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Exodus - stuck in Blades of Avernum
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Use the Flight spell to cross the river. Are you not sure how to do that?

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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Interested in spiderweb games, where to start? in General
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As others have basically said, you don't have to, but it might be most enjoyable to.

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Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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The 2008 Elections in General
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quote:
Originally written by The Mystic:

Apparently I mistook this for an opinion poll. Since Salmon doesn't want my opinion, cynical though it may be
FYT.

I do wonder, though, why Greens are cynical about major political parties but not cynical at all about Ralph Nader? I come from San Francisco, and in this area, most competitive local elections are between Democrats and Greens, so I've seriously examined both parties, and quite frankly, I thought Ralph Nader was deeply out of touch when I heard him speak here a few years back. Some other Greens (his current running mate, for instance) are pretty cool, but Nader himself hasn't really been all that great in about thirty years, as far as I can tell.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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Pat Condell is a hero in General
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Romans viewed Christians as disloyal radicals because they didn't worship the state gods. That was a religious conflict.

Romans attempted to coerce the Jews into following the Roman state religion at first and only tolerated them later because they failed.

Roman religion was inclusive, but it was not tolerant. It incorporated gods into the fold, but things that couldn't fit (like Christianity, like Judaism) were persecuted.

Polytheistic native religions of Europe were just as capable of intolerance and hatred as modern religions are.

Political Islam exists in almost every country that has Muslims. But I stand by the statement that Shari'a is not an integral part of law in many modern predominantly Islamic countries. Iran is a separate issue entirely, and a complex one at that. It is the way it is because we made it so. Look up Mohammed Mosaddeq sometime.

Shari'a is medieval, not modern. And even under Shari'a, Islam was much more tolerant than Christianity was. It was much better to be a Jew in Moorish Spain than in Reconquista Spain.

[ Saturday, March 15, 2008 06:47: Message edited by: Kelandon ]

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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quote:
Originally written by Lepus timidus:

Because when I said "...the polytheistic religions full of kickass semi-nude muscular gods which are native to Western people.", I obviously meant only the Roman polytheistic religion, right?
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Other ancient religions were not much different from the Roman one in this respect. Thus, if you want to love ancient European paganism, you have to deal with the fact that the ancient cultures that they were a part of were also in certain ways exceedingly intolerant, sexist, and brutal.
Also: Romans did persecute those not of the faith, as did all ancient cultures with state religions. The Romans famously threw Christians to the lions, for example, but they also had an extremely rocky relationship with the Jews of the time and ended up destroying their Temple. There were a variety of other such incidents.

Shari'a is only the foundation of law in Saudi Arabia and Iran at this point, and to some extent in Afghanistan, Libya, and Sudan. Turkey, Indonesia, Bangladesh, and a host of other predominantly Muslim countries will have nothing to do with Shari'a, because Islam is not inherently political. Attempts to make law out of Islam are not inherent to the religion but are the result of human actors attempting to broaden the religion's reach.

It would be much more accurate to say that the laws of Iran and Saudi Arabia are oppressive than to say that "Islam" is.

[ Friday, March 14, 2008 22:21: Message edited by: Kelandon ]

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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Oh, one thing I forgot. Obviously I won't respond to someone who is not posting in good faith (and his most recent post is so fatuous that it defies rational reply), but LT said something else that might confuse the casual reader. He suggested that the native religions of Europe were superior to Christianity. While there is certainly a soft spot in my heart for the classical Roman state religion, it is worth noting that it contained virtually no moral or ethical precepts at all. In certain ways, it was hardly a religion at all.

Roman morals were, well, morales: they were related to social mores, which were just customs. And these customs endorsed slavery, subjugated women, viewed all non-Romans as inferior, and so on. Isolated groups, such as the Stoics, attempted to reform these morals, but they did not really succeed.

Other ancient religions were not much different from the Roman one in this respect. Thus, if you want to love ancient European paganism, you have to deal with the fact that the ancient cultures that they were a part of were also in certain ways exceedingly intolerant, sexist, and brutal.

[ Friday, March 14, 2008 22:19: Message edited by: Kelandon ]

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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There are two critical points to be made here, not for LT's sake, because I don't believe in his sincerity, but for anyone who is reading and may be confused by the forcefulness of his assertions, though they lack any truth.

The first is about the religion of Islam. Islam is, like any other religion, open to interpretation. I have to think that the core message of Islam is peace, though; the very name is taken from a root that means "surrender" in Arabic, namely, surrender to the will of God. Islam is about the glory of God, not about the glory of the individual. To that end, struggle is necessary, and the word for "struggle" in Arabic is "jihad." But jihad is much debated in modern Islamic circles.

For sure, though Muslims revere Jesus as a prophet, Islam is not a "turn the other cheek" religion; if someone attacks Islam, the commandment for jihad orders that Muslims defend Islam. But this is known as "lesser" jihad, a less important and less fundamental struggle. The greater jihad is the internal one, the one involving the soul, the one for faith and for the will of God, struggling to submit truly and completely to God.

The issue is complicated, and Wikipedia actually has a pretty good set of articles on the subject (start with jihad and work your way out). But it is pretty clear that Islam is not inherently a violent religion, and there are deeply pacifist interpretations of the religion (as well as, of course, some violent and aggressive ones).

The other issue that needs to be cleared up involves the definition of "hate speech." Hate speech is defamatory speech directed a particular group of people as a whole, without regard to individual variations. Saying "Islam is inherently violent and discriminatory" is hate speech because it is directed at all Muslims, as if they are all this way. Saying "Some Muslims are violent and discriminatory" is not hate speech, because it does not encompass the whole group. (Thuryl's comment, "I just don't like you," while it may not be CoC-compliant for other reasons, is not hate speech, because it is an assessment of one person in all his individuality and is not based on shaky generalizations.)

Criticizing Islam is fine on these boards, as long as you recognize that Muslims are incredibly diverse and have very little universally in common. Blanket statements about them are almost certain to be untrue, and then criticism turns into hate speech.

[ Friday, March 14, 2008 20:19: Message edited by: Kelandon ]

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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Studies in General
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quote:
Originally written by Randomizer:

quote:
Originally written by Disappearer:

currently counselor to severely emotionally disturbed children.
But what do you do outside the boards?

Priceless.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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Studies in General
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As probably everybody knows by this point, I'm a double-major in Classics and Astro. Basically done with the Classics, and finishing the Astro this semester.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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I found myself agreeing with Salmon, which doesn't happen every day, so it must mean something. I found his wild generalizations and simplistic assertions mind-numbing, not amusing. Maybe I'm just not ignorant enough to find this guy funny.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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E. Gary Gygax passed away in General
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I actually have an original copy of Keep on the Borderlands by Gygax, together with a copy of the old Expert rules for D&D (back when there was Basic, Expert, and Advanced). I used to read through them when I was four or five, though they were a bit old even then. They must have been among the first things (together with Lone Wolf, also recently mentioned) that got me into fantasy in the first place.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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A! in General
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quote:
Originally written by Andraste:

Wooooo! Sexy!!
Seeing this on the "daily topics" list was enough to make me curious and click on this thread. I should've noticed that it was Andraste who said this and should've put two and two together. :P

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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Vahnatai are shapers? in Geneforge 4: Rebellion
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We know that the vahnatai do some magic that involves making new species. A3 mentions it, for sure, in the context of Rentar and the monster plagues (these were monsters that Rentar created). So the vahnatai do shape, in that sense, and they shaped even before GF ever existed.

But I think it's much more reasonable to say, based on appearances, that the Shapers are habnabits than that they are vahnatai.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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I'm doing some original research for my undergrad thesis, so I get the concept. I'm not arguing that writing a dissertation is an easier task than what you do as an undergrad; I'm arguing that it's in no way as hectic as being an undergrad is, and as far as making life difficult, hectic is much worse than hard tasks.

Put another way, I think it's easier to have one really hard thing to do over the course of several months than ten pretty hard things to do over the course of a week.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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quote:
Originally written by Student of Trinity:

And on it goes. Graduate students laugh sadly at how much easier undergrads have it
Not any that I've ever met. In fact, most of them point out how little they're actually required to do. In Classics, my favorite grad student had nothing to do but write a dissertation for about two years. In Astro, they show up for observation and occasionally have awful problem sets due, but nowhere near as often as undergrads. And yeah, they have to TA on top of that, but that's about it.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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Because you, um, didn't know about Force-Quit?

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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What have you been reading recently? in General
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quote:
Originally written by Drew:

the firesphere from Book 3(?)
Given that it was the Kalte Firesphere, yes, it had to have been from Book 3. :P

[ Monday, February 25, 2008 15:26: Message edited by: Kelandon ]

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Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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Dread curse in Blades of Avernum
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Hmm, Kass won't heal it? Now I have to check up on this. Lava Ocean, yes?

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Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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What have you been reading recently? in General
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quote:
Originally written by Thuryl:

Just... don't think too hard about the racial undertones in some of them. (Undertones? Ha ha. More like overtones.) Joe Dever's probably a BNP voter now. :(
I took it as typical fantasy fare; Tolkien's just as bad or worse, and that's trickled down into lots of other authors as a result.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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quote:
Originally written by Student of Trinity:

Good heavens. I had no idea that colleges were stooping this low. Sending out e-mails to prospective students is probably perfectly reasonable, even good; but can't they manage not to sound exactly like all the other spam? A little dignity, maybe, for a place that's supposed to be offering a higher education?
When I got a pretty high score on the LSAT, I was amazed that even law schools — even top-tier law schools — send basically spam. The mid-level schools at least have the decency to send a fee waiver alongside their spam. The top-tier ones just talk about how great they are.

They're all just slaves to U.S. News and World Report, anyway; they have no dignity. :P

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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