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Looks like someone has watched Matrix a bit too much. Or are machine revolutions just everyday life in Tokyo?

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Mangez le bifteck.

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The Matrix is a vomitrocious parody of every piece of literature that has been carefully crafed this century. "Oh, I get the Matrix! If you don't like it, CLEARLY you didn't get it... See, when Neo did his Jackie-Chan Kun-Fu, it actually represented Jesus on the cross, and..."
Don't get me started. I hate what the Matrix has done.

Edited to remove TM's gratuitous work-around of the censor. Bad TM!

[ Wednesday, June 02, 2004 02:15: Message edited by: Saunders ]

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Therefore I never go the movies but read the books.
I didn't see Matrix and assume that it has to do with intelligent/human machines. If the machines then conspire, riot and try a revolution, the term Maschinenrevolution makes sense. But nevertheless it's written with 3 "n"s.

....(.(( :) ...

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Isn't Maschine feminine?

I'm not, BTW, using the plural form.

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Gratuitous swears, TM.

Der Umsturz kann nich dich schützen.

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You may not be using the plural, but you should. Even if it were just one machine revolting, we'd call this a 'Maschinenrevolte'. Sorry, maybe not very logical, but that's how it is. But there are other possibilities like for instance 'Roboteraufstand', 'Robo-Revolte', 'Stahl und Eisen Revoluzzer', 'Alu-Aufstand', 'Techno-Revolte', etc.

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yes, it's "die Maschine".
It's normally never used in singular form, sounds very abstract like this. We rather would say: "Der Sturm der Maschine", if it's only one. "Der Maschine-Sturm"?.... well, confusing.
We would not use "Maschine" in connection with "Umsturz" because it points to the literally fall, not to the revolution.
But Maschine Umsturz is exotic and cryptic - even for Germans.

edit: ef, bist Du Deutsche?

[ Tuesday, June 01, 2004 14:07: Message edited by: spy.there ]

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Si, sono. :)

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It comes from the practice of, when TM had been younger and more ignorant with respect to German, claiming that various personages could not protect you -- to wit, FDR and Mao, I recall -- that the Machine could protect you, and that you could follow the Machine and live.

Thus it is not referring to a mechanical revolution, but a revolution of die Maschine.

And no, I have absolutely no idea what any of that's supposed to mean. Mass hysteria.

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The concept really isn't designed to "make sense" in any language, really.

So yeah, singular it is.

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I think linguistic absurdism is something very difficult to explain to someone who does not speak your language natively. I mean, I see what TM is getting at with Machine Revolution. It isn't a revolution of machines, or of machines, it is a revolution of The Machine, where The Machine is what ever.

Think Dance Dance Revolution. It's not a revolution of dances.

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Yeah, but translating it as "machine upheaval" still doesn't quite work. :P

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I like that you make me look at my language with an outsider's eyes. Makes me aware of things I wouldn't have noticed myself. A 'Maschinenrevolte' is a 'Maschinenrevolte', regardless of singulars or plurals. Worse, it refers to a process within the machine/s and/or a process the machine/s started elsewhere. So much for precision.

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New one.

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And another.

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SLUUUUUUUUUUURP

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*random spam*

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The Great Mister

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New moniker. TGM should forget that entire "inhaling" thing.

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I decided not to, after having tried that for a week a couple of years ago. TEH CRANKY OLD MAN.

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The Great Mister

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New one.

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I defeated the Nazis.

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Good Alec! Now let me get you a nice juicy bone for working sooo hard!

Yes sarcasm intended. In bucket-loads.

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You suck at sarcasm, as a sidenote.

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You all suck at the Internet.

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