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Mental training in General
Kelandon
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 written Monday, December 3 2007 15:52 Profile Homepage #46
quote:
Originally written by Archmage Alex:

Also, Kel, I'm very interested in what you are saying about yoga masters. From what I'd heard of it, I thought yoga was just a sort of exercise that involved a lot of bending and stretching. Could you refer me some resources on the matter?
Not easily, because it was just something that was mentioned to me in passing. This may have something to do with it.

And Alec's mention of biofeedback is interesting. It is actually possible to gain some conscious control of certain things relating to the brain, but my understanding is that the science of this is very much in its infancy, and normally it involves hooking a person up to some serious instruments. Doing it without computers would be... um... challenging.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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For all you physics gurus in General
Kelandon
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 written Monday, December 3 2007 08:28 Profile Homepage #34
quote:
Originally written by Student of Trinity:

Yes, there was all that ether stuff, for most of the time. But I don't think it really made all that much difference. Late in the century someone apparently observed that the only real function of the ether was to provide a subject for the verb 'to oscillate', and as far as I see this was a sound insight. People were not much attached to any particular notion of what the ether was like. They made careful observations, and formulated mathematical theories of fields that could reproduce them. Then they felt obliged to construct material models of a space-filling substance whose mechanical stresses and vibrations would in turn reproduce their field theories. But experiments and field equations between them were doing all the actual physics.

Did anyone really believe in the ether? I'm not sure. From an old popular book I once read, I believe everyone acknowledged that it was only an unproven working hypothesis. It was a motivation for some work, and an apparently obligatory afterthought for most. Eventually it became clear that ether models were both extraordinarily difficult to construct and essentially irrelevant. Yet there was no really damning evidence that there did not exist some very peculiar form of ether. So the proposal that there was no ether at all would really have been just as irrelevant to actual physics as any other ether model. Denying the ether would not have been bomb-throwing radicalism, but pipe-smoking punditry.
You know, I'd be inclined to believe this, except that all of my textbooks say something rather different. If I may quote Griffiths at you, in the part in which he describes the term that Maxwell added to Ampere's law:

"[i]n Maxwell's time there was no experimental reason to doubt that Ampere's law was of wider validity [than just in magnetostatics]. The flaw was a purely theoretical one, and Maxwell fixed it by purely theoretical arguments.... (Maxwell himself had other reasons for wanting to add this quantity to Ampere's law. To him the rescue of the continuity equation was a happy dividend rather than a primary motive. But today we recognize this argument as a far more compelling one than Maxwell's, which was based on a now-discredited model of the ether.)"

As far as I can tell, that means that Maxwell's reason for adding the term was primarily his own model of the ether, not experiments or some general view of the way that fields work.

IIRC, the paper that Michelson and Morley published on their experiment that disproved the ether said that they had failed to detect it, but they must have just not had sensitive enough measurements. Even when they did the definitive test that people later cited as disproving the ether, they believed in it enough that they didn't disregard it.

While getting rid of the ether concept didn't actually destroy all of physics up to that point, I think it was a fairly radical notion. Enough people believed in the ether enough that the formulation of physics without it was a significant step.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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Mental training in General
Kelandon
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 written Monday, December 3 2007 08:01 Profile Homepage #36
Such awareness does lead to control. That's why great yoga experts can actual stop their hearts briefly and do other crazy things like that. Your intentions make little difference in the process; if you go into meditation wanting to gain control of your heart rate or if you go into it wanting to gain a "greater understanding" of your heart, you'll get both out of it. They come together.

Wanting control of your internal processes is not inherently unhealthy.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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Meadows of Heaven in General
Kelandon
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 written Sunday, December 2 2007 22:00 Profile Homepage #30
Today, spurred on by the Killers cover of "Shadowplay," I actually tracked down some old Joy Division, and some Bauhaus for good measure (since the two are often mentioned in the same breath), and while I was at it, I listened to the New Order that had already ended up on my computer somehow.

Damn, that is some good stuff. Joy Division in particular was great. It's funny, because it sounds like normal '80s New Wave/alternative, until you realize that it was released in the '70s, and everyone who sounded like that in the '80s was copying them. Suddenly bands that I hated and thought sounded awful, bands that seemed to be part of the New Wave thing but also seemed to be part of their own subculture that didn't make sense to me (and here I am thinking of Men Without Hats, among others), fit into the bigger musical picture as really bad imitations of Joy Division.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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The Abominal Desktop Thread Continued: A New Abomination in General
Kelandon
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 written Sunday, December 2 2007 19:35 Profile Homepage #46
Hey, look, it's FBM! Been a while.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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Mental training in General
Kelandon
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 written Sunday, December 2 2007 17:41 Profile Homepage #31
At one point I thought that this might be a good plot for some sort of sci-fi novel. Then I realized that it lacked basic credibility and wouldn't be believable.

I'm still wavering on whether I think this is a weirdly described version of what yoga experts might do with meditation and such or is just a load of placebo effect. I'm pretty sure that I've been pushed over the edge to the latter.

And virtually any comment phrased as ef's latest was inclines me to doubt that she knows what she's talking about.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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Best Spiderweb serious EVER in General
Kelandon
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 written Sunday, December 2 2007 11:43 Profile Homepage #6
IIRC, Jeff at one point indicated that Mariann and Linda contribute some stuff as well. It's mostly a one-man show, but I think it's not entirely a one-man show.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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NPC Searching for nearest guard in Blades of Avernum Editor
Kelandon
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 written Sunday, December 2 2007 11:32 Profile Homepage #13
quote:
Originally written by Ephesos:

quote:
Originally written by Armed_Defender:

What call could I use in a terrain script instead of move_to_new_town?
To the best of our collective knowledge, there is no workaround for this problem.
You can do all sorts of ugly things like setting flags and moving the party (Exodus does this sometimes, and Bahs did, too), but they're ugly.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
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Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
NPC Searching for nearest guard in Blades of Avernum Editor
Kelandon
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 written Sunday, December 2 2007 10:09 Profile Homepage #9
Why wouldn't you just reverse the order of the subtraction? That's the same as multiplying by -1.

Also, you'll want parentheses like so: my_loc_x() and my_loc_y(). (In addition to the fact that it won't work for the reason named above.)

[ Sunday, December 02, 2007 10:12: Message edited by: Kelandon ]

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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Iffy scripting problems in Blades of Avernum
Kelandon
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 written Saturday, December 1 2007 14:05 Profile Homepage #8
quote:
Originally written by Iffy couldn't pick a name:

I don't know what AIM is.
Iffy, if you don't know what something on these boards is, just Google it.

Uh, and make sure that it's not an image (which this one isn't.)

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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Meadows of Heaven in General
Kelandon
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 written Friday, November 30 2007 16:00 Profile Homepage #14
quote:
Originally written by Excalibur:

I surprised by the responses, to say the least.
What here is surprising?

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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Meadows of Heaven in General
Kelandon
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 written Friday, November 30 2007 14:54 Profile Homepage #12
1. What was the last song you listened to?
Apparently (according to my iTunes) it was "Supermassive Black Hole" by Muse.
2. What was the last song / album you bought?
"Ghost Opera," Kamelot.
3. What is your favorite song?
It was "Astronomy" by Blue Oyster Cult (Metallica's cover was good, but not as good). Then it was "Holiday" by Green Day. Now it's probably some Kamelot song, but I can't seem to choose one. "Moonlight," maybe.
4. What is your favorite record album?
Was "Use Your Illusion I" by Guns N' Roses. Now probably Kamelot's "The Black Halo." Not that I ever listen to albums in their entirety anymore.
5. What song do you think has the best music?
The general sound of "Moonlight" by Kamelot is unlike anything else I've ever heard, and damn, it's cool.
6. What song do you think has the best lyrics? First one that comes to mind is "Jesus of Suburbia" by Green Day.
7. Who is your favorite composer? ...
8. Who is your favorite lyricist? I think Alo has it on this one. No one did amazing, amazing lyrics the way that Tom Lehrer did. And for the very best bad lyrics, it has to be a tie between "Macarthur Park" and "Muskrat Love."
9. Who is your favorite performing artist? The best concert I've been to (out of not many) was Green Day on the American Idiot tour. Individual YouTube clips of Kamelot in concert make me really really want to go to one of their shows, but they haven't been here in a while. But the best live show I've ever seen a video of was Nirvana's Unplugged. (Pink Floyd's live version of The Wall takes a close second.)
10. Is there any song that has ever just hit you like a brick? What was it, and why? Dream Theater's "Pull Me Under," if only for the part that begins, "Watch the sparrow falling...."
11. What is that one song that you just can't stand? [and] 12. What artist do you absolutely hate?
Oh god, so many. Let me confine myself to my own genre (rock/metal). Pretty much anything by Nickelback post-"Leader of Men". Pretty much anything by Staind post-"Mudshuvel." Anything by Creed post-"My Own Prison." These were all bands that were okay when they very first started out and began to suck horribly when they became popular.
13. If a group of SpiderWebbers got together to start a band, who would be in it, and what genre would they perform?
I don't know, but it would be terrible and I would never listen to it. :P

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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Eat It! in General
Kelandon
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 written Wednesday, November 28 2007 22:23 Profile Homepage #16
I used to work at KFC, and I will always have an appreciation for their side-dishes, but I don't like their chicken.

Taco Bell and Subway are quite good.

Does Jamba Juice count as fast food? If so, that wins by far.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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For all you physics gurus in General
Kelandon
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 written Wednesday, November 28 2007 21:57 Profile Homepage #30
Lorentz was going by the ether theory, IIRC. That's what the Lorentz transformations in relativity originally were.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
For all you physics gurus in General
Kelandon
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 written Tuesday, November 27 2007 19:57 Profile Homepage #28
The backwards-ness of the historical development of E&M has been commented on several times during my upper-division E&M class this semester. It definitely has bothered me that the Lorentz force law came after Maxwell's equations. You'd think that Maxwell's equations would've been the final, culminating summary, after just about everything else was known, but no.

It's also kinda odd that E&M already takes into account Galilean invariance (the frame-dependent thing), which no one really cared about until relativity in 1905. It really could've gone the other way: the principles of relativity in the low-speed limit require that E&M be formulated the way that it is. But no, it happened the other way around.

It has bothered me since high school physics that there's no simple Coulomb's Law for magnetism, that the nearest equivalent we have is the Biot-Savart Law, and that magnetism has to be formulated with these stupid dipoles and current loops. But that evidently is not just some historical coincidence but actually the way that nature works, so I can't complain too strenuously.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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Endeavour in General
Kelandon
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 written Tuesday, November 27 2007 15:37 Profile Homepage #23
I was inclined to wonder what the heck Drew did in college that led him to have few demands on his time. Then I recalled that my experience is relatively far from the norm.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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Did Thralni leave? in General
Kelandon
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 written Tuesday, November 27 2007 15:03 Profile Homepage #13
You can see Thuryl's triumphant return here, just under a month after he left.

The only not-awful person I can remember who was banned in March or April of '06 was Exile Master.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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The Abominal Desktop Thread Continued: A New Abomination in General
Kelandon
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 written Monday, November 26 2007 20:45 Profile Homepage #37
quote:
Originally written by Enraged Slith:

Had to do a Wiki search on this one.
Only because you didn't watch Buffy. Or, uh, Eurotrip.

quote:
She's apparently going to do a voice role for an animated "Dragonlance: Dragons of Autumn Twilight" straight-to-video movie. Damn, sucks to see one of my favorite childhood series get turned into some cheap animated film.
Yeah, I assume it's going to suck, and it's completely going to fail to be Dragonlance. I've watched at least one other of her movies that was pretty bad solely because she was in it (The Dive From Clausen's Pier), so I'll probably watch it anyway.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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I'm back in General
Kelandon
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 written Monday, November 26 2007 13:23 Profile Homepage #16
You can imagine the sorts of topics that someone who went by the name of "Mister Fox" would be interested in discussing that would get a person banned.

And that is about all that needs to be said about that.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me
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Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
The Abominal Desktop Thread Continued: A New Abomination in General
Kelandon
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 written Sunday, November 25 2007 23:01 Profile Homepage #22
My desktop alternates among various pictures of Michelle Trachtenberg.

And I'm not ashamed of that.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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G1 canisters in Geneforge Series
Kelandon
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 written Sunday, November 25 2007 22:18 Profile Homepage #2
Apparently X did it.

There's brief discussion of stuff that might be useful in the attempt here.

Mention of it here.

[ Sunday, November 25, 2007 22:29: Message edited by: Kelandon ]

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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I'm back in General
Kelandon
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 written Sunday, November 25 2007 21:57 Profile Homepage #11
This caused me to go back and check the '06 bannings. Ah, the memories. We had a couple of good explosions back in the day. Come to think of it, we haven't had a really good blow-up on SW in a while. Mod elections, anyone?

In other news, I really hope this guy isn't Mister Fox. :P

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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SD Flags: in Blades of Avernum
Kelandon
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 written Friday, November 23 2007 16:19 Profile Homepage #2
It's not complicated at all; it's just a matter of getting it. If you don't get it, it sounds horribly confusing and weird. Once you get it, you'll wonder how you could've ever not understood it in the first place.

The principle is the same in BoE and BoA, although the implementation is slightly different. BoA centers on two calls: set_flag() and get_flag(). set_flag() sets a flag to some value. get_flag() checks that value. BoE used If-Then nodes to accomplish the checking.

You can imagine flags as being a grid of numbers that is 200 rows by 30 columns. Each number starts at 0 and can be set to some other value by a set_flag() call. Then a get_flag() call checks that value and (generally) tells the script what do in response.

Let's take an example. Imagine you have a scenario in which a mayor gives a quest to kill a bandit leader. Once that quest is done, the mayor gives a reward of a magic sword and assigns another quest to kill two ogre mages. When that quest is done, the mayor gives a reward of a magic shield.

To simplify things, let's consider just a 5 row by 3 column set of flags, and let's assign values as follows:

(0,1) = 1 means the party has been rewarded with the magic sword
(0,2) = 1 means the mayor has given the magic shield
(1,0) = 1 means the bandit leader has been killed
(2,0) = x means x ogre mages have been killed

[My flag numbering convention is to use the first coordinate to indicate the town in which the stuff is happening, so this is assuming that town 0 is where the quests are assigned and towns 1 and 2 are where they are carried out.]

Here's how the flags start:

0 0 0
0 0 0
0 0 0
0 0 0
0 0 0

Now the party kills the bandit leader. You use set_flag(1,0,1) to set the flag identified as (1,0) to the value 1 to mark that the bandit leader has been killed. Your flags now look like this (remember that the numbering starts with zero, so the upper-left flag is (0,0), and they count down and right in this example):

0 1 0
0 0 0
0 0 0
0 0 0
0 0 0

When the party returns to town and talks with the mayor, you use get_flag(1,0) to check that the right flag has been set. Since it has, they get the magic sword reward, but they need to get it only once, so you set (0,1) to 1. Now your flags look like this:

0 1 0
1 0 0
0 0 0
0 0 0
0 0 0

If they try to get the sword again, you use get_flag(0,1) to check if they've already gotten it, and you don't give it again.

Then they wander off and kill an ogre mage. You set flag (2,0) to 1 to mark that one mage has been killed.

0 1 1
1 0 0
0 0 0
0 0 0
0 0 0

If they try to return to town now, you use get_flag(2,0) to check if they've killed both. Since it's smaller than 2, you know that they haven't, and you don't give them their reward.

Next, they kill another ogre mage. Now you set flag (2,0) to 2 to mark that they're both dead.

0 1 2
1 0 0
0 0 0
0 0 0
0 0 0

They return to town and get their magic shield. Now you set (0,2) to 1 to mark that they've gotten their reward.

0 1 2
1 0 0
1 0 0
0 0 0
0 0 0

And of course you can use get_flag(0,2) to check if they've gotten the reward just yet.

Once you understand what flags are, I wrote an article that (among other things) explains how "if" conditions in BoA work: Basic Scripting for Complete Beginners. This is how you use flags.

It's more complicated to explain than it is to do. I advise taking a look at someone's else's code (many of the towns in Exodus involve fairly simple implementations of flags, for instance) and then trying it yourself.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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Anyone find Avernum 4 not as good as 1-3? in Avernum 4
Kelandon
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 written Friday, November 23 2007 10:08 Profile Homepage #12
A4 sold very, very well, but this is not terribly informative in itself. After A1-3 and the huge wait time and anticipation, Jeff could've remade KOWP in the GF engine, burned it to a CD, and called it A4, and it would've sold well.

The purpose of the A4 that he actually made was to get the new engine in place and have some good hacking. It accomplished both of those things. The over-arching plot was never the point. But then, the over-arching plot in A3 was kinda stupid, too, and A3 was a great game.

I don't think I'll ever have the urge to replay A4, but I did enjoy it as I played it the first time. So even if it fell off the mark of A1-3 a little, it's still well above most of the garbage out there.

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Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens.
Smoo: Get ready to face the walls!
Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr.

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