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Originally by Lord Safey:

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and you and everyone else have refused to to make a conceret list of whats overpowered and whats not or listen to any of my conerns. Until then a point blank refusal is all you should expect.
I listed several of them in my above post, just off the top of my head. Fine, here they are again.

-endlessly obedient followers
You can order your demons to do anything you want and they will do it efficiently, quickly, tirelessly, and without complaint, even if it kills them. Overpowered.

-the ability to gain new warriors within a few weeks
Everyone else has a limited amount of followers (except for Nalyd, and I've pointed out before that he's borderline overpowered). You can always get more, so you can be reckless with the ones you have and build up more easily, as long as you keep killing. And all your followers are fighters, so they have no problems killing. Overpowered.

-the ability to blight large amounts of land and kill hundreds of people with their blood
Demon blood is potent and practically incurable. You have an endless amount of it. No one should have weapons this strong. Overpowered.

-can kill a god with ease
I shouldn't even have to explain this one. Deities are your equals. Any god or goddess you kill should be a difficult, resource-draining fight. Overpowered.

-can destroy 15 villages in a single post
You consistently pull stunts like that, and soon there's nothing left of Kalandha. It was far too quick and easy to be reasonable. Overpowered.

That's Geltor and his army alone. No matter how weak you think Makroangkeen is, he'll just make you even more overpowered.

Dikiyoba.

Edit: Added quote.

[ Tuesday, May 15, 2007 22:13: Message edited by: Dikiyoba ]
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I don't like threats either, but you point-blank refuse to admit that Geltor and Makroangkeen are overpowered. Until you do that, I don't have any other options.

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Safey, do you see anyone else with endlessly obedient followers? Who has the ability to gain new warriors within a few weeks? Who has the ability to blight large amounts of land and kill hundreds of people with their blood? Who can kill a god with ease? Who can destroy 15 villages in a single post? I don't think so. You have far more power than almost every other player. That's not opinion, that's fact.

Adding Makroangkeen to your army is unthinkable. We objected to Yumi, for crying out loud, why would we be okay with an ancient uber-demon? Keep him trapped in hell and unable to help out, kill him, or severely weaken him, or Dikiyoba will do so for you.

[ Tuesday, May 15, 2007 21:44: Message edited by: Dikiyoba ]
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Originally by Lord Safey:

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the prepostion "he" here is not refering to Geltor its refering to M
Okay, then, let's try this again.

Fact: Geltor saw fit to return to hell to free M. instead of directing the next phase of the war.
Fact: The other gods decided that M. needed to be imprisoned to prevent problems while Geltor roams free.
Conclusion: M. is more powerful than Geltor.

Fact: Geltor is overpowered, able to destroy entire villages with minimal effort.
Fact: M. is more powerful than Geltor.
Conclusion: M. is overpowered as well.

So it's pretty darn obvious from your posts that M. is exactly as overpowered as we think he is.

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Originally by Lord Safey:

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I don't beleive he is as powerful as you make him out to be. Any overpowering here is becuase of your own preset opinions of how power he should be.
All we have to go on is what you give us in the ICs. If we're consistently telling you Geltor is overpowered, it's because we're constantly seeing Geltor overpowered. And we'll continue to complain until you change your ICs so he's not so overpowered.

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Since he is the only one who is going to fight Geltor he is the only one who has the right to complain about me overpowering Geltor and thus far no complaint has been lodge from him.
You release M., and everyone will have to fight you. We are preparing for that, and we are already complaining about it. Besides, Ephesos has had to fight you already and he's complaining.

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Almost everyone else has been off doing their own little projects with no concern with the big picture.
We don't want a freakin' god-killing abomination any time soon. Why is that so hard to understand?

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I had a secondary charact Drigy with an alternate sub plot but someone did something too him without consulting me and ruined that.
Did you talk to Nalyd and try to fix the problem? Can you work with it somehow? Between you and Lenar and Nalyd, I'm sure you can come up with something.

Please don't make it come down to take it or leaf it time. Dikiyoba doesn't want to see that.
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Originally by Lord Safey:

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2 Geltor is way more powerful then you are willing to admit
This has been a problem since you joined. Geltor is too powerful, and we're trying to get you to tune him down. The ability to single-handedly release a demon so powerful it will take all the other deities' combined efforts to subdue him without even needing to recuperate afterwards is a very bad thing, no matter how many powers or followers you have. And there are far more ways to have a confrontation besides a fight to the death. Make them argue and have Geltor agree to do a favor for the Gatekeeper later in order to pass, or something.

Dikiyoba.

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As Fourty stepped into the Haunted Forest, he could sense Vizoth praying. But he couldn't tell what it was about. His prayers were directed at Harath--one final, desperate plea for guidance and understanding, one that would go unanswered. Fourty knew better than to interfere.

The Haunted Forest would have been a pleasant place if not for the ghosts. The trees had brilliant gold and orange leaves, except for the dark green of scattered conifers. The ghosts, though, made it quite unpleasant. They were trying to keep their presence to a minimium, but Fourty could still sense their feelings. Exhaustion, hatred, hope, fear, desperation, emotions so faint and muddled he couldn't name them. It was extremely tiring and distracting to put up with.

Fourty shook his head to clear it and followed the large wolf deep into the forest. Many more wolves followed him on either side. Harath must have had several large packs living in the forest.

After a while, Fourty spoke hesitantly. "So, who are you?"

The large wolf stopped and turned around. My name is not important. I... I forget it. But I am the leader. Yes, I was the leader of the first rebellion, and so I am the leader here. Hurry, we are almost there.

The wolf stopped before an obelisk covered in writing. Fourty knew a decent amount about foreign and dead languages because of his work with Burrard and instantly recognized that this alphabet was ancient. It was at least five or six hundred years old, probably more. But the true meaning of the runes wouldn't hit him until later.

"So, this obelisk is what keeps you trapped here?" Fourty asked.

The wolf nodded. Yes.

"And if I destroyed it, you would all be free?"

Yes.

"Could you make it to the afterlife on your own once you were free?"

We do not know for sure. But we think we could, at least eventually.

"Okay, here's what I'm proposing. Wait, I'll be back in a moment." Fourty vanished.

A thick fog and faint muttering swirled around the obelisk. The wolf growled.

Silence. If he says he'll be back, he'll be...

"Sorry about that. I had to return to my office to pick up a notepad and quill. Luckily it hadn't been cleaned out yet." Fourty pulled out a sheet of parchment and began writing while he talked. "So, what I'm proposing is that you provide sanctuary for the Forsaken and any other refugees who come here. Protect them from the followers of Harath, wild animals, and any other threat you can. In return, I will seek out a deity to help release you, since I can't do it myself. Once you are freed, you are to go to the afterlife as soon as possible. No attacking any of Harath's believers. A few of you, say ten or so of the most dedicated and powerful, will be free to go track down Harath to make sure he is not beginning the cycle anew. Does that sound fair?"

The wolf closed its eyes. Fourty waited for several minutes, knowing that the ghosts were discussing things over. Finally, the wolf opened its eyes again. Yes. We agree. Eleven have volunteered to find Harath. The rest have chosen to find rest.

"Good." Fourty signed his name on the parchment. "This contract contains exactly what we just agreed to and is binding." He set it on the ground before the wolf.

The wolf spent several minutes reading over it and then placed a paw in a puddle of mud and pressed it to the paper. The agreement was finalized.

Fourty took the contract and stuck it to the obelisk. "No mortal can take this down and no weather can damage it. Wait at the edge of the forest for the Forsaken. Thank you for your help."

The wolf nodded, but Fourty had already teleported out of the forest.

"Are you okay?" Fourty asked Vizoth. Vizoth nodded. "Good. Are you ready to visit the Forsaken camp?" Vizoth nodded again. "Have you gone mute in my absence?" Vizoth shook his head. "Good to know that," Fourty muttered distractedly while preparing for the teleportation.

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Dikiyoba.
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Nice, Rakshasi. I'm glad you found a way to pull that off.

I'd like to try and get a handle on how long all the important deities or other ancient beings have been around. So, could people list about how old their character and any immortal they introduced or given information about is (even if you've already stated it pretty clearly already)? In particular, I'd like to find out who's left from the original gods and goddesses. Lone Flame, you can skip this if you'd like, since your characters aren't from this world.

Burrard- original pantheon (?)
Digirid- at least 350 years
Fourty- 350 years
Hararth- original pantheon
U'uluua- nothing definite

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Aww...

Let's hear about your fights in the fens, at least.

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I can't see colonization of space as a solution to our environmental problems. Admittedly, I don't know a whole lot about space colonization and technology, but I just can't see it advancing fast enough to relieve overconsumption and overpopulation on Earth, let alone solve it.

That said, I don't have any real objection to it. It can provide new ideas, new technology, and better ways to do things, and I would much rather fund a space program to Mars than a war.

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You probably haven't picked up the emblem yet. Go back to where the soldiers are and look for a pole-like object. That's the emblem. Look at it to take it.

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Hmm. After reading this, I think I'll experiment with the stunning blade some more. I've never had a chance to use it for very long before switching over to the steel broadsword.

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Originally by demonslay3r:

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Yeah, because Earth will never be depleted of resources/space to live. Humans could stay here forever!
Earth will run out of space and resources long before we have the technology to survive independently on Mars.

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"Back off!" Fourty yelled, "I need to think!"

Whatever or whoever they were withdrew from Fourty's mind. He crawled over to Vizoth. Still alive, just unconscious.

Fourty realized several wolves were watching Vizoth suspiciously from the forest. "He's with me! He's with me!" Fourty reached out and touched Vizoth. Instantly, his robes changed from the black robes that marked him as a high priest of Harath to drab, plain-looking green ones. The wolves slunk back into the forest.

Vizoth groaned and opened his eyes.

Fourty managed a wry smile. "I came to free you as quickly as I could."

Vizoth sat up. "I'm not a demigod now, am I?"

Fourty helped him to his feet and chuckled half-heartedly. "No. Although you might wish you were soon." He glanced at the forest nervously.

"Fourty, is... is that the Haunted Forest?"

Fourty nodded.

"No! But... but why? No one who goes in there ever comes out!"

"I was invited. They offered the Forsaken sanctuary."

"Th... they? Who's they?"

"I don't know."

We are prisoners. The largest wolf Fourty had ever seen strode out of the shadows of the forest.

Vizoth took one look at it and collapsed by Fourty's feet. "Oh... oh god."

Fourty looked at him awkwardly for a moment, unsure of what to do, and then attempted to smile at the wolf. "Please direct all statements to me and not my high priest. Now, who are you and what do you want?"

We are the rebels, the traitors, the heretics. Many of us come from the first rebellion fifty, no sixty... seventy? Ah, well, many, many years ago. Many more came from the more recent rebellion. The rest are from individual traitors and heretics over the years. Harath decided that death was only the first step, since we did not believe we had erred. So we would be trapped in this forest until we did.

"So you're ghosts? Harath trapped you here after you died?"

Yes.

"Has Harath ever freed anyone?"

No. There are many who just want to be freed. Harath came down to free them recently. Yes, very recently. But there are many more who are angry. They want vengeance. They...

A new voice, shrill and angry, interrupted. We want justice!

The regular voice returned. They want to hunt Harath down. They want to fight him. And Harath didn't realize how numerous they were until it was too late. He used to keep us weak, half-asleep, but then he lost control. I... I can barely control them. Harath had wolves in the forest, but we possessed them. We are trapped in the forest, but we can send the wolves out and act through them. We harassed Harath constantly. He got scared. Eventually, he fled. Since then, we've been waiting for someone who could help us. And now you're here. Will you help us?

"But if Harath can't control all of you, how can I?" Fourty asked.

I... I don't know. Will you at least try?

Fourty held up a hand. "Wait one moment. I will enter the forest when I have my answer."

Fourty helped Vizoth to his feet again. "Are you okay?"

"Yes. I... yes." He turned away. "I... I need to be alone."

Fourty nodded. "I understand. I will be back shortly." He stepped into the forest.

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Originally by GoldenKing:

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Really though, why do you need a secondary attack? The ranged attack is so much better then the melee for magic and fire creations, glaahk excluded.
Because shades are immune to a cryoa's breath, wingbolts and other creations can run out of energy for ranged attacks, drakons and drayks resist fire so a physical attack may be a better option, etc.

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Originally by DrPraetorious:

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It'd be nice if creations (as well as other allies) had a secondary attack button so that they too could switch attacks. This has been a gripe of mine about fire creations since GF1, that it can be a real pain to get them to bite people.
That's a good idea. I've wanted that option several times myself.

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Thank you. Dikiyoba has had to link to it twice already, so this should make things a little bit easier in the future.
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You don't need both the 125 and the 75. It will only work if you put in one. If I understand everything correctly,

125 will make you very pro-Shaper, and you will get all the benefits and quests for that.

100 will make you neutral, neither pro-Shaper nor pro-Rebel.

75 will make you very pro-Rebel, and you will get all the benefits and quests from that.

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Well, we're making progress.

I'd like to apologize. I've had two bad days in a row, and that's effected how I've reponded to you. I don't apologize for what I've said, just how I've said it.

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Not sure exactly what you mean by that, but I'm sure it was quite negative.
Insinuating that people don't care and that the old days were better (your Inn of Blades example is fine) had nothing to do with the discussion. Whatever you were actually saying, that's how I percieved it, and I percieved it as flamebait rather than anything helpful to the argument. We don't need any of that. (Besides, the fact that we're having this debate at all instead of having a dead or out-of-control RP means that people do care, and we are aiming for a high standard.)

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RPing should have some fighting. They shouldn't revolve solely around it, but they should have fighting.
Oh, I agree that RPs should have some fighting. I hope to have a bit of a fight soon myself. But it has to be a reasonable amount. Right now, though, the demons are (and your master plan was) threatening to overshadow all other aspects of the RP. That's not a reasonable balance. And I agree that this RP should have a certain amount of humor. But the humor that fits this RP isn't a ridiculously overpowered bunker. It's wending your way through an inane bureaucracy, snide remarks about missing fingers, and even endless rambling. The RP needs more of that, and less psychotic stereotypes.

While I'm on the subject, I would like to define a few things. When I say "overpowered" I mean "too easy". If your character is overcoming major plot-related obstacles in a post or two, he or she is overpowered, regardless of the actual amount of power that character has. (Nalyd, I think you border on overpowered on occasion, so please just be careful.) When I say "realistic", I mean that it's somewhat feasible that someone would act that way in a similar situation. No one goes on a homicidal ramage after eating a carrot in real life, so don't make someone in your RP do that, or anything even remotely resembling that admittedly awful example.

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It's a simple shift-D. No editing involved.

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Well, any progress is good progress, I guess, and there's been progress from the first post, so it's okay. Keep working on future chapters, constant revisions are no fun to read over.

Dikiyoba.
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Okay, then. As long as they aren't my typos. I was too lazy to double and triple check them all. Stage 4 sent, GoldenKing.

And Dikiyoba thanks Arancaytar for the tips about state 5.
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Originally by Lone Flame:

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James is trying to save the world cause no one else wants to. What's so hard to understand about that?! "What?! Someone's actually trying to battle the forces of evil before they become so big a threat we almost don't stand a chance in hell against them?! Well, we can't have that."
This RP is not about battling the forces of evil. It's about working together to tell as coherent as a story as we can.

Besides, you've had your master plan (yes, I saw that you just now dropped it) since the beginning and kept insisting on it even after we objected, so your argument that James is doing what needs to be done is worthless.

As for the demons, we've been objecting to their overpowerment since they've shown up and people have reacted to them as best they can if the demons have shown up in the area. The characters who haven't reacted to the demons either don't know about them or have far too many other things to worry about.

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Unfortunately, I made the mistake of thinking that all, rather than just some, of you cared about something that doesn't directly involve your character. That's what I get for holding everyone to high standards from the old(er) days of RPing from back in the day(you know, from back when people actually knew who I was)
Don't invoke this sort of crap ever again.

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Originally by Faldnag:

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Why I mention this is because I need to find a way to switch characters around for bashing doors.
I think that the strongest character always attempts to bash down the doors and so will always take damage. I've never found bashing to be effective, personally. A lot of the storerooms in Fort Avernum probably can't be opened for a while, anyway. Make a note of the doors you can't open so you can come back later when you're more experienced and move on.

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