with a specific programm to improve these forums, making them a better place for everybody while maintaining fun and safe environement.

[ Saturday, July 02, 2005 15:19: Message edited by: Zeviz ]

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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00
FAQ/walkthrough is up in Geneforge Series
Zeviz
Nuke and Pave
Member # 24
 written Friday, July 1 2005 22:33 Profile Homepage #10
Tiny correction: Leadership 10 is enough for Acid Valley.

About leadership, maybe you could include a note that in most cases using leadership gives you some experience. In fact, sometimes you'll get more experience from using leadership than from killing the enemy. So the skill partially pays for itself.

A couple additions:
1. With 10 (or 12?) leadership you can talk your way past Greinter's guards in Main Army Base. (So you don't have to go in through the back door.) Killing these guards is also an option and doesn't make the town hostile. In fact, if you are feeling evil, you could use leadership to get them to open the door and then kill them anyway.

2. In Darkstone Core, if you have 10 leadership (or less?), you can temporarily disable the servant mind so it doesn't help Hsssak during battle.

3. In South Dhonal Road you'll meed 3 serviles near entrance to purification plant. Talk to any of them and say goodbye. You should notice some unusual behavior. Talk to any of them again and ask what they do. When he gestures to a forest, you'll see armor hiden under his cloak and realize that they are spies. These are the spies Sestilla (in Fort Wilton) wants you to find.

4. In Mountain Pass, if you kill all roamers before they can call reinforcements and keep going along the road, you'll be able to avoid a fight until you get to guard rooms. It might have been a glitch, but one time I was attacked when I was pulling the lever in the guardroom and another time I wasn't attacked at all and was able to get to Dhonal Keep without a fight.

[ Friday, July 01, 2005 23:00: Message edited by: Zeviz ]

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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00
Cannister inventory (potential spoilers) in Geneforge Series
Zeviz
Nuke and Pave
Member # 24
 written Thursday, June 30 2005 13:49 Profile Homepage #11
I guess that's just a mistake in my notes. Sorry about confusion.

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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00
Can anyone figure out this riddle? in General
Zeviz
Nuke and Pave
Member # 24
 written Thursday, June 30 2005 13:14 Profile Homepage #47
I guess DnD context is a good clue:

1. Earth
2. Air
3. Water
4. Elements (Earth, Air, Water and Fire are 4 types of elemental magic.)

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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00
How good a countermeasure could this have been? in General
Zeviz
Nuke and Pave
Member # 24
 written Thursday, June 30 2005 12:10 Profile Homepage #13
quote:
Originally written by Student of Trinity:

I'm not sure this idea was clear to everyone. It's not just to crowd out the troll topics; it's a way to continue discussions with no risk of intrusions by the troll, by effectively turning UBB into a chatroom. If people just keep on editing the first post in their personal topics, and don't reply or read any replies, then the only things the troll can force you to see are their subject lines on the forum page. The troll topics are identified by starter, so you can avoid them. And since you only read the first posts in any topic, you won't enounter any troll replies, either.

The 'chat' topics can all get deleted once the troll is dealt with; but this would be a way of preventing a troll from denying service by threat of shock image replies in all topics. Of course, just leaving the boards for a while will make the problem go away in due course, but wouldn't it nice to know you could have a countermeasure if you wanted one?
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Why not use AIM instead?
No trolls, instant response, no moderators, etc.

EDIT: You can post to PM you for a chat invitation. That way it's also client-pull, and you can control who gets in.

[ Thursday, June 30, 2005 12:20: Message edited by: Zeviz ]

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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00

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