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[ Thursday, September 06, 2007 21:11: Message edited by: Kelandon ]

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Originally written by Miramor:

I don't know, there's definitely something cool about midget fish people.


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Originally written by Ming:

Thanks Kelandon, so if the CD is the full version then I'll just reinstall that and just use my saved games from whatever directory?
Yeah.

When you switch folders around, BoA occasionally — very occasionally — thinks that it can't find the scenario that your save game is from, which ruins your save, but I don't think that should be a problem if you're going from the demo to the full version.

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You can definitely start now. I don't remember exactly how it works — I think the CD has no registration stuff associated with it at all, so you just install the full version — but whatever it is, you can play the demo and you won't lose anything.

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Tell Jeff. There's nothing I can do about these errors, since I can't reproduce them.

E-mail spidweb (at) spiderwebsoftware ((dot)) com and tell him exactly how to reproduce the error, sending a save file if at all possible.

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Originally written by Stillness:

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Originally written by Synergy:

I don't believe we've found any giant, dragon, or unicorn skeletons yet, which shouldn't be hard to do considering they should be 6000 years old or less.
We haven’t even found all of the living animals yet, let alone extinct ones. Yet, we do know that nature abounds with strange creatures with amazing abilities.

I think Stillness just said that he believes in dragons and unicorns. I am amused.

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Originally written by Student of Trinity:

Tiny people playing volleyball on ping-pong tables, spiking those little plastic balls over those little nets .... Come on, now, that was hilarious.
It was only hilarious until they climbed off the table and started tying down the nearby sleeping giants with their little ropes and hooks.

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Originally written by SkeleTony:

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What was before the Big Bang? Well, the universe before the Big Bang would be a sphere with negative radius. No such thing exists. Stephen Hawking's line is that asking what was before the Big Bang is like asking what is north of the North Pole, and my rendition of that is that it's like asking what a negative-radius sphere looks like.
EXACTLY! Which pretty well proves that there can be no "before time".

Sure. There was no time before time. That's what people mean when they say that time itself began at the Big Bang. There can't have been time before the Big Bang, because "before the Big Bang" is not a well-defined concept.
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Originally written by SkeleTony:

"Beginning" DOES imply a preceding moment where the event(of said "beginning") had not yet occurred or the phenomenon did not yet exist.
Would you prefer that we say that the Big Bang occurred as far back in time as time goes? How would you like to put it in order to indicate that we're tracing the radius of the circle back to r=0 and there is no farther that we can go?

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You have to make some sort of appeal to a form of Occam's Razor, here, or you're stabbing blindly in the dark.
?! I do not follow you. And as a skeptic I LIVE by Occam's razor BTW.
It is reasonable to conclude, in the absence of any evidence to the contrary, that your aunt is probably not a trans-dimensional vampiric telepath. Upon this we are agreed.

However, we are not concluding this only because we lack evidence in favor; we are concluding this because we have a whole host of evidence that is consistent with her not being such a thing (namely, your experiences with her). On the other hand, concluding that she is a trans-dimensional vampiric telepath would require creating a lengthy and complicated explanation in order to keep consistent with the evidence that we have.

There is nothing to say that the latter complicated explanation is impossible, but you can appeal to Occam's Razor and say that we're better off to accept a simpler explanation.

If we really had no evidence at all, we'd just have to admit that we don't have any idea.

[ Tuesday, August 28, 2007 22:29: Message edited by: Kelandon ]

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There is nothing in the term "beginning" that implies that anything preceded it.

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Originally written by Synergy:

Who is SkeleTony, anyway and what planet is it from?
SkeleTony has been around before, but not recently.

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Energies may be invisible, but they follow principles to do what they do. If there are energies harnessed by a "spiritually-focused" person to create an effect upon the material, is it supernatural, or merely a natural law of energies in operation which we don't understand yet?
Uh... I guess if such a thing were to exist, you'd be right.

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The fact that some energies seem to be able to travel at the speed of light/speed of thought around the world, as in the curious, sometimes psychic link of twins, for instance, does not make it unscientifice or magical. I don't see any ultimate division between the "spiritual" and the scientifiic. There are energetically-based principles of connectedness in the universe which I don't think we grasp yet, and I believe they can appear to supersede time and space in the conventional sense.
Uh, "energetically-based principles of connectedness in the universe"? I'm reminded of the EPR paradox, but that has nothing to do with energy (more with transfer of information).

Energy can be transmitted at the speed of light, sure. After all, light is energy. It can't go any faster than that, though.
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Originally written by SkeleTony:

If the universe had a "birth"(and i agree that this one DID) then this entails a preceding moment in which the universe did not exist, followed by the "bang" and so on...
Hence linear temporal sequence has ALWAYS existed.

Eh, one of the ways of making sense of this is to think that time actually looks more like a radius than like an axis in Cartesian coordinates. If you're on the surface of a balloon and someone is blowing air in, as time passes, the radius of the balloon increases and the surface expands. The radius can be measured in units of time, and in the universe, the radius is time.

If the balloon is sufficiently big, the surface looks 2-D, even though the balloon itself is a 3-D object. The universe is doing something similar, except the universe is big enough that it looks at a given point in time 3-D, even though it is actually 4-D. And just as with the balloon, time is a radius, and the Big Bang happens at r=0.

What was before the Big Bang? Well, the universe before the Big Bang would be a sphere with negative radius. No such thing exists. Stephen Hawking's line is that asking what was before the Big Bang is like asking what is north of the North Pole, and my rendition of that is that it's like asking what a negative-radius sphere looks like.
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Absence of evidence is some of the strongest evidence of absence we can possibly have! The above makes for a cute slogan but it is not logically sound. You also have to keep in mind the difference between ordinary claims and extraordinary claims. Not having positive evidence that my aunt works for NASA is NOT evidence that she does not. That would be true. But not having evidence that my aunt is a vampiric telepath from dimension 'x934' IS evidence that she is not.
Uh, no. You have to make some sort of appeal to a form of Occam's Razor, here, or you're stabbing blindly in the dark.

[ Tuesday, August 28, 2007 20:19: Message edited by: Kelandon ]

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Until we have some kind of handle on dark energy, I think we're pretty much unable to say much of anything about the final fate of the universe. Yes, the expansion is accelerating, but we don't have any idea really at all about what's causing it or why.

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Originally written by Stillness:

My point is valid because there are complicated factors, unknowns, and untestables at this point as concerns our climate. I asked what we should do when opinions differ and the response from TM was 'scientific method instead of prayer' as if we're not talking about a scientific disagreement and as if scientific method is guaranteed to resolve all disputes.
It is, when we actually get conclusive data. If what you're saying is true — and I don't think that it is — the most that you could possibly say is that we don't have enough information yet, not that the scientific method is not useful in answering this question.

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BTW, relativistic measurements are more precise at all velocities. Our limitations before yielded less accuracy.
Yes, but we're talking about correction factors of incredibly small fractions of a percent. If our predictions about climate change are anywhere near as accurate as that, it hardly matters if there are some other minute factors we have yet to take into account that may also add or subtract a thousandth of a degree.

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It's a good thing our resources and abilities are infinite now, otherwise we'd still have inaccurate and completely wrong beliefs.
Quit being asinine. No one is actually saying this.

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If object A is moving at velocity V1 relative to an observer and object B is moving at V2 relative to object A, what is the velocity of object B relative to the observer? Depending on the knowledge of the scientists and the tools at their disposal the answer will be different. We think we know now. They thought they knew back then.
Uh... unless you're moving at relativistic speeds, the answer to that question has been well known for as long as there has been science. If you're trying to point out that Newtonian mechanics breaks down as you extrapolate them out to far, far, far beyond anything that Newton was ever able to test, then okay, but that's not really relevant to anything.

Newtonian mechanics were tested at Newtonian speeds (up to maybe 10^2 or even 10^3 m/s). Extrapolating those out to 10^8 m/s gets a little sketchy, but that's massive, massive extrapolation. We're not talking about "using the scientific method and arriving at different results." It's not like two people used the scientific method and got different results as to what happens at relativistic speeds. People were guessing, not getting results, until finally these guesses became testable, at which point everyone got the same results: relativity works at relativistic speeds.

I'm not saying that scientists are always right or that they never disagree with each other. I'm saying that experimental results, in order to be valid, need to be replicable and can't ever really directly contradict each other unless they're not really comparable or someone made a mistake somewhere.

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The biggest misconception about this that needs to get cleared up right away is that treating everyone equally is not the same as doing the same thing to everyone. I'm in favor of individualized classes wherever possible, designed to teach to the needs of the students in the room and not designed for some faceless generic student.

I know that I personally would have become a problem if I were in regular classes with everyone else. Having at least advanced classes is a bare minimum to keeping a school functional, and accomodating learning differences of all kinds — the disabled, the exceptionally bright, whatever — is incredibly important.

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Originally written by Starman1985:

If your a mod than fine if not bugger off.
That's not the right attitude to have around here, but it seems to be the one that you consistently have. You need to shape up if you want to stick around. Be nicer to people, try not to whine or make irrelevant comments, and shorten your signature.

[ Sunday, August 26, 2007 07:31: Message edited by: Kelandon ]

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Originally written by Synergy:

Ah, the intoxication of being somebody.
Yes. You are absolutely right. Those scientists who research new ways to recover illegible writing on papyrus fragments and on palimpsests are truly changed to core by their awesome power to affect how others look at the world. Their celebrity status is enough to make them act just like Paris Hilton. That's why the tabloids are filled with so many stories of college professors running amok and getting DUIs and getting caught with underage girls. Also they sit in their labs and cackle. A lot.

I shouldn't kid. I mean, I hear that winning a Nobel prize — which does make a scientist a celebrity, at least for a couple of days — changed a professor at Cal whose name is the other half of the tariff named after Willis C. Hawley. Before, this professor was a great researcher who couldn't teach and treated his undergrad researchers like dirt. After, he was a great researcher who couldn't teach and treated his undergrad researchers like dirt and talked about how he was now an "ambassador for science" or something.

EDIT: One difference between science and religions of the past is that science can actually change when things aren't working. The only reason that you, Synergy, know that asbestos is bad for you is that scientists researched the long-term effects of it. Scientists created asbestos, and scientists also saved us from it. Religious institutions have a hard time doing the same thing.

EDIT 2: Your idea that science is like a religion is not by any means a new one. I think Asimov articulated the idea best, though, in Foundation: "For it is the chief characteristic of the religion of science that it works, and that such curses as that of Aporat's [a high priest in the novel] are really deadly."

[ Friday, August 24, 2007 22:57: Message edited by: Kelandon ]

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Originally written by Iffy:

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Please don't invert the colors and call it an edit... you can do so much more interesting things by color shifting via the editor.

Are you talking about the scenario editor?

Look up icon adjustment in the scenario editor documentation.

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Originally written by Thuryl:

Is this really the kind of software that a lot of people want to pirate?
Seriously.

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Originally written by Stillness:

EDIT: TM, do you think it's possible to use scientific method and arrive at different results?
Not if you're doing things properly, no. A scientific experiment's most basic property is that it is repeatable. If it is not, then you're doing bad science.

You may get results that, if extrapolated and expanded upon, lead to differing conclusions, but then good scientists know that they are going beyond the available evidence to reach their conclusions and have a significant degree of uncertainty in their conclusions reaching beyond the data. This is one of the ways that scientists can have different opinions on an issue.

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Originally written by Ephesos:

Well pardon me. It just came across as blatantly ignorant.

If you want to attack someone's rhetoric, it helps to not lower yourself beneath their level.

Eh, methinks you missed the irony.
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That wouldn't be so horrible, but that's not the message. I've seen, heard, and read him and everytime those who disagree with him on humans origins are ignorant, blinded, irrational, etc. His view is unquestionably right. He can't tolerate the fact that some people have looked at the evidence logically and disagree so they are classified as stupid. He is not alone in that sentiment.
If so, fine, but don't generalize to all members of some category on the basis of a few members. That's prejudice.

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Originally written by Synergy:

The scientist seeks to stave off existential dilemma by faith in a type of logic and a type of technique, as if all that has meaning or purpose in the universe is that which is soullessly reduced by and to technique. A world of scientists would be an Orwellian nightmare realized.
Now you're just being ridiculous. Everyone knows (or should, anyway) that science can't answer every question that can be asked. Some questions are beyond the scope of science. The questions that fall within the scope of science, though, can be answered very well by scientific methods.

And what the hell you mean by "an Orwellian nightmare," I am tempted not even to ask, because I'm sure the answer is beyond inane.
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Originally written by Student of Trinity:

This notion that scientists are arrogant fools, far more sure of their conclusions than they should be, seems to be a deeply rooted myth in some quarters. Just where on earth does this notion come from?
I think it comes primarily from those who simply don't like scientific conclusions (like evolution), and then analyze like this: "Well, evolution must be wrong, so the scientists who say that they're almost completely certain about it must be wrong, and that must mean that they are basing their certainty on inadequate evidence. Thus, scientists are arrogant fools who leap to conclusions."
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I think it's a backlash to the attitude exemplified by folks like Dawkins who basically says, "Science has uplifted you. You may keep your spirituality for now, as long as you will accept what I tell you as you would the word of your God."
The logical end of an argument like Dawkins's is not to replace religion with science, but to end belief altogether. Assess ideas on the basis of evidence and only on the basis of evidence. That is, nothing is unquestionable (as the word of God would be).

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