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a qustion about history in Blades of Avernum
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A1 explains this pretty well if you read a little between the lines. Micah was a rebel leader on the surface, a well-known one, so when he arrived in Avernum, he started leading the forces of the humans against Grah-Hoth. The archmages (Erika et al) showed up not long after this and helped him defeat Grah-Hoth. With his resounding victory, Micah became king of Avernum.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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Lord Of the Rings Graphics? Anyone? in Blades of Avernum Editor
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I wish you better luck than most LotR designers have. I think one was finished once, and it was terrible, or something like that.

The Louvre probably already has some of the graphics that you want. I seem to recall one called "Balrog," anyway. And with icon shifts (cr_icon_adjust), you can make anything look like almost anything. Really. I made a bright pink slith chief. So I'm sure you could make elves out of something.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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Lord Of the Rings Graphics? Anyone? in Blades of Avernum
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I wish you better luck than most LotR designers have. I think one was finished once, and it was terrible, or something like that.

The Louvre probably already has some of the graphics that you want. I seem to recall one called "Balrog," anyway. And with icon shifts (cr_icon_adjust), you can make anything look like almost anything. Really. I made a bright pink slith chief. So I'm sure you could make elves out of something.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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HELP!!! in Blades of Avernum Editor
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The code looks good... did you go to "Town Details" in the Town menu and set the script file to be the text file that you want it to be?

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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HELP!!! in Blades of Avernum
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The code looks good... did you go to "Town Details" in the Town menu and set the script file to be the text file that you want it to be?

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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ZKR: will Ahsss follow the party? in Blades of Avernum
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Looking over the dialogue script for that town, I can say for certain that he can't join the party.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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Buying Nethergate in Nethergate
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Take out a student loan. :P

By the way, it's Jeff, not John.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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a qustion about history in Blades of Avernum Editor
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given in terms of Avernum's currently accepted version of history
There is none. There is one for Exile, but *glances at the mighty draconic beast that admins these boards* it is not entirely consistent with the Avernum games. Precedent has yet to be set about what we do with these differences between Avernum and Exile.

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Empire eradication of all non-humans (what I will consider to be the "founding" of the Empire) and the discovery of Avernum?
So far as I can tell, the eradication was never quite complete. Even in A Small Rebellion in Blades of Avernum, Administrator Forbes in Willow, in response to the question "Are there any Nephilim left?", says, "Don't worry. Most of the Nephilim in Valorim were killed long ago. Good riddance, I say!" (talk node 11). But he says "most."

Maybe someone else has a better answer as to when Valorim was considered "settled," though. The First Expedition (discovery of Avernum) was roughly fifty years before A1, according to a message at the entrance to the Ancient Crypt.

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The Empire War (last people sent to Avernum) and A3?
I believe the figure is eleven years between A2 and A3.

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Also, would anyone think it safe to assume that after the problems of A3 are cleared up that the Empire would be more lenient (i.e. not instantly kill) non-humans?

A little, sure. But prejudice is still rampant (see above quote). We see a nephil in a town on the surface in ASR. The party in A3 that wanders around on the surface could consist of nephils and sliths, too. So yeah, they've eased up on the instant death, but they're still pretty harsh.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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a qustion about history in Blades of Avernum
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given in terms of Avernum's currently accepted version of history
There is none. There is one for Exile, but *glances at the mighty draconic beast that admins these boards* it is not entirely consistent with the Avernum games. Precedent has yet to be set about what we do with these differences between Avernum and Exile.

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Empire eradication of all non-humans (what I will consider to be the "founding" of the Empire) and the discovery of Avernum?
So far as I can tell, the eradication was never quite complete. Even in A Small Rebellion in Blades of Avernum, Administrator Forbes in Willow, in response to the question "Are there any Nephilim left?", says, "Don't worry. Most of the Nephilim in Valorim were killed long ago. Good riddance, I say!" (talk node 11). But he says "most."

Maybe someone else has a better answer as to when Valorim was considered "settled," though. The First Expedition (discovery of Avernum) was roughly fifty years before A1, according to a message at the entrance to the Ancient Crypt.

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The Empire War (last people sent to Avernum) and A3?
I believe the figure is eleven years between A2 and A3.

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Also, would anyone think it safe to assume that after the problems of A3 are cleared up that the Empire would be more lenient (i.e. not instantly kill) non-humans?

A little, sure. But prejudice is still rampant (see above quote). We see a nephil in a town on the surface in ASR. The party in A3 that wanders around on the surface could consist of nephils and sliths, too. So yeah, they've eased up on the instant death, but they're still pretty harsh.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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It's a game in Blades of Avernum Editor
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But I don't know if we ever get over the "Wow I can paint cool towns and put in cool people who say cool things and put in fun nasty monsters and awesome traps and run cool animations and..."

If we did, then I think designing would stop being as much fun. :)

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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It's a game in Blades of Avernum
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But I don't know if we ever get over the "Wow I can paint cool towns and put in cool people who say cool things and put in fun nasty monsters and awesome traps and run cool animations and..."

If we did, then I think designing would stop being as much fun. :)

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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a qustion about history in Blades of Avernum Editor
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Empress Prazac's Reign

Languages of the World

Slith Homeland

Note how no one wants to talk with me about this for very long. I still say I'm right, though. :P

EDIT: And while I'm at it, the Encyclopaedia Emariana, which is sometimes a bit more frustrating than helpful given how incomplete it is. And how it doesn't cite sources.

[ Wednesday, April 14, 2004 18:07: Message edited by: Kelandon ]

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
a qustion about history in Blades of Avernum
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Empress Prazac's Reign

Languages of the World

Slith Homeland

Note how no one wants to talk with me about this for very long. I still say I'm right, though. :P

EDIT: And while I'm at it, the Encyclopaedia Emariana, which is sometimes a bit more frustrating than helpful given how incomplete it is. And how it doesn't cite sources.

[ Wednesday, April 14, 2004 18:07: Message edited by: Kelandon ]

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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It's a game in Blades of Avernum Editor
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It feels like a game to me too. I got bored halfway through Za-Khazi Run, and I started making my own scenario. I haven't gone back to finish ZKR yet, and it's been at least a couple of weeks.

That might say more about ZKR than the Editor, though. :P

EDIT: In the meantime I played RoR, though, so I haven't given up on playing scenarios entirely.

[ Wednesday, April 14, 2004 17:56: Message edited by: Kelandon ]

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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It's a game in Blades of Avernum
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It feels like a game to me too. I got bored halfway through Za-Khazi Run, and I started making my own scenario. I haven't gone back to finish ZKR yet, and it's been at least a couple of weeks.

That might say more about ZKR than the Editor, though. :P

EDIT: In the meantime I played RoR, though, so I haven't given up on playing scenarios entirely.

[ Wednesday, April 14, 2004 17:56: Message edited by: Kelandon ]

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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Realism in Blades of Avernum
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Highlighting words in the dialogue (like Caldera) is also just like Blades of Avernum,
This is what Nethergate did. I kind of liked it. I certainly liked it much better than in Exile, when in BoE I never knew what to ask. I think I like the Avernum system better than either of these, though. No real reason; I just do.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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My apologies in General
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HorseHappy is the person you responded to when you posted here.

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Did Jeff know about this while creating Exile/Avernum series? in General
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The Bible is *not* copyrighted. It would be pretty hard to track down, say, the descendents of the author of John.

But a number of things that you might not realize are copyrighted are. The happy birthday song ("Happy birthday to you, happy birthday to you, happy birthday dear ___, happy birthday to you"), for example. I read a whole list of them that I now can't track down. It was a warning to novel writers who intended to use them in their books because they assumed the songs were just part of the public domain.

On the actual topic of this thread, I think that the name "nephilim" is kind of cool for the kitties. Does it imply that the nephils were once a mightier, better race than they are now? Do they have some glorious past that we don't know about? Hey, maybe the NEPHILS created all the other races, not the vahnatai! And now they have fallen and the humans smack them around. What injustice! What an inglorious end!

There's a great scenario in there somewhere, I swear.

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More classical music and such... in General
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I will now name all the classical songs that I know and like:

"Hall of the Mountain King," by Grieg (and most of Peer/Peter Gynt for that matter)
"Fur Elise," by Beethoven
"Symphony no. 5," by Beethoven
"O Fortuna" in particular and the rest of the Carmina Burana (little unclear on the origin of this thing)
"Liebestraum," by Liszt
"Ride of the Valkyries," by Wagner
"Greensleeves," apparently by King Henry VIII

I am something of an uncultured slob when it comes to classical music.

I tried to play the piano for about a month and quit. I played the guitar for a year or two when I was about seven but remember none of it.

I am also rather partial to Michael Kamen because of his work with rock bands.

[ Tuesday, April 13, 2004 17:12: Message edited by: Kelandon ]

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Dungeons and Dragons? in General
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You *knew* Gary Gygax? First reaction: wow, that's pretty cool. Second reaction: holy ****, I am a huge nerd for knowing who that is.

Do the D&D geeks out there have a favorite setting? I happen to like Dragonlance, myself. I tried to read the Forgotten Realms books, but I couldn't get into them. Tried to play Baldur's Gate and couldn't get into it. Read I, Strahd of Ravenloft, loved it, and then realized that there basically is nothing else to the Ravenloft setting as far as novels go and became sad.

Yeah, that's my D&D experience for you. Well, I happened to have a positively ancient copy of the Basic rules lying around when I was little and I read them once, but that's about it.

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Just for fun, at this point...
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And is it clear what a craven little joke it is for a movie to represent Jews bullying a Roman administrator with threatened revolt
From the King James Version, Luke 23:13-24,
"Then Pilate, when he had called together the chief priests, the rulers, and the people,
said to them, 'You have brought this Man to me, as one who misleads the people. And indeed, having examined Him in your presence, I have found no fault in this Man concerning those things of which you accuse Him;
no, neither did Herod, for I sent you back to him; and indeed nothing deserving of death has been done by Him.
I will therefore chastise Him and release Him'
(for it was necessary for him to release one to them at the feast).
And they all cried out at once, saying, 'Away with this Man, and release to us Barabbas' --
who had been thrown into prison for a certain rebellion made in the city, and for murder.
Pilate, therefore, wishing to release Jesus, again called out to them.
But they shouted, saying, 'Crucify Him, crucify Him!'
Then he said to them the third time, 'Why, what evil has He done? I have found no reason for death in Him. I will therefore chastise Him and let Him go.'
But they were insistent, demanding with loud voices that He be crucified. And the voices of these men and of the chief priests prevailed.
So Pilate gave sentence that it should be as they requested."

So far as I can tell, this is the historically impossible Jews-manipulating-Pilate perspective. Regardless of whether this really could've happened, it is there in the Bible, which I think is reasonable justification for Gibson including it.

It seems unlikely that Luke's account really is correct, IMO. Crucifixion was a punishment for treason to the Roman Empire, no? It would've been a strange punishment for what Luke claims Jesus was accused of. Still, it's the Bible. If Gibson wanted to portray the story as it appears in the Bible, I can't really fault him for that.

Now, granted, there are four versions of the story in the Bible, but that's a whole different can of worms. John 19:4-16 seem to indicate that the Jews forced Pilate to crucify Jesus, too. Mark 15:6-15 indicates much the same, adding that Pilate released Barabbas and gave Jesus to be executed "wanting to gratify the crowd." Matthew 27:15-26 runs along similar lines, too. Matthew goes so far as to say, "Pilate saw that he could not prevail at all, but rather that a tumult was rising." Yes, indeed, according to Matthew, the crowd did in fact intimidate Pilate into doing what he did.

For me, it's mostly a problem of intertextuality (maybe because I am not a Christian, so the issue of who killed Jesus and why does not hold the same charge for me as it might for others). I look at the Passion in a similar way to, say, the Great Gatsby movie. I complained about it because it wasn't as faithful to the book as I might like. Honestly, now that I'm reading the Bible, I would have to say that any other portrayal of why Jesus was killed wouldn't've been faithful to the book (although perhaps more historically accurate).

Of course, this is just my uneducated, layman's perspective. Please correct me if I'm misinterpreting here.

I have forgotten the scene in which "all that is needed to assemble a Jewish crowd is a little money," but if it played on that stereotype, then I think that is another legitimate gripe with the movie. I also don't quite understand the significance of "the script's decision to have the cross built IN THE TEMPLE," though. Please explain.

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Living in the past? in General
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And this topic is getting out of hand. My original point is that the past is important and should be preserved.
A lesson to be learned and learned well: by starting a topic, any topic, about ANYTHING, on the Spiderweb forums, you are opening a Pandora's box. The better the topic, the more out of hand it usually gets. So no worries IMAGE(smile000.gif) .

EDIT: Also, good lord, MSW. You're making some fairly huge and sweeping generalizations about an entire society. I don't feel that I was ever taught to forget the past by any aspect of mainstream culture. We do have this obsession with the new and the up-and-coming, but we also have this concept of retro. While retro fashions and trends have their own issues, they do at least indicate some tendency to care about the past.

American society is not necessarily as conformist as you make it out to be. It just depends on where you are and with whom you speak. (I'm at UC Berkeley, which I'm sure influences my perspective, but still.) I have to agree that some people in some places are disgustingly ignorant of relevant history, but not everyone.

[ Monday, April 12, 2004 16:17: Message edited by: Kelandon ]

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You just have to filter out the garbage. You can't go and see the hit movie every week. I thought Lost in Translation was quite good (not too often we see movies about platonic love; it was kind of refreshing), and so were the Lord of the Rings movies. Of the less refined variety, I rather liked Eurotrip, but that tells you just how much of an ape I really am.

The classics have as much variety to them as the movies of today. To people who hated Citizen Kane, I say: watch a good Hitchcock film, then. Rear Window could've been made yesterday. It's genuinely timeless, but not in a snooty it's-timeless-because-it's-boring-intellectual-garbage kind of way. Or if not either of those, watch Grease, or Rebel Without a Cause. Or watch Apocalypse Now. Or...

There are many different flavors of movies that were made, say, more than ten or fifteen years ago and therefore are old enough to be "old" movies. Categorizing them all under one heading is probably a bad idea.

EDIT: Sir David, if you like graphics and music over other aspects of games, how on Earth did you end up playing Spiderweb games?

[ Monday, April 12, 2004 12:03: Message edited by: Kelandon ]

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Article - Bob in Blades of Avernum Editor
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In the scenario I'm making right now, I have a variation off of Brett Bixler's idea: Bob has called you to him, and you start just before you're supposed to meet him. You go to where he's supposed to be, and he's not there. A substitute Bob tells you what to do, with the authority of the real Bob behind him. This substitute Bob acts in place of the real Bob for much of the scenario, while the real Bob hangs just out of reach. This is also kind of similar to ASR's series of Boblings acting in the name of the real Bob.

The end result, as in ASR, is that meeting the real Bob is far more dramatic than it would be otherwise. I do this because my Bob is a fairly intense figure.

If you do this, it's important not to let the player down once you've built up a mighty Bob reputation. Once the player finally meets him, he has to be just as dynamic and interesting as his reputation would make him out to be.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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Article - Bob in Blades of Avernum
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In the scenario I'm making right now, I have a variation off of Brett Bixler's idea: Bob has called you to him, and you start just before you're supposed to meet him. You go to where he's supposed to be, and he's not there. A substitute Bob tells you what to do, with the authority of the real Bob behind him. This substitute Bob acts in place of the real Bob for much of the scenario, while the real Bob hangs just out of reach. This is also kind of similar to ASR's series of Boblings acting in the name of the real Bob.

The end result, as in ASR, is that meeting the real Bob is far more dramatic than it would be otherwise. I do this because my Bob is a fairly intense figure.

If you do this, it's important not to let the player down once you've built up a mighty Bob reputation. Once the player finally meets him, he has to be just as dynamic and interesting as his reputation would make him out to be.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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