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Displayed name	Kelandon
Member number	4045
Title	Off With Their Heads
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Homepage	http://home.sanbrunocable.com/~tommywatts03/
Registered	Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00

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Rosetta in General
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Tuesday, January 31 2006 07:18 Profile Homepage #20 That sounds bad. Jeff's code is not know for being easy to tweak for compatibility. -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
The nephilim language in The Avernum Trilogy
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Tuesday, January 31 2006 07:15 Profile Homepage #150 My lack of knowledge about Dutch tenses is tripping me up here. I think that what you've just said is acceptable, but it worries me a little bit that I can't cross-reference this to anything. My answer is yes, unless something else weird turns up. -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
The nephilim language in The Avernum Trilogy
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Monday, January 30 2006 20:26 Profile Homepage #148 Alorael: I was debating about how much detail to get into. In a word, yes, mostly. English doesn't have an exact equivalent to an imperfect, but English's past progressive is more equivalent than any other one tense. Yes, the past frequentative ("He threw every day") is also an imperfect, but I wasn't sure how much I wanted to go into the nuts and bolts of the difference between English's tenses and Latin's, given the audience for which I was writing. "He has thrown" is present perfect, though. "He had thrown" is past perfect. If anyone really cares, I can go into all of the tense and aspect issues that arise here and exactly what each thing is called. EDIT: Oh, heck, I'll just do it. My page on the slith verb may be sort of educational as far as what the distinctions are that we're talking about. There's tense, and then there's aspect. Tense conveys when something happens (past, present, future). Aspect conveys something about the manner in which it happens, including: true perfective, which indicates action that takes place over one definite period of time and finishes;iterative/frequentative (not sure on the distinction), which indicates action that happens often;durative, which indicates action that lasts for a long time and may or may not finish;inchoative/inceptive, which indicates action beginningmany, many others (for which I refer you to Wikipedia)* English has these distinctions: basic tense (past, present, future), progressive or not, and perfect or not. * Spanish has these distinctions: basic tense (past, present, future), perfect or not, and (only in the past) perfective or imperfective. Note that PERFECTIVE and PERFECT are TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. * Latin has these distinctions: basic tense (past, present, future), perfect or not (with one exception), and (in the past) perfective or not. Unfortunately, Latin's present perfect and perfective past had collapsed into each other, so that dixi was both "I spoke" and "I have spoken." Those two forms are distinct in English and Spanish. Now, English's progressive more or less corresponds to a durative aspect (which is distinct in, say, certain situations in certain Slavic languages — the difference between i&#x0015B&#x00107 and chodzi&#x00107 in Polish) — a durative aspect focuses on doing the action of the verb, rather than on finishing it. It stresses the process. (Your mom tells you to clean your room and you reply: "I'm doing it!" You may not be done, and you may not ever finish, but you're in the process.) English's simple past (non-progressive, non-perfect) generally indicates one-time action ("I threw the ball"), but it can indicate things done routinely ("I threw the ball every Sunday — because I was the quarterback of the San Francisco 49ers"). This is called the frequentative aspect. The problem when using examples is that the imperfect encompasses the frequentative and durative aspects, but the progressive only encompasses the durative aspect. Since Spanish has an imperfect, but English has a progressive, there's no direct equivalence. Basically: English: simple past = perfective + frequentative; progressive = durative Spanish: preterite = perfective; imperfect = frequentative + durative So the frequentative presents an obvious difference between the way that English and Spanish handle tenses. There are other aspectual problems in translation between English and Spanish, but the frequentative problem is the first one that comes to mind. [ Monday, January 30, 2006 21:30: Message edited by: Kelandon ] -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
The nephilim language in The Avernum Trilogy
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Monday, January 30 2006 19:32 Profile Homepage #145 Um, no. "He threw" is simple past. "He has thrown" is present perfect. Those are both encompassed by the Latin perfectum. Imperfect(um) is "He was throwing." Past perfect (plusquamperfectum) is "He had thrown." -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
The nephilim language in The Avernum Trilogy
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Monday, January 30 2006 08:28 Profile Homepage #143 quote: Originally written by Thralni, The flying Dutchmen: You are probably absolutely right about the "past perfect". What I want is like the latin perfectum. How would one call that in english? Well, that's the question, isn't it? What tense does your unmarked "past" correspond to in Latin? I ask because I think that you may be doing one of two things: 1. Your "past" is like the Latin "perfectum," and your "past perfect" is like the Latin "plusquamperfectum." In this case, your "past" is just a "past" in English, and your "past perfect" is in fact a "past perfect" in English (or a "pluperfect" — they are the same). OR 2. Your "past" is like the Latin "imperfectum" and your "past perfect" is like the Latin "perfectum." In this case, your "past" should be called the "imperfect," and your "past perfect" should be called the "perfect" (without the word "past"). This is the reason why it may be useful to give examples of both of your past tenses. [ Monday, January 30, 2006 08:29: Message edited by: Kelandon ] -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
The nephilim language in The Avernum Trilogy
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Monday, January 30 2006 07:49 Profile Homepage #141 Eh, the verbs page is better now than when I first looked at it. I'd still run it through a spellchecker, though: there are some easy-to-fix typos that distract and make it harder to understand. In the same fashion as before: are you sure that you mean a "past perfective" tense, rather than a "past perfect" tense? Both are possible, but they mean different things. It may be useful to give an example of this form of the past tense. By the way, the vocative case has nothing to do with imperatives. [ Monday, January 30, 2006 07:51: Message edited by: Kelandon ] -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Exodus Progress in Blades of Avernum
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Monday, January 30 2006 07:41 Profile Homepage #41 If anyone's curious, I've basically finished designing the terrains and combat. I'm leaving the last couple of towns for the very end, so that I can make them completely together, but now I have to go back and write a whole bunch of dialogue that I've been putting off. It should be fun, though, so I don't expect to do a lot of procrastinating on this. While I was taking a short break from working on the scenario, I wrote a couple more pages on the slith language. The "Eras and Dialects" page is new, and I've put in explanations on the "Nouns" page. -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
The nephilim language in The Avernum Trilogy
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Monday, January 30 2006 07:00 Profile Homepage #137 I have already posted all of my comments on the other cases, the pronunciation page, and the verbs page. If you want to know what I think about them, re-read this thread. -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Foreign Language topic! in General
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Sunday, January 29 2006 19:29 Profile Homepage #24 Latin has been frequently spoken in many different contexts since more than two thousand years ago (conversationally in the Roman Empire, in church in Middle Ages, among intellectuals in the Renaissance and Enlightment, etc.). I was merely indicating that my Latin right now is pretty poor, poor enough that if I were to try to hold a conversation with someone in Latin, I'd fail pretty pathetically. I need frequent use of a dictionary and of forms tables. [ Sunday, January 29, 2006 19:31: Message edited by: Kelandon ] -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
2 Questions in Avernum 4
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Sunday, January 29 2006 18:26 Profile Homepage #5 Pre-made classes get more skill points than custom ones, sometimes a lot more. It has always been this way with SW's games, at least as far back as I've played. I'm not entirely sure why, either. [ Sunday, January 29, 2006 18:27: Message edited by: Kelandon ] -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Pylons in Avernum 4
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Sunday, January 29 2006 15:11 Profile Homepage #9 It's worth mentioning that you can stand one step outside the pylon's range and still have the pylon be in your missile and spell range. I killed every pylon I came across in this manner, because I'm just that OCD. -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Foreign Language topic! in General
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Sunday, January 29 2006 14:42 Profile Homepage #19 Yo estudié Español, pero yo no lo hablo muy bien. Latinam scribo, sed non dico. &#x01F28&#x003BB&#x003BB&#x003AD&#x003BD&#x003B9&#x003BA&#x003B7 &#x003B3&#x003BB&#x003CC&#x003C3&#x003C3&#x003B1 &#x003B3&#x003C1&#x01F71&#x003C6&#x003C9, &#x01F00&#x003BB&#x003BB&#x01F70 &#x003BF&#x01F50 &#x003BB&#x003AD&#x003B3&#x003C9. Mówi&#x00119 troch&#x00119 po polsku. And I'm taking German right now, but after two weeks, I can't even express an ability or inability to speak in it. So all in all, I have some experience with at least six languages, but I can't speak any other than English well enough to hold a decent conversation. EDIT: I said I didn't speak Spanish, darnit. :P [ Sunday, January 29, 2006 21:36: Message edited by: Kelandon ] -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Helping Jeff advertise in Avernum 4
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Sunday, January 29 2006 14:07 Profile Homepage #85 quote: Originally written by spiders in my brain get them out: —Alorael, who likes games that force some role on you. Omg you mean role-playing games? :P In all seriousness, I agree to some extent with Ash. Making things personal is nice. One of the nice parts of A3 was that your Avernite support base in Fort Emergence had already pegged you as their second choices, since their top squad had already gone out and gotten killed. I almost enjoyed being made fun of. -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
The nephilim language in The Avernum Trilogy
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Sunday, January 29 2006 13:58 Profile Homepage #135 I have never said anything about the use of the genitive in Hurrian or Sumerian. I'm not qualified to do so, and honestly, it's not relevant to this discussion. I've spoken about what the phrase "genitive case" means in general linguistics (at least in linguistics conducted in English) in contrast to what the phrase "possessive case" means. Evidently Dutch does not make a distinction between a "possessive case" and a "genitive case," but I can testify to the fact that English does. Since you're writing your description of your language in English, you should abide by English standards. Now, in order that we may figure out what this case really is, explain what the non-possessive uses are. Your example, I believe, once you started to say that it was not use simply for possession was "his palace of kingship." Is that still accurate? EDIT: Thralni, would it make sense to call a case an "accusative" case if it were used for the subject of the sentence? Of course not. So it makes no more sense to call a case a "genitive" case if it isn't used for both the possessive and the partitive functions of a genitive case. [ Sunday, January 29, 2006 14:10: Message edited by: Kelandon ] -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Cat mouth and head information in General
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Saturday, January 28 2006 07:12 Profile Homepage #2 Well, I came up with this by looking at this. -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
The nephilim language in The Avernum Trilogy
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Saturday, January 28 2006 07:06 Profile Homepage #123 I'm not working on it much. I know everything I need to know about it, so there's not much point in me making pages about it until I'm ready to release a scenario with it. I've been working on the scenario instead. I did take a quick break from the scenario to make a few more pages, but I'm not sure when I'll put them up, because I'm not sure when I'll finish them. My priority is the scenario. -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Geneforge series in Geneforge Series
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Friday, January 27 2006 16:41 Profile Homepage #1 It would have been bad back when GF3 was getting a lot of traffic, but it seems reasonable now that the GFs have all died down a bit. -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Piercing crystal - barrier question in Avernum 4
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Friday, January 27 2006 07:41 Profile Homepage #9 Ruins of Harston... oh, that's what that was! I never noticed that before. feels unobservant [ Friday, January 27, 2006 07:41: Message edited by: Kelandon ] -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Save this forum! in SubTerra
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Friday, January 27 2006 07:39 Profile Homepage #46 Well, yes, except that anyone who actually wants to talk about SubTerra would best be served going here. I mean, honestly, I feel as though everyone's interests would best be served if Spiderweb took down everything about SubTerra and just put up a link to Radiant's site. [ Friday, January 27, 2006 07:49: Message edited by: Kelandon ] -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Oops in General
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Friday, January 27 2006 07:36 Profile Homepage #5 I did notice both your absences, Thuryl and Marlenny. And I've posted almost fifty times in the past week. It's just been in the game boards for the most part. But I always post mostly in the game boards. [ Friday, January 27, 2006 07:37: Message edited by: Kelandon ] -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
Piercing crystal - barrier question in Avernum 4
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Thursday, January 26 2006 20:04 Profile Homepage #6 You can't buy it anywhere. -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
E1: Orb of Thralni in The Exile Trilogy
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Thursday, January 26 2006 20:03 Profile Homepage #2 Please direct discussion of this topic to this thread. -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
editor problem. in Blades of Avernum Editor
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Thursday, January 26 2006 18:36 Profile Homepage #4 Here. -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
editor problem. in Blades of Avernum
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Thursday, January 26 2006 18:36 Profile Homepage #4 Here. -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00
editor problem. in Blades of Avernum Editor
Kelandon Off With Their Heads Member # 4045	written Thursday, January 26 2006 17:53 Profile Homepage #2 The .exe file in question is the one that you actually double-click on to open the editor. When you open the editor, the .exe file is the thing you're clicking on. Move that .exe into the Data folder (not the Data file, which doesn't exist, but the Data folder). Alternatively, just use the 3D Editor and avoid all this mess. [ Thursday, January 26, 2006 17:54: Message edited by: Kelandon ] -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 \| Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00

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