Can anyone figure out this riddle?
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Shock Trooper
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written Sunday, June 26 2005 09:59
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I think the first one is the earth, and the second one is the sun. -------------------- Important Information about Stuff Posts: 258 | Registered: Wednesday, March 9 2005 08:00 |
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Agent
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written Sunday, June 26 2005 11:37
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quote:I'd go for light here. But Sun might also be it. - Archmagi Micael -------------------- "You dare Trifle with Exile?" - Erika the Archmage -------------------- My Scenarios: Undead Valley : A small Undead problem, what could possibly go wrong? -------------------- Proof of Richard Black's existance: Richard Black - PROOF of his existance (the Infernal one's website). Posts: 1370 | Registered: Thursday, June 10 2004 07:00 |
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Master
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written Sunday, June 26 2005 12:29
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Eh, it's the sun. Light is not really a "thing" or a "he" for that matter. The first one is rather cryptic, if I do say so myself. The Earth works well for the first line anyway. -------------------- -ben4808 For those who love to spam: CSM Forums RIFQ Posts: 3360 | Registered: Friday, June 25 2004 07:00 |
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BANNED
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written Sunday, June 26 2005 16:38
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I'm surprised, ben- I expected "Jesus". -------------------- 人 た ち を 燃 え る た め に 俺 は か れ ら に 火 を 上 げ る か ら 死 ん だ Posts: 6936 | Registered: Tuesday, September 18 2001 07:00 |
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E Equals MC What!!!!
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written Sunday, June 26 2005 17:40
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Lighthouse, maybe? -------------------- Sex is easier than love. Posts: 1861 | Registered: Friday, February 11 2005 08:00 |
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Electric Sheep One
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written Sunday, June 26 2005 18:58
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Yes, 'the sun' was the answer I intended for the second one. I used it as as a sphinx's riddle in another ancient D&D game, and doggone it if a 'sleeper' player, who hardly ever did anything except roll dice when told to, didn't pipe up with the answer immediately. Grrr. Lighthouse is creative, but wouldn't fit the 'doesn't have a fellow', since there are lots of lighthouses. And lighthouses cast shadows by day. I suppose the sun might cast a shadow if the earth were illuminated by a nearby supernova, but that is not an ongoing phenomenon. [ Sunday, June 26, 2005 19:01: Message edited by: Student of Trinity ] -------------------- It is not enough to discover how things seem to seem. We must discover how things really seem. Posts: 3335 | Registered: Thursday, September 4 2003 07:00 |
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Shaper
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written Sunday, June 26 2005 23:15
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"I have two small red knives with me, and I want to stick them in your neck. What are they?" — Exile 3. Simple, yet direct. -------------------- I'll put a Spring in your step. Polaris Posts: 2396 | Registered: Saturday, January 29 2005 08:00 |
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Agent
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written Monday, June 27 2005 03:13
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quote:That's just mean! Waht's the answer to this one then? A young peasant wanted to marry the king's daughter. The king didn't like the idea of his daughter marrying a peasant, but he wanted to appear fair in front of his subjects. The king said that he would put two pieces of paper into a hat, one reading EXILE and the other reading MARRIAGE. Later that day, the peasant overheard the king saying that both pieces of paper would read EXILE, thus ensuring that the peasant would be out of his way for good. The peasant remained undaunted and, as arranged, arrived at the king's court where a large crowd gathered for the big event. The peasant then did something that assured him the hand of the king's daughter. What did he do? :rolleyes: Tell me when you get it! :D - Archmagi Micael -------------------- "You dare Trifle with Exile?" - Erika the Archmage -------------------- My Scenarios: Undead Valley : A small Undead problem, what could possibly go wrong? -------------------- Proof of Richard Black's existance: Richard Black - PROOF of his existance (the Infernal one's website). Posts: 1370 | Registered: Thursday, June 10 2004 07:00 |
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written Monday, June 27 2005 09:53
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Did he ask his fiancee to draw for both of them? *this message sponsored by a ghoul with fangs on Bigail* Posts: 4114 | Registered: Monday, April 25 2005 07:00 |
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Electric Sheep One
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written Monday, June 27 2005 09:55
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Take a paper and destroy it before anyone can read it, then cite the other one as evidence that the one taken must have said 'MARRIAGE'. There are lots of variants of this one around. -------------------- It is not enough to discover how things seem to seem. We must discover how things really seem. Posts: 3335 | Registered: Thursday, September 4 2003 07:00 |
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Agent
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written Monday, June 27 2005 10:02
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quote:Close, but not quite there... - Archmagi Micael -------------------- "You dare Trifle with Exile?" - Erika the Archmage -------------------- My Scenarios: Undead Valley : A small Undead problem, what could possibly go wrong? -------------------- Proof of Richard Black's existance: Richard Black - PROOF of his existance (the Infernal one's website). Posts: 1370 | Registered: Thursday, June 10 2004 07:00 |
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Electric Sheep One
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written Monday, June 27 2005 13:04
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Well, you weren't very clear on what is supposed to be done with the two papers in the hat, or what options the peasant might have. I bet the principle involved is the same, namely that the king won't be able to admit, in front of everybody, that he made two EXILEs, so that if one EXILE is revealed without being applied to the peasant, the king can be forced to declare that the other one was a MARRIAGE. -------------------- It is not enough to discover how things seem to seem. We must discover how things really seem. Posts: 3335 | Registered: Thursday, September 4 2003 07:00 |
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Master
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written Monday, June 27 2005 13:42
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That's how I've heard it solved - just about like SoT said: Take one piece of paper, prompty rip it to shreds and throw it in the fireplace, and then ask to see the other one. If it says EXILE, then obviously he had picked MARRIAGE. How else is it done? -------------------- -ben4808 For those who love to spam: CSM Forums RIFQ Posts: 3360 | Registered: Friday, June 25 2004 07:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Monday, June 27 2005 15:04
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In front of the whole court, get up and accuse the King of lying outright. It won't guarantee you the daughter, and will in fact likely cost you your head, but at least you'll die with a feeling of moral superiority. ... :P -------------------- The Encyclopaedia Ermariana <-- Now a Wiki! "Polaris leers down from the black vault, winking hideously like an insane watching eye which strives to convey some strange message, yet recalls nothing save that it once had a message to convey." --- HP Lovecraft. "I single Aran out due to his nasty temperament, and his superior intellect." --- SupaNik Posts: 8752 | Registered: Wednesday, May 14 2003 07:00 |
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Shaper
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written Monday, June 27 2005 15:44
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The man could just find another wife to be. However, if he wants that princess, I think that SoT's answer would be a very accurate one. -------------------- I'll put a Spring in your step. Polaris Posts: 2396 | Registered: Saturday, January 29 2005 08:00 |
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Shock Trooper
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written Thursday, June 30 2005 00:54
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Oh come on this is easy!!!!!! He asks the king to pick one first then he takes one. He asks the king to read out his... therefore the pesant 'must' have the marriage paper as the king has the exile paper :D :P BTW the original question in this post reminds me strongly of the movie Labrynth. Anyone else remember that? -------------------- If there is no light at the end of the tunnel, stride down there and turn the damm thing on yourself! people often tell me i've lost my mind, but i tell them i have to have one to lose it! lions and tigers and bears, oh my! Posts: 289 | Registered: Monday, January 28 2002 08:00 |
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Electric Sheep One
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written Thursday, June 30 2005 03:11
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Mmm, solving it the very first time probably wasn't so easy, but recognizing a familiar form was indeed so. You'll note that your answer is a special case of mine, with an assumption that the king will have to obey the peasant's requests about drawing. People were starting to make progress on my first riddle above, but had only gotten as far as the first line. Any further thoughts? -------------------- It is not enough to discover how things seem to seem. We must discover how things really seem. Posts: 3335 | Registered: Thursday, September 4 2003 07:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Thursday, June 30 2005 04:06
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quote:The King is going to read his paper, burn it, and claim it read marriage. It's off to Exile you go. ;) And as for the Ghoul on Bigail one, it went: I have to knives, they're long and red I want to stick them in your head. Which, with the rhyming, sounds a lot better. [ Thursday, June 30, 2005 04:08: Message edited by: Vote Arancaytar ] -------------------- The Encyclopaedia Ermariana <-- Now a Wiki! "Polaris leers down from the black vault, winking hideously like an insane watching eye which strives to convey some strange message, yet recalls nothing save that it once had a message to convey." --- HP Lovecraft. "I single Aran out due to his nasty temperament, and his superior intellect." --- SupaNik Posts: 8752 | Registered: Wednesday, May 14 2003 07:00 |
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Nuke and Pave
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written Thursday, June 30 2005 10:43
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quote:Line 1: ground? Line 2: thunder Line 3: a lake? (or hail?) The common theme here seems to be a thunderstorm. (possibly with hail) Am I close? -------------------- Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword, For it too has the power to kill. However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword, Can also have the power to heal. Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00 |
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Agent
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written Thursday, June 30 2005 11:06
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quote:Yeah... SoT's was also correct, I suppose... - Archmagi Micael -------------------- "You dare Trifle with Exile?" - Erika the Archmage -------------------- My Scenarios: Undead Valley : A small Undead problem, what could possibly go wrong? -------------------- Proof of Richard Black's existance: Richard Black - PROOF of his existance (the Infernal one's website). Posts: 1370 | Registered: Thursday, June 10 2004 07:00 |
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Guardian
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written Thursday, June 30 2005 12:24
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quote:I believe the answer is fangs. Well, if people are posting riddles: I am the worst thing that can happen. I cause thousands of deaths whenever I appear. Contrary to what you might think, not many will try to stop me without helping me. Some people try to help me come. Just this century, I have devastated the Earth at least four times! What am I? [ Thursday, June 30, 2005 12:31: Message edited by: Zephyr Tempest ] -------------------- *Blue screen error* NONEXISTANT WINDOWS ERROR Windows detects no current errors, so Windows has decided to screw around with the files until one occurs. If you never rise against your oppressor, then you've already lost. -Zephyr Tempest, your personal entertainer Posts: 1779 | Registered: Monday, December 9 2002 08:00 |
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Electric Sheep One
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written Thursday, June 30 2005 12:38
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Yeah, you're sort of on track, Zeviz; but actually Multiple Monikers and Ben were a bit closer, for just the first line. I think all the lines should seem fair in retrospect, except possibly the last one, because as I warned, it's a bit vague about just how you're supposed to determine the overall answer. But with this additional warning, once you got the first three lines the fourth should become clear. So sez me. It is notoriously easy to compose riddles which seem doable when you make them up, but are simply impossible to anyone else. As I remember this one, my D&D players needed a fair amount of coaxing, so maybe it isn't as fair as I hoped. [ Thursday, June 30, 2005 12:41: Message edited by: Student of Trinity ] -------------------- It is not enough to discover how things seem to seem. We must discover how things really seem. Posts: 3335 | Registered: Thursday, September 4 2003 07:00 |
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Nuke and Pave
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written Thursday, June 30 2005 13:14
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I guess DnD context is a good clue: 1. Earth 2. Air 3. Water 4. Elements (Earth, Air, Water and Fire are 4 types of elemental magic.) -------------------- Be careful with a word, as you would with a sword, For it too has the power to kill. However well placed word, unlike a well placed sword, Can also have the power to heal. Posts: 2649 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00 |
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Electric Sheep One
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written Thursday, June 30 2005 13:59
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That's definitely along the right lines; in fact, it is probably better than the answer I had in mind. Good job. I had in mind 'fire', as the fourth that would complete the set. It isn't obvious that the last line is telling you to identify the missing fourth; but there are lots of old-fashioned riddles which are elliptical in this sort of way, so I figured I was within the bounds of riddletic license. -------------------- It is not enough to discover how things seem to seem. We must discover how things really seem. Posts: 3335 | Registered: Thursday, September 4 2003 07:00 |
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I worked out the first three lines, but the last line threw me because I thought it was more complex than it was. I expected the answer to be a four-letter word that related to all three of the above lines, and that became some kind of implement for conveying information when you took away one letter. I became so enamoured of the idea that the phrase "if four were three" was intended to imply a syncopation that I kept working along those lines, and didn't get particularly far. [ Thursday, June 30, 2005 14:26: Message edited by: Thuryl ] -------------------- My BoE Page Bandwagons are fun! Roots Hunted! Posts: 9973 | Registered: Saturday, March 30 2002 08:00 |
