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What tool do you use to assist? in Blades of Avernum Editor
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While I can hardly call myself an advanced scenario designer... I use Word to keep track of SDFs. I also use Word to edit scripts (but the default TextEdit to read them), and I use Photoshop and ResEdit to work with custom graphics.

Just for kicks, my SDF flag notes are in this format:

0 0 1 party has eaten the pie 2 party has eaten two pies 3 party has eaten three pies
0 1 1 party has entered Big Room
0 2 1 party has seen Big Monster 2 party has killed Big Monster
0 3 250 party has seen message in front of creepy altar

[ Thursday, April 01, 2004 04:58: Message edited by: Kelandon ]

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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What tool do you use to assist? in Blades of Avernum
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While I can hardly call myself an advanced scenario designer... I use Word to keep track of SDFs. I also use Word to edit scripts (but the default TextEdit to read them), and I use Photoshop and ResEdit to work with custom graphics.

Just for kicks, my SDF flag notes are in this format:

0 0 1 party has eaten the pie 2 party has eaten two pies 3 party has eaten three pies
0 1 1 party has entered Big Room
0 2 1 party has seen Big Monster 2 party has killed Big Monster
0 3 250 party has seen message in front of creepy altar

[ Thursday, April 01, 2004 04:58: Message edited by: Kelandon ]

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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Empress Prazac's Reign in Blades of Avernum
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Okay, let me repeat myself AGAIN.

The reason that I somewhat (but not entirely) discount Erika's text in A3 is that some of the stuf in that region contradicts things that are already pretty well established elsewhere in the Avernum universe (ie that the darn thing is called Avernum, NOT Exile, and that Micah has been the leader for well over fifty years, not just twenty). I'm saying he left it over from Exile because he was SLOPPY, not because he still agrees with it (and the reason I say that is that he already changed some of this in earlier Avernums). This argument doesn't entirely convince me, but it does make me wonder just enough that I'd like to see something else in the games that corroborates what she says before I believe anything.

I'm being contrary because I want to be sure beyond a shadow of a doubt. You could convince me at any point by providing additional evidence and not just your say-so. So could anyone else, too... but it seems like we're the only ones paying attention by now.

Grahk may not have been human (I don't remember if we know anything about him), but Prazac pretty certainly was, and the date given for her birth doesn't work with the dates displayed in the games. Hence, even among humans, there are competing calendar systems.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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Scenarios in Blades of Avernum
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The only problem is that your party might not be powerful enough to handle ASR. It's recommended that your party be at least of an average level of 9 to start ASR.

Of course, a little Character Editor tinkering can give you the needed boost if you like. Just give your characters enough experience to level up.

By the way, in order to go to the next scenario, either go back to Fort Talrus and exit out the south, or use the character editor to remove your party from the scenario.

[ Wednesday, March 31, 2004 19:21: Message edited by: Kelandon ]

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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BoA Script Editor 1.0a2 in Blades of Avernum Editor
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I really like this idea. I haven't played with it at all; I have little in the way of custom floors I want to deal with right now, but once you add a few more features, this will be a great program.

Obviously it will not replace writing scripts directly, but it will make it easier to do basic things and serve as a good intro for new designers.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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BoA Script Editor 1.0a2 in Blades of Avernum
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I really like this idea. I haven't played with it at all; I have little in the way of custom floors I want to deal with right now, but once you add a few more features, this will be a great program.

Obviously it will not replace writing scripts directly, but it will make it easier to do basic things and serve as a good intro for new designers.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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Slith Graphics Request in Blades of Avernum Editor
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I need sliths. Anything. Slith priests particularly, maybe with necklaces with ankhs, maybe with robes, other clothing, maybe with frill things on their heads like the chiefs, anything. And spectral sliths, slith mages, slith children, slith elderly. Anything that anyone can make that is of a slithy nature, I will be able to use. Even color edits would be appreciated. E-mail them to the account on my profile. Thanks in advance!

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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Slith Graphics Request in Blades of Avernum
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I need sliths. Anything. Slith priests particularly, maybe with necklaces with ankhs, maybe with robes, other clothing, maybe with frill things on their heads like the chiefs, anything. And spectral sliths, slith mages, slith children, slith elderly. Anything that anyone can make that is of a slithy nature, I will be able to use. Even color edits would be appreciated. E-mail them to the account on my profile. Thanks in advance!

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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Empress Prazac's Reign in Blades of Avernum
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To Drakey: okay, let me write out my thought in full, then. As I said in the Slith Homeland thread, I don't believe that Erika's dialogue in A3 was converted over to the Avernum timeline, because she says about Micah, "He's the king now, and has been for over twenty years." If A3 is sixteen years after A1, then by previous quotes from A1, Micah would've been king for more than fifty years by that point.
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Also, this is the part of A3 where the area is called "Northeastern Upper Exile," where everything else is called Upper Avernum. My suspicion is that this area was only hastily converted into Avernum format, and most of this stuff is left over from Exile.
as I said earlier. And I could probably find other things in Erika's dialogue, if I really need to undermine the credibility of that character in that place more. I would like further confirmation from other places in the games before I fully accept it. Although I have to say it would make sense.

To Alorael: Yes, it's probably a stupid debate, but it's fun :P But unless someone else knows something that they haven't mentioned yet, it's clear that by the Avernum games, at least part of the lineage is wrong. There were either two Hawthornes after Stewart or one, but NOT three, as was true of Exile. I'm still waiting for someone to contradict me with evidence, but no one has.

EDIT: About Grahk's Peninsula (to anyone who doesn't know, it says, "Discovered by Grahk yr. 2234"), it is clear that there are several competing calendar systems. From the Xian Tome of A3, specifically the work entitled "The Life of Empress Prazac": "Our blessed Empress and ruler, Prazac the Kind and Just, was born in Y.E. 5420."

This is kind of odd, because one would think that the Empire would standardize this, but apparently they haven't completely.

[ Wednesday, March 31, 2004 15:47: Message edited by: Kelandon ]

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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Empress Prazac's Reign in Blades of Avernum
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Personally, I prefer the Exile dates.
I would too... for BoE. This is BoA we're talking about, and the Avernum world.

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There were definitely two Hawthornes - one who exiled the archmages, and one who started mass exilings.
You can keep saying that we know this 'til the cows come home, and I'll keep asking you: HOW do we know? Where does it say this? I believe you; I'm just uncomfortable not being able to provide any reference in the games.

[ Wednesday, March 31, 2004 05:37: Message edited by: Kelandon ]

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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Calls that we wish existed in Blades of Avernum Editor
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Was there any reason given for the call being turned down? Seems like such a simple thing to implement, code-wise....

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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Was there any reason given for the call being turned down? Seems like such a simple thing to implement, code-wise....

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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Alorael: the sign is in the far northeast corner of town 12, Lecture Halls. Erika's room is the southwest one of the four. Whether this is our Erika from A1-3, I don't know, and I don't know if there's any evidence either way.

EDIT: Also, I can find no evidence that Garzahd was a Regent or anything else like that. I haven't checked through A3, and my check of A2 was limited (I didn't replay the whole game), but when Micah refers to him, he says, "I speak of Garzahd, archmage and leader of the Empire's forces in Avernum." One would think that if Garzahd had a more official title, Micah would've used it, but no one that I can find (Erika, Solberg) does. As far as I can tell, Prazac was very much in charge, but she just delegated the war effort to Garzahd.

In addition, reviewing my notes, I see that Erika says in A1, "It was his [King Hawthorne's] father who sent me down here," and in A3, she says, "We all fought for Emperor Hawthorne's favor. My side lost. I, Patrick, Solberg and others were cast down into the depths." That sounds like Hawthorne's father was also named Hawthorne. It sounds like a Pliny the Elder/Pliny the Younger thing here, that they just refer to Hawthorne's father as Hawthorne also, without making any sort of distinction as to which is which.

Now, I've already said that I don't think that Jeff paid very much attention to Erika's dialogue in A3 and pretty much left it as it was in E3, which leads to some discrepancies due to the changes in history between Exile and Avernum. I'm tempted to throw out this evidence entirely. Still, if anyone can find any other evidence that Hawthorne's father was also named Hawthorne, I'll believe it. Otherwise, I don't know.

[ Tuesday, March 30, 2004 20:03: Message edited by: Kelandon ]

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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I just had a really, really terrible idea.

Does anything anywhere actually say that Emperor Hawthorne is Hawthorne III? And even if so, does anything say that his father was Hawthorne II? Namesakes need not be one's parent... look at the Queen Elizabeths of England or the King Louises of France.

I ask because I've been replayed A1-3 with god parties on and off for a few weeks now and taking notes on any sort of historical facts, and reviewing my notes, I don't see ANYTHING that gives the name of Hawthorne's father. Worse yet, if VoDT really is supposed to take place in 855, then the order to close the School would have been dated around 775. Why is this bad? Because (as I tried to establish in the Slith Homeland thread) the First Expedition was sent around 765 or 770. That means that Emperor STEWART discovered Avernum, NOT Hawthorne I. Moreover, the archmages (Erika et al) were exiled around 775 or 780 by the father of the Hawthorne of A1. That's awfully close to the time of the date of the order to close the School, when we know Stewart was still in power.

This suggests to me that we might be completely off, and Emperor Stewart was Emperor Hawthorne's father.

[ Tuesday, March 30, 2004 19:06: Message edited by: Kelandon ]

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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scenario criticism in Blades of Avernum
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Some pretty darn awesome scenarios came out for BoE that raised the bar, that's true. The whole concept of BoA's CSR is based on BoE's CSR, which means that we're probably thinking of BoE scenarios as we rate. Really, rating on the basis of four scenarios is kind of absurd: we need a little more for comparison, which is why we think about BoE.

But within BoA itself, I will say that Jeff's scenarios are good, but I expect better to be made. As I said about VoDT in the Lyceum, I gave it that low a number (7.3) only because I want to save room up at the top for scenarios that I think are truly outstanding, rather than just good.

By the way, these are my standards, roughly (subject to change at any time without notice, based on playing two BoA scenarios):
10: super awesome; best scenario out there
9: really really really good; I was on the edge of my seat the whole time and enjoyed every word, but some aspect of the scenario (scripting, dialogue, plot, among others), was just good, not superb.
8: quite good; I enjoyed it thoroughly, but it was noticeably lacking in some way
7: good; it was fun, but the scripts were weak, or combat was far too hard/easy, or I ran into some bugs, or the plot was strange, or it was generally uninspiring in some way, but it was still definitely fun
6: on the positive side of mediocre; it was worth playing, but the plot didn't make sense, or there were consistent grammar/spelling errors, or the scripts were truly shoddily done, or it was occasionally buggy, but it was fun at least in a substantial part
5: mediocre; I wouldn't recommend playing it, but I wouldn't advise against it; the plot was nonsensical, or something was just wrong with it; it was fun at times, but not consistently enough
4: on the negative side of mediocre; play it if you like, but I think it wasn't worth it
3: bad; it was just no fun at all at any point
2: very bad; I can imagine things that are worse, but it would take effort to pull off
1: utterly worthless; the thing doesn't work because of bugs, or it has no plot, or it consists of a dungeon with ridiculous monsters and no purpose, or something equally atrocious; I am dumber for having played this scenario

I have comments about VoDT and ASR along with my ratings on CSR, so I won't repeat them here.

EDIT: I just realized that I failed to say the point of that, which is that I think that what Boots has gone on to say in the next message is quite accurate, that ASR has a quite good rating on CSR, and the others aren't bad.

[ Tuesday, March 30, 2004 10:11: Message edited by: Kelandon ]

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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repairing a scenario [VoDT] in Blades of Avernum
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Same question was asked here . I say try to reset the town using the Character Editor first.

[ Tuesday, March 30, 2004 09:40: Message edited by: Kelandon ]

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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Calls that we wish existed in Blades of Avernum Editor
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Not sure what good it would do, but I thought it might be constructive/fun to mention all the calls that we wish that BoA had that it doesn't have. I personally want a force_start_year call to set the year (for historical or futuristic scenarios). It would be the companion of force_start_day, which does exist.

There's also a thread going about item descriptions, something like an it_description call.

Any more thoughts?

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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Not sure what good it would do, but I thought it might be constructive/fun to mention all the calls that we wish that BoA had that it doesn't have. I personally want a force_start_year call to set the year (for historical or futuristic scenarios). It would be the companion of force_start_day, which does exist.

There's also a thread going about item descriptions, something like an it_description call.

Any more thoughts?

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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If I'm not totally out of my mind, the date counter starts at 855 for any scenario that is the first for your selected party, and then increments by one for each scenario that you play. Does that suggest to anyone else that at least Jeff's scenarios are meant to be set in the years: VoDT 855, ASR 856, ZKR 857, and DWtD 858? Or at the very least, that VoDT is supposed to be set in 855 and the others are supposed to be not long (a few years at most) after that?

It would be nice to have a set_year call to mark that a scenario takes place in the far-future or distant past... wait, that deserves to go on the BoA Editor forum.

EDIT: And for the record, the book that BtI is talking about is in Swamp City and says, "The book is a history of the Empire. Like most of the books on the surface, it was only released after being carefully checked by the agents of Emperor Hawthorne. It describes how the Empire came to rule all four continents on the surface.

The book ends just after the fourth, wildest continent, Valorim, is finally conquered by Emperor Hawthorne. The humans there who opposed him either ended up dead or in Avernum. Usually the former."

[ Monday, March 29, 2004 19:37: Message edited by: Kelandon ]

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Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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Girls' shampoo. Preferably if the smell is emanating from a nearby girl's hair. IMAGE(wink0000.gif)

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I have done so much during my youth to control my body, and you just say it does not change my spiritual part, so it was a really a waste of time.
I think the point was that the things that might make one depressed or suicidal don't damage the soul, rather than physical sin not mattering. Controlling your body is a good thing in pretty much any belief system; ef was just presenting a belief system that says (I think) that (EDIT: meh, I realized upon further reflection that I phrased this wrong. I think the point was that there is some part of us that is not damaged by physical things, and therefore we can reach to it for strength in order to be resilient no matter how bad our physical situation is. Not sure how much I believe this specifically, but I can believe the argument that one can always look deep down for strength.)

I don't believe in a traditional religion, either, but I'm not surprised that a thread about suicide turned to religion for answers, because suicide brings up all sorts of issues about an afterlife and sin and damnation and all that. I suspect that most of us live in a society greatly influenced by Christianity (anywhere in Europe, either of the Americas, or Australia), and Christianity said for years that suicide was among the greatest sins a person could commit.

Personally, I think that suicide is a mistake in virtually all cases, euthanasia being one possible exception, but the thought that an all-powerful god would inflict more suffering on a person who had to escape from life by any means possible because it was so painful... well, I find that concept of God distasteful, I suppose. I'd rather believe that if there is an afterlife, it's about learning, rather than about punishment and reward.

[ Monday, March 29, 2004 06:07: Message edited by: Kelandon ]

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How do we know that, Drakey? Where does that date come from?

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Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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I just want you to remember, TM, when you're reading my long, boring, verbose rationalizations of my ratings...

... you asked for it. :P

Is there a rubric for these? I vaguely remember something about a rubric in BoE, but I don't know if it applies anymore.

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Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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what the heck? in Blades of Avernum Editor
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Reading the docs straight through is hard if you don't have any BoE or other programming experience. My suggestion is to read a piece of the docs and then open up the editor and play around with it for a bit, and then read more of the docs, and then play with the editor, and just keep alternating between them. It takes a lot of time, but you won't get quite as frustrated.

Oh, and use the editor to look at VoDT. Jeff has pretty good commentaries on what's going on in the scripts there, so you can sort of see how it all fits together.

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Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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what the heck? in Blades of Avernum
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Reading the docs straight through is hard if you don't have any BoE or other programming experience. My suggestion is to read a piece of the docs and then open up the editor and play around with it for a bit, and then read more of the docs, and then play with the editor, and just keep alternating between them. It takes a lot of time, but you won't get quite as frustrated.

Oh, and use the editor to look at VoDT. Jeff has pretty good commentaries on what's going on in the scripts there, so you can sort of see how it all fits together.

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Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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