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The Official Electioneering Topic in General
Nuke and Pave
Member # 24
Profile Homepage #24
quote:
Originally written by Jumpin' Salmon:

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It's a shame that some folks find this so darn important and reality threatening that they save stuff to use later as a weapon or protection. I mean really, who does give a rat's behind what happened in a forum 3 years ago.
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We have here a politician who complete misrepresents his past performance. I've seen real political campaigns destroyed by much smaller things.

Here is the sequence of events:

1. Alec talks in every post about his great moderator experience.

2. I show that his moderator experience included:
a) Abuse of power.
b) Lack of good judgement.
c) Using his position to bully members.

3. Nobody, not even Alec himself denies that all alegeations are true. Instead, Alec says that I have a grudge against him and therefore all of my accusations are irrelevant.

If this happened in a real world, Alec's campagn would be dead. However, in our Spiderweb utopia, the great spinmaster continues his campaign as if nothing happened and the person who corrected his record is accused of "bringing up old grudges".

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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00
The Official Electioneering Topic in General
Nuke and Pave
Member # 24
Profile Homepage #17
quote:
Originally written by George A. Custer & The SE Party:

Zeviz, I no longer expect, solicit, nor welcome from you any vote for me in this or any future election, nor do I choose to dignify your ungentlemanly remarks with any further response.
In other words, you admit that all my accusations are correct.

Thank you very much for not dragging this out with unsuccessful denials and making it any more painful that it had to be. I appreciate that you at least are able to surrender graciously, instead of throwing a tantrum like weaker people would.

[ Wednesday, June 22, 2005 00:11: Message edited by: EVOL Zeviz ]

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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00
The Official Electioneering Topic in General
Nuke and Pave
Member # 24
Profile Homepage #15
I posted these e-mails just to cut off any attempt on Alec's part to say that "I don't remember any of this stuff." As for relevant accusations, here they are:

1. As a moderator, Alec abused his powers by locking topics without good reason and unlocking topics locked by other moderators just to spite them.

2.
quote:
For example, on the same suicide topic, he said: "The way I see it,
suicide is for sissies, ...".

Again: I said something you didn't like, but frankly, I wasn't doing anything wrong. It was what they call a joke, and you could certainly argue perhaps in poor taste, but if anyone is honestly going to commit suicide after reading that - why?
I think that comment speaks for itself. When a moderator (who is basically a representative of Spiderweb Software) makes fun of suicidal people on a thread dealing with the subject that doesn't show his good judgemet or sensitivity, especially when he says that there was nothing wrong with that behavior.

3. "Masquerade" was when TM decided to suspend Code of Conduct and allowed everybody to freely flame and even post some goatse links. Alec turned one of the threads in Misc into a repeat of that experience.

4. Even outside the flaming thread Alec engaged in constant flame wars.

Alec and TM's "moderation" was one of the main reasons Misc degenerated into the mess everybody remembers. When the mods are freely flaming everybody and fighting each other, what can you expect from regular members?

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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00
The Official Electioneering Topic in General
Nuke and Pave
Member # 24
Profile Homepage #12
Alec, I really have to do this, but you are forsing me. :(

I've never seen such blatant lies told with such a straight face. :mad:

I was hoping this "election" would be just a fun game, but this is one manipulation you aren't getting away with.

Here is the list of highlights of Alec's short career as a moderator. I'll let you be the judge of whether that's the kind of career he should proudly talk about in every post.

The following e-mail was sent to spidweb@spidweb.com on 01/21/2002:
quote:

Received: from [64.171.7.16] by web20905.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 23:16:17 PST
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 23:16:17 -0800 (PST)
From: "Zeviz" <zeviz1@yahoo.com> View Contact Details
To: spidweb@spiderwebsoftware.com
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Hello, Ms. Krizsan.
I am sorry to be bothering you with this now, but my
complaints posted on mod board had no effect, so I
have to go directly to you. The Miscellaneous board
has been getting very chaotic recently:

1. Alec Kyras and Terror's Martyr have been fighting
since Alec became a mod. When one of them locks a
topic, another one unlocks it back. Scorpius is also
participating in some of this locking game. They
sometimes lock completely innocent threads such as
"Rate your Day", while keeping open much more
offensive or off-topic threads.

2. When locking threads, Alec uses weird pictures that
are completely irrelevant. Sometimes this could be
funny, but sometimes it is extremely offensive. For
example, a topic about suicides was locked with this
picture:
"http://desperance.net/mboeh/img/mrthates.gif".

3. TM and Alec have turned Scorpius' latest funny
thread into repeat of the Masquerade. Then TM deleted
the tread and Alec reposted it with continuation. The
current name is "KEEP Continued".

4. Many of Alec's comments are either silly or
offensive. This was ok for a regular user, but a
moderator should have more maturity. For example, on
the same suicide topic, he said: "The way I see it,
suicide is for sissies, ...".

5. TM has pruned Misc just for fun, when somebody made
a post about Misc having over a hundred threads. This
erased some good threads that weren't active that day.

6. All moderators of Misc are intent on pushing their
political views on everybody. They encourage bashing
Frahhamn, even after he was driven away from this
board by Alec in November. Also, TM sometimes includes
stuff like "Jesus is dead" in completely unrelated
posts on non-political threads.

Once again, I am sorry to be bothering you with this
now, but things got especially bad in the last few
days.
Zeviz

The following reply was recieved from Jeff on 01/24/2002:
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I have posted a message on the moderator board about some of the issues
you
raise. Some of the things, like discussion locking and suicide "jokes",
I
agree with you. Some things, like flaming, I sort of agree. Some
things,
like forcing moderators to only say things nobody could ever disagree
with,
I don't.

You make many valid points, and I am trying to improve the situation.

- Jeff Vogel
Spiderweb Software, Inc.
http://www.spiderwebsoftware.com


PS And if Alec still tries to deny it, ask Shrodinger, Saunders, Stareye, or any other neutral moderator who was around at the time.

[ Tuesday, June 21, 2005 23:11: Message edited by: EVOL Zeviz ]

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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00
Elections? in General
Nuke and Pave
Member # 24
Profile Homepage #176
OOC: I am glad you liked it, but please don't turn this into a discussion of RL politics. "EVOL Zeviz" is a generic dystopian dictator and is not intended to single out any particular RL politician. (However, politicians in general are fair game. :) ) I am putting in as much communist rhetoric as right-wing rhetoric into his posts.

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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00
The Official Electioneering Topic in General
Nuke and Pave
Member # 24
Profile Homepage #2
Reposted from candidates thread:

*Applauds Alec*

This was so masterfully executed that I can only bow to your talent. My would-be dystopian dictator pales in comparison to the real thing. This is how real men get elected supreme rulers:

1. Declare an election out of the blue, when nobody else expects it.

2. Set the rules to encourage maximum amount of chaos and squabbling:
Self-nomination
+ no prerequisites for running or voting
+ challenging everybody to run with an opening asking "do you dare to run?"
= complete chaos

3. Leave and let everybody squabble and plot while the place deteriorates into chaos.

4. Show up several days later with a great speach that makes everybody else look like a bunch of immature kids.

This is how they do it in books and movies, but this is the first time I've actually seen something like this pulled off in real life with such a perfect execution.

My hat is off to you. I will stop my masquerade, because I'll never be able to compete with the true master.

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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00
Elections: The Candidacy Thread in General
Nuke and Pave
Member # 24
Profile Homepage #74
*Applauds Alec*

This was so masterfully executed that I can only bow to your talent. My would-be dystopian dictator pales in comparison to the real thing. This is how real men get elected supreme rulers:

1. Declare an election out of the blue, when nobody else expects it.

2. Set the rules to encourage maximum amount of chaos and squabbling:
Self-nomination
+ no prerequisites for running or voting
+ challenging everybody to run with an opening asking "do you dare to run?"
= complete chaos

3. Leave and let everybody squabble and plot while the place deteriorates into chaos.

4. Show up several days later with a great speach that makes everybody else look like a bunch of immature kids.

This is how they do it in books and movies, but this is the first time I've actually seen something like this pulled off in real life with such a perfect execution.

My hat is off to you. I will stop my masquerade, because I'll never be able to compete with the true master.

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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00
Avernum V. Exile in General
Nuke and Pave
Member # 24
Profile Homepage #3
Avernum has better skill system and is more polished. Exile had better graphics. (I prefer old-style graphics to a poor attempt at 3d.) Overall, I think Avernum is slightly better, but Jeff supposedly still receives plenty of registration requests for Exile.

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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00
Elections? in General
Nuke and Pave
Member # 24
Profile Homepage #160
OOC: What was the name of the book (or was it a short story?) about a society in which they started removing offensive words from dictionary until there was nothing left?
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IC: I think you misunderstood our suggestion. We will not impose censorship on dictionary writers. That would definitely be an offense against the constitutional principles of free speech. What we will do, is create a free and friendly environment, in which every member would feel welcomed. The good citizens who respect each other have no need for offensive language, so offensive words would never be used.

If a person visciously attacks others by using language as a weapon, our duty is to protect the victims from such an attack. I hope you'll agree that prevention is better than punishment, thus it is best to prevent verbal attacks from happening in the first place, rather than using the current method of waiting for an attack to happen and then banning the attacker.

[ Tuesday, June 21, 2005 18:43: Message edited by: EVOL Zeviz ]

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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00
Shaper wearing an iron breastplate in Geneforge Series
Nuke and Pave
Member # 24
Profile Homepage #4
The question wasn't about AP penalties for extra weight. The question was about penalties listed on some armor.

And I just double-checked in Geneforge 3. In that game, the penalties are listed as 5%, 10%, etc, so they are obviously penalties to chances of hitting your target. I guess they might apply to magic as well. You can easily check, because every time you miss, it tells you your chances of hitting.

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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00
Shaper wearing an iron breastplate in Geneforge
Nuke and Pave
Member # 24
Profile Homepage #4
The question wasn't about AP penalties for extra weight. The question was about penalties listed on some armor.

And I just double-checked in Geneforge 3. In that game, the penalties are listed as 5%, 10%, etc, so they are obviously penalties to chances of hitting your target. I guess they might apply to magic as well. You can easily check, because every time you miss, it tells you your chances of hitting.

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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00
Elections? in General
Nuke and Pave
Member # 24
Profile Homepage #158
I think Aran is referring to EVOL plan to make these boards a safe and family-friendly environment by removing all offensive words. To be more precise: "We will abolish the practice of locking topics, which is one of the greatest offences against our god-given right of free speech. Instead, we will introduce newly modified auto-censor, which will prevent members from posting anything that could be deemed offensive by any other member."

Thus, if I am elected moderator, all dirty words would be completely gone from these boards and can be safely removed from all dictionaries.

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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00
It is that time of the month again in General
Nuke and Pave
Member # 24
Profile Homepage #122
There is absolutely nothing oppressive about the system that we are promoting. In fact, that system would be the purest form of society based on the principles of freedom, democracy and equality. It would remove all forms of intimidation and oppression. There would be no bullying, no flaming, no abuse of power. Everybody would live together in perfect harmony.

The harmony would be so perfect that even banning and topic locking would become unnecessary and could be safely abolished. Here are some examples from our party platform:

We will completely abolish the outdated and morally bankrupt practice of banning and replace it with the more humane punishment of sending a hit man to break offender's fingers.

We will abolish the practice of locking topics, which is one of the greatest offences against our god-given right of free speech. Instead, we will introduce newly modified auto-censor, which will prevent members from posting anything that could be deemed offensive by any other member.

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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00
And the students belt... in Geneforge Series
Nuke and Pave
Member # 24
Profile Homepage #2
My guess is that it gives same benefit as +1 Strength or +1 Melee Weapons skill for damage calculations. I am not sure what that benefit translates into as far as actual numeric damage is conserned. That probably depends on your level, your target's armor, etc.

EDIT: Looks like The1Kobra posted while I was typing.

[ Tuesday, June 21, 2005 18:29: Message edited by: EVOL Zeviz ]

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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00
And the students belt... in Geneforge
Nuke and Pave
Member # 24
Profile Homepage #2
My guess is that it gives same benefit as +1 Strength or +1 Melee Weapons skill for damage calculations. I am not sure what that benefit translates into as far as actual numeric damage is conserned. That probably depends on your level, your target's armor, etc.

EDIT: Looks like The1Kobra posted while I was typing.

[ Tuesday, June 21, 2005 18:29: Message edited by: EVOL Zeviz ]

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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00
It is that time of the month again in General
Nuke and Pave
Member # 24
Profile Homepage #118
There will be no dominant force in our perfect society. Everybody will have all the democratic rights and freedoms sacredly enshrined in our constitution. Every member will be equal, with no discrimination based on age, position, connections, or number of tentacles. Anybody who attempts to infringe upon the rights of another member will be sent to a "treatment program" described in one of my other posts.

[ Tuesday, June 21, 2005 15:43: Message edited by: EVOL Zeviz ]

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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00
Elections: The Candidacy Thread in General
Nuke and Pave
Member # 24
Profile Homepage #61
I am glad to see that some of you are beginning to see the justice of our cause. Do not be fooled by false promises of the authorities, or other candidates. EVOL is the only party willing to do what it takes to keep us safe from terrorists and free from oppression of the corporate marionettes that control our government.

The vile substance called scribbane is one of the main causes of our problems. Special interests are getting our moderators addicted and then using scribbane as a leverage over them, advancing the hidden agenda of their shadow government. We suggest combating the root of the problem, by sending all scribbane users into forced “treatment programs”. After completion of these programs, these former addicts will emerge as exemplary members of society and loyal EVOL followers. This procedure can later be applied to all other criminal elements, helping protect our freedom and democracy from all external and internal threats.

So join EVOL – the only party with working answers.

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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00
It is that time of the month again in General
Nuke and Pave
Member # 24
Profile Homepage #116
quote:
Originally written by My Multiplexities:

...
Watch yer words, sonny!

—Alorael, who believes Arancaytar should be banned for accusing moderators in general (and in General, ha!) of being corrupt and evil. WIthout the military might to back that up, you're just asking for trouble.

This is exactly the kind of rutheless opression of our democratic freedoms against which EVOL party is fighting. This sort of blatant disregard for our civil rights can not go unpunished! Here is how EVOL is planning to stop these abuses of power from continuing in the future:

We will protect the members from excesses of non-EVOL moderators by locking them away in a small cellar with a lifetime supply of scribbane.

For more information on our platform, visit EVOL campaign page

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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00
General Moderator Election Poll in General
Nuke and Pave
Member # 24
Profile Homepage #4
It doesn't make sence to ask people not to vote for themselves. If even the candidate himself doesn't believe that he deserves to win, why should anybody else waste their vote on him?

With that said, I expect people to start pulling out of the race as they realize that they have no chance unless they have a pre-arranged support base. (This election begins to sound more and more like a Mafia game. Maybe I should run one on these forums to let people take out their agression in more peaceful ways. :) )

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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00
Shaper wearing an iron breastplate in Geneforge Series
Nuke and Pave
Member # 24
Profile Homepage #1
If I remember correctly, attack skill refers to chance of hitting with melee and missile weapons. So your magic should be unaffected.

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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00
Shaper wearing an iron breastplate in Geneforge
Nuke and Pave
Member # 24
Profile Homepage #1
If I remember correctly, attack skill refers to chance of hitting with melee and missile weapons. So your magic should be unaffected.

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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00
the serial number does not work in Geneforge Series
Nuke and Pave
Member # 24
Profile Homepage #2
If that doesn't work, e-mail spidweb@spiderwebsoftware.com They usually respond to their e-mails pretty quickly (within 24 hours).

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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00
the serial number does not work in Geneforge 2
Nuke and Pave
Member # 24
Profile Homepage #2
If that doesn't work, e-mail spidweb@spiderwebsoftware.com They usually respond to their e-mails pretty quickly (within 24 hours).

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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00
What do you think of Subterra? I KNOW THIS IS OLD, BUT THIS IS NEEDED ALSO... in SubTerra
Nuke and Pave
Member # 24
Profile Homepage #2
SubTerra is very fun if you like this sort of games.

As for lack of activity here, that's because Radiant now has a new site: http://crystalshard.net/
with new forums: http://www.drod.net/forum/viewboard.php?BoardID=17

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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00
wonderin in The Exile Trilogy
Nuke and Pave
Member # 24
Profile Homepage #2
There is no chance of that happening. Jeff refuses to lower prices by a single dollar, so it's highly unlikely that he will ever agree to drop them all the way to zero. Besides, that might cut into his Avernum sales.

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Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword,
For it too has the power to kill.
However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword,
Can also have the power to heal.
Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00

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