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Apprentice
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What monsters are on your list? (Avernum 3)

iv got Drake lord , Ur-Balisk , vampire and empire dervish . Im considering making a new game only because im trying to get Doom guard as a summon creature, im also attempting to get slime lord.......

[ Wednesday, August 18, 2004 09:22: Message edited by: Fefner ]

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First of all, you picked an absolutely great and traditional topic to make your first post on.

Second of all, you can't have Doomguards because they a) have a special class and b) split.

As for me, I love Aranea Lords and different Golems.

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I hardly ever use Capture Soul and Simulacrum, but on the one or two times I did, I had two Ur-Basilisks, A Dark Wyrm, and some kind of spellcaster.

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Back in the Exile 3 days, I did h** e*** once to be able to summon a doom gaurd. Sadly I think I accidentally hit one and they just kept on popping up. Soon, I not only was surrounded by a legion of doom gaurds, but I couldn't tell which was hostile and which wasn't. So, I'd assume not allowing people to capture doom guards was for good reason.

What did happen after that unfortunate incident? My computer took forever to do anything and I ended up restarting my computer.
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Law Bringer
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I keep Ur-Basilisks, Null Bugs, and Gazers, but I hardly ever summon either one. They're not necessary. Creatures that are just fighters or casters, not utility creatures, are even more useless. They just steal experience when they kill things.

—Alorael, who doesn't think that guessing which doomguards are hostile and which are copies of the contraband summoning is an important question. Part of the problem is that copies of the creature are set to the default setting, which means the duplicates are all hostile to your party. Only the original will be on your side, and its propensity towards creating an army of enemies hardly makes it a great help.
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I've got
-Drake Lord -found him in Southern Valorim(is that spelled right?)
-Agumented Giant -Erikas's Tower
-Orge Mage -From a bunch of them' and sliths near Erika's Tower
-Ur Basilisk -The Anama temple
-Glydden -Warrior Priest from Delis

I had the Alien Slime, not Slime Lord, but I got rid of it hwen I got the giant.

[ Thursday, August 19, 2004 04:17: Message edited by: vahnatai_hell_fyre ]

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Absouletly sweet ^ ^ . I dont do any of quest ussualy. i just started and almost finished with the slime one because im tryin to get Alien slime (alien lord thing).Ussually i just go around killing towns and summoning foul rats to kill the kittens for me :D thnx for replying :) . Fefner 0 Loathed , HP:3088 :P

[ Thursday, August 19, 2004 05:25: Message edited by: Fefner ]

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quote:
-Alorael, who doesn't think that guessing which doomguards are hostile and which are copies of the contraband summoning is an important question. Part of the problem is that copies of the creature are set to the default setting, which means the duplicates are all hostile to your party. Only the original will be on your side, and its propensity towards creating an army of enemies hardly makes it a great help.
Gee... I never knew that. Could be why they kind of... um... turned against me all of a sudden. :rolleyes:
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In the Trilogy, I pretty much never used these spells, although they are indispensable in Blades. I think I had a Dervish, a Wizard, and possibly a Gazer or Mung Demon at some point or another. I never found them to be worthwhile to Simulacrum back up, though; on the rare occasions when I felt the need to summon something, I could always use Arcane Summon instead.

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I use Ur-Basilisk and Mutant Giant. I rarely use them though.

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I remember i used to have a wizard, vampire and ur-basilisk, i think. Didn't use it much but that just makes it more exciting when you do use it.

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I'd say I have a good batch of simulacrums in my Torment file. Power Crystal, Drake Lord, Dark Wyrm, and a Haakai. In torment these come in handy quite a bit for me.

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quote:
Originally written by ditech2:

Back in the Exile 3 days, I did h** e*** once to be able to summon a doom gaurd. Sadly I think I accidentally hit one and they just kept on popping up. Soon, I not only was surrounded by a legion of doom gaurds, but I couldn't tell which was hostile and which wasn't. So, I'd assume not allowing people to capture doom guards was for good reason.

What did happen after that unfortunate incident? My computer took forever to do anything and I ended up restarting my computer.

Doomguards are hostile by default so every Doomguard split from the one you summoned should have been hostile.
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I use an Order Mage and an Emperial Archer.

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In Avernum, unlike Exile, splitting Doomguards remain on the side that the original was on.

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An Ur-Basilisk was the only creature I ever thought of as necessary, only because they dispose of Doom-Guards rather neatly.

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Infiltrator
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for real battle i only use dark wyrm.
the rest i use for fun only, like alien slime or something.
im wondering if you can capture dogs and the like..?

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Apprentice
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Well, back in Exile simulclarum was actually useful.

In Avernum, it just got worse and worse.

By the time you get to Avernum 3, I personally thought the spell was next to useless.

Theres no point summoning weak creatures with this spell, and strong creatures not only require large chunks of SP, they dont last long (I havnt played A3 in a long time, but IIRC I stopped using Simulclarum after I realised the creatures I summoned tended to dissappear after 3 rounds. Actually, that was probably A2.), and they have practically no real effect on a given battle (You can just slaughter everything yourself). Plus, unlike Exile, you cant capture the soul of particularly cool creatures (eg dragons), not to mention that the spell is a hostile one, which notches its usefullness down yet another level.

Having said that, I have just checked my save file and I had:
Gazer
Dark Wyrm
Hakaai
Efreet

IIRC I practically never used them, but it seems plenty of other people use them to great effect. Whatever floats your boat I guess.
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Agent
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I haven't gotten far yet but my soul is the cool kind of demon

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In my A2 game I have the evil wizard Grazerl(I have no idea how to spell his name). It's cool becouse I use him to fight himself.

Other then that I never use the spell.

Yes Sasuke, the spell seemed not to be needed in A3.
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Apprentice
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yeah I agree not the most useful spell, but I reckon its best use is pitting monsters of your choice against each other.
How else could you answer the age old question who would win in a fight between a cat and a dog, or how long a child would last against a drake lord.

By the way I think my list was
guard
darkwurm
crystal soul
kitten

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Agent
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I rarely use them but my list is

Ur-Basilisk
Basilisk
Guard
Wizard

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Agent
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I didn't have Capture Soul in my copy of Avernum, only Simulacrum. It summoned whatever I targeted. Is that just me, or what?

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The only time I remember using the capture soul and simulacrum spell was right after I got them in A3, on that spiny worm you can find in the same Vahatni settlement.

It was fun to just summon it against weak creatures if i got bored, but i never bothered to capture any strong or usefull monsters
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Hang on - WAIT! Maybe I'm getting BoA and A3 mixed up. Yeah, I did have it in A3, but not in BoA!

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