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Guardian
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written Tuesday, June 21 2005 22:30
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quote:;) Zeviz, I adore you. Introducing G.W.Bush's policies into everyone's everyday life, now isn't that a great idea? -------------------- Polaris Posts: 1828 | Registered: Saturday, January 11 2003 08:00 |
Nuke and Pave
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written Tuesday, June 21 2005 22:54
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OOC: I am glad you liked it, but please don't turn this into a discussion of RL politics. "EVOL Zeviz" is a generic dystopian dictator and is not intended to single out any particular RL politician. (However, politicians in general are fair game. :) ) I am putting in as much communist rhetoric as right-wing rhetoric into his posts. -------------------- Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword, For it too has the power to kill. However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword, Can also have the power to heal. Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00 |
This Side Towards Enemy
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written Tuesday, June 21 2005 23:41
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Is it really necessary to expend so much effort in being bland? For certain members, unfavourably comparing Bush to dictators is entirely par for the course and not even Ben is still likely to get terribly offended. That's not to say that I particularly want this to disintegrate into Recriminations 101, but doesn't it seem somewhat hypocritical to try to start arguments over feuds everyone assumed had long ago died the death yet to have a pathological phobia of controversy at ever other turn? -------------------- Voice of Reasonable Morality Posts: 961 | Registered: Thursday, June 12 2003 07:00 |
Law Bringer
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written Wednesday, June 22 2005 00:05
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quote:It is a disturbing direction this thread has taken. :eek: I certainly did not intend that... [ Wednesday, June 22, 2005 00:05: Message edited by: Vote Arancaytar ] -------------------- The Encyclopaedia Ermariana <-- Now a Wiki! "Polaris leers down from the black vault, winking hideously like an insane watching eye which strives to convey some strange message, yet recalls nothing save that it once had a message to convey." --- HP Lovecraft. "I single Aran out due to his nasty temperament, and his superior intellect." --- SupaNik Posts: 8752 | Registered: Wednesday, May 14 2003 07:00 |
Triad Mage
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written Wednesday, June 22 2005 05:38
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I prefer Zivez LOVE to EVOL Zeviz. -------------------- "At times discretion should be thrown aside, and with the foolish we should play the fool." - Menander ==== Drakefyre's Demesne - Happy Happy Joy Joy desperance.net - We're Everywhere ==== You can take my Mac when you pry my cold, dead fingers off the mouse! Posts: 9436 | Registered: Wednesday, September 19 2001 07:00 |
Nuke and Pave
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written Wednesday, June 22 2005 05:54
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quote:The events: 1. Alec keeps telling everybody about the great job he did as a moderator 3 years ago. 2. I remind people of what Alec actually did as a moderator. What could be more relevant than solid evidence about candidate's past performance on the job? 3. Nobody disputes that Alec did any of the things that I reported. So why am I now called the guy who "brings up old dirt" and a hypocrite? Why is it ok for Alec to talk about what was going on 3 years ago, but not ok for me to do the same thing? [ Wednesday, June 22, 2005 05:57: Message edited by: Zeviz ] -------------------- Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword, For it too has the power to kill. However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword, Can also have the power to heal. Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00 |
Triad Mage
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written Wednesday, June 22 2005 06:19
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Let's try to keep this to the Electioneering thread, guys. If Alec brings up his past moderatorship to use as a pro for him, then Zeviz has every right to disagree. Alec is the one who went there first. -------------------- "At times discretion should be thrown aside, and with the foolish we should play the fool." - Menander ==== Drakefyre's Demesne - Happy Happy Joy Joy desperance.net - We're Everywhere ==== You can take my Mac when you pry my cold, dead fingers off the mouse! Posts: 9436 | Registered: Wednesday, September 19 2001 07:00 |
Law Bringer
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written Wednesday, June 22 2005 15:11
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As a humorous sidenote, the Onion is running a story on a female dolphin as president. Only very marginally relevant, but still funny. :D -------------------- The Encyclopaedia Ermariana <-- Now a Wiki! "Polaris leers down from the black vault, winking hideously like an insane watching eye which strives to convey some strange message, yet recalls nothing save that it once had a message to convey." --- HP Lovecraft. "I single Aran out due to his nasty temperament, and his superior intellect." --- SupaNik Posts: 8752 | Registered: Wednesday, May 14 2003 07:00 |
Shaper
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written Wednesday, June 22 2005 15:16
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My supporters have some good points :P -------------------- Nena Posts: 2032 | Registered: Wednesday, January 26 2005 08:00 |
Guardian
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written Wednesday, June 22 2005 15:19
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quote:You know, if I was still the green-behind-the-ears teenager I once was, such a tack would be quite likely to succeed in its object. As it is, I'm old enough and just wise enough to be rather invulnerable to such tactics. Dolphin, I believe, is just aware of that as I am. On all sides, it's nothing more than a bit of light-hearted banter. Certainly she has charm, and certainly I am aware of and appreciate it, but I doubt there is any attempted manipulation in the works here. [ Wednesday, June 22, 2005 15:21: Message edited by: Stugri-La ] -------------------- Stughalf "Delusion arises from anger. The mind is bewildered by delusion. Reasoning is destroyed when the mind is bewildered. One falls down when reasoning is destroyed."- The Bhagavad Gita. Posts: 1798 | Registered: Sunday, October 5 2003 07:00 |
Master
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written Wednesday, June 22 2005 15:23
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I concur with Stug. What manipulation? :P -------------------- Polaris - Weather balloons, ninjas, and your big daddy Wise Man. What more could you want? Undead Theories - Don't Ask, Don't Tell Posts: 3323 | Registered: Thursday, April 25 2002 07:00 |
Shaper
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written Wednesday, June 22 2005 15:36
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My candidacy is being debated on the same level as the men. I have no need to try to win favors or votes by questionable means, and hope that my fellow forum members are aware of that. I am honest and forthcoming with my intents as moderator, and am very capable of earning votes for being adequate for the job. How could I expect to be respected by the male members if I employed such tactics? I am saddened that that was misunderstood, but as I explain (and Ben confirmed) that it was not meant to go that way. Such a thing would have come up regardless of the elections, and had absolutely nothing to do with it. Please consider my daily interactions as an accurate judge of character rather than a single incident. Edit: sp [ Wednesday, June 22, 2005 19:49: Message edited by: Dolphin. ] -------------------- Nena Posts: 2032 | Registered: Wednesday, January 26 2005 08:00 |
Master
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written Wednesday, June 22 2005 17:27
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Someone just needs to come up any simply say they will do their best to strictly enforce the CoC while not strictly truncating our posting rights. We want the right to free speech on these forums, but we need to cut down on needless insults and dirty material. We should be kind to all new members, gently ushering them into the systems and giving them a chance to move easily through their n00b stage. Oldbies and more respected members should be given proper recognition of their accomplishments. We really need someone who will be able to promise realistic improvements on the moderational job, if improvements are desired, and someone who actually reads and posts on these forums enough to actually be there when they happen to be needed. Basically, whoever is elected moderator needs to have a good plan to make these boards an easier, more relaxing, and "safer" environment in which to interact with all members of the Spiderweb community. [ Wednesday, June 22, 2005 17:27: Message edited by: ben III ] -------------------- -ben4808 For those who love to spam: CSM Forums RIFQ Posts: 3360 | Registered: Friday, June 25 2004 07:00 |
Shaper
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written Wednesday, June 22 2005 17:31
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Many people (including me) have said (some of) that. Please see this thread. [ Wednesday, June 22, 2005 17:37: Message edited by: Dolphin. ] -------------------- Nena Posts: 2032 | Registered: Wednesday, January 26 2005 08:00 |
Bob's Big Date
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written Wednesday, June 22 2005 17:35
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I'm going to be honest: I'm not going to give you strict enforcement, because unlike you and all of the others calling for it, I was active in a day and age when strict enforcement was the order of the day, and I was at the business end of it. And let me tell you: it's not so fun when people are throwing around banning you for something that sounds like a swear. I've made my promises, and I maintain that I've been the most consistently community- and responsibility-oriented candidate in the election, but that's irrelevant. All this post is here to say is that I'm against strict enforcement, and I'm neither going to endorse it nor endorse any candidate who does. -------------------- The biggest, the baddest, and the fattest. Posts: 2367 | Registered: Friday, June 27 2003 07:00 |
Master
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written Wednesday, June 22 2005 17:49
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Yes, you are right there. Just because someone messed up a little doesn't mean they should immediately be banned, but if someone does something obviously unacceptible, or repeatedly does something on the verge of unacceptible and fails to heed to warnings, canning and/or banning needs to happen instead of continually letting it slip. -------------------- -ben4808 For those who love to spam: CSM Forums RIFQ Posts: 3360 | Registered: Friday, June 25 2004 07:00 |
Guardian
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written Wednesday, June 22 2005 17:50
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quote:Aren't they 'nice and safe' enough by now? All dishes need a bit of spice or they are dull and boring. -------------------- Polaris Posts: 1828 | Registered: Saturday, January 11 2003 08:00 |
Bob's Big Date
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written Wednesday, June 22 2005 17:50
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Well, that sort of thing is the administrator's purview anyway. Moderators can't do stuff like changing titles or bannings; they can only warn off offenses and help direct the community. -------------------- The biggest, the baddest, and the fattest. Posts: 2367 | Registered: Friday, June 27 2003 07:00 |
This Side Towards Enemy
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written Thursday, June 23 2005 04:40
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Yes, it is rather hard to have any real programme, because as a moderator you have responsibility rather than authority. After all, it's not like the boards are goatsed weekly, nor is there an egregious degree of belittlement (and TM will stop doing that when he's dead) so there's only so much safety a moderator can enforce. And when you consider that the current moderatorial team is competent enough, what you are seeing is in the main a popularity contest. I don't want to disparage Alec's attempts to promote leniency but he'd merely change the volume and speed of locking rather than the occurence and with any of the other candidates it would be more or less business as usual. -------------------- Voice of Reasonable Morality Posts: 961 | Registered: Thursday, June 12 2003 07:00 |
Skip to My Lou
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written Thursday, June 23 2005 06:41
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I disagree. I believe TM will find a way to continue, despite death. [ Thursday, June 23, 2005 06:43: Message edited by: Archmage Alex ] -------------------- Take the Personality Test! INTJ 100% 75% 100% 44% Huzzah for the Masterminds! www.Keirsey.com for personality information. The Sloganizer! "Swing your Archmage Alex." Deep down, you wish you were a stick figure. Posts: 1629 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00 |
BANNED
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written Thursday, June 23 2005 07:03
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quote:tldr quote:stfu bundle of stix Zeviz- Both your complaints and your administrative actions in question show that you did not and still do not understand the context. If someone says some c-razy and zany stuff at a comedy club, it doesn't preclude such an individual from acting responsibly in any other setting. Likewise, the antics that went on at Misc. were just that- antics. I don't think any candidate has misread this context, anyway. (It could be argued that I don't read this context properly, but that's flat-out untrue. I read this context perfectly well, I just don't care. :P ) -------------------- 人 た ち を 燃 え る た め に 俺 は か れ ら に 火 を 上 げ る か ら 死 ん だ Posts: 6936 | Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00 |
Law Bringer
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written Thursday, June 23 2005 13:05
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TM makes the CoC cry once again. —Alorael, who wishes he would just sthu. Oh well. Maybe when he's dead? Posts: 14579 | Registered: Saturday, December 1 2001 08:00 |