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Originally written by Student of Trinity:

God seems to have an inordinate fondness for partial differential equations. I'd like to know why.

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Originally written by Arancaytar:

About OMS being cut short: Database hickup. No data loss, the topic record was set to a length of 194 for no obvious reason. Fixed now. I'd look into what caused it (I suspect it's happened at least once with another topic), but it's so rare and non-fatal that I'm putting it a bit further down the todo list.

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Originally written by Stillness:

Based on your statement above you are impossible to convince as you require an impossible burden to be met.

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Originally written by Kelandon:

Why on earth would I need to show that?

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Originally written by Stillness:

It’s only discrimination when gender has nothing to do with a matter. Since gender does have something to do with sex and sex is related to marriage it is not wrong to make a distinction on the basis of sex. For the same reasons, you can marry my sister, but I can’t. That’s not discriminatory. Again, you may think it should be allowed and make a case for it, but this doesn’t make it unconstitutional.

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The government can’t interfere, but is it obligated to recognize religious status. I’m not an expert on the Constitution, but if I made a religion that had the rank “Chief of Police” would the government recognize me as the Chief secularly? I think they’d say, “Call yourself whatever you want, but we ain’t buyin’ it.” If my religion is polygamous I can have all the “wives” I want, but if I try to legalize the marriages I get locked up right?

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I don’t think the government’s treatment of marriage makes for inequality or takes away liberty. You can have a union with 2 men and 2 women so that each bisexual will have a way to fully express themselves, have a ceremony, a reception, live in a house together or whatever you want. The government not recognizing you doesn’t stop any of that. Does the Constitution say the government has to recognize every decision that a person makes?

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Does it really? I don’t think so. I think it says the government can’t interfere in the bedroom, not that sodomy=heterosexual vaginal sex. Correct me if I’m wrong. If I am, it would seem you have the law in your favor

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You all will have to explain how you think Lawrence v. Texas relates to this issue, because I’m not seeing the connection. It struck the law criminalizing homosexuality, right? We aren’t talking about action against, but inaction in not recognizing.

I object every time you bring this up, but I’m the one not getting a response. And by “interfere in the bedroom” I mean illegalize private sexual behavior.

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Originally written by Stillness:

Prejudice is not illegal.

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And making distinctions between sexes is not necessarily discrimination.

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What you need to prove is that sex has nothing to do with marriage. The very designation of what you’re pushing for – homosexual marriage – belies any such claim. You all can’t say it should be allowed because some are sexually attracted to their own gender out one side of your mouth and then say it’s not a sexual issue out the other.

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Originally written by Randomizer:

I once researched drug testing and for psychiatric drugs, there was extreme scientist bias. The so called double blind tests failed because the tested drugs have extremely visible physical side effects that make it impossible not to know who got placebos.

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Originally written by Stillness:

The two points are (1) prejudice against homosexual people and (2) denying gay marriage. Homosexuals are entitled by law to equal protection. That does not mean they are entitled to do something that no one is entitled to do, namely, marry someone of the same sex.

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Originally written by Synergy:

Well, if it's not a choice, but still a sin, then God's got a pretty cruel sense of humor.

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Originally written by Synergy:

I am largely not amongst my kind in an environment full of people whose preoccupations are the hard sciences.

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And it sometimes I become very angry in response. When I speak at those times, it ain't pretty, and I get into trouble.

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I am inclined to rail at times against "scientists," because I have found that a person like myself who operates more in the realm of intuition and feeling, is typically despised or discarded by the spirit of science and those who dwell in it.

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Science does look and feel very much like the, yes, stereotypical male mindset in the world to me. I see it as the natural product of the way the male mind seeks to experience, know, manipulate, and control the world in very concrete terms.

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It's wonderful. It's also only part of the grand puzzle and experience of life, and it could be more humble to at least consider the possibility that there is much outside its grasp that is relevant to our existence.

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Around this I at times become upset, because I see it negating many wonderful things and people. It denies God. It reduces Love to neurochemistry and hormones. Science is unromantic.

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For the kinds of things I do like to talk about, and the way I do like to communicate (which is full of wordplay, irony, paradox, teasing, subtlety, and the seemingly contradictory side by side), I don't know how much better I could make much clear in print alone without derailing and negating all the devices I like to employ.

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Anyone with a remote sense of who I am should realize

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I don't personally find women difficult to understand or baffling or mysterious. I think the primary reason men do is because they have largely been isolated in gender roles which serve to disconnect them from parts of being which women are permitted to be and express,

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Originally written by Pompopsych:

don't blame demographics.

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