Getting political
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Apprentice
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written Thursday, February 14 2008 17:22
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quote:No, me! I say no-one gets to vote. But then again, according to that, I shouldn't tell you whether you should vote or not... ... but they can't tell me not to tell you - I am confusored. :( Posts: 10 | Registered: Tuesday, February 14 2006 08:00 |
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Agent
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written Thursday, February 14 2008 17:38
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I wouldn't be opposed to raising the voting age to twenty-one. Besides that, I don't believe anything should be changed. It's a bit hard to pick out the informed people from the brainwashed ones. -------------------- Decca Records - "We don't like their sound. Groups of guitars are on the way out." Posts: 1384 | Registered: Tuesday, February 6 2007 08:00 |
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Guardian
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written Thursday, February 14 2008 17:42
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Nalyd wouldn't mind a test to determine your voting ability. -------------------- Fear us, mortals, but never envy, for though we burn with power, our fuel is our sorrows. Posts: 1636 | Registered: Wednesday, January 5 2005 08:00 |
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By Committee
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written Thursday, February 14 2008 18:26
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Great! Go ahead and strip our country of the few remaining ideals from the Declaration of Independence that linger. :) Any sort of "test" to determine voter eligibility would only serve to disenfranchise an enormous part of the population along economic lines. Enough protections for their property interests already exist in the system (probably too many); they don't need any more. The cure to this "problem" is more information, not the establishment of a restricted, elitist class of voters. Happily, information is more widely available today than its ever been. [ Thursday, February 14, 2008 18:27: Message edited by: Drew ] Posts: 2242 | Registered: Saturday, April 10 2004 07:00 |
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Shaper
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written Thursday, February 14 2008 19:36
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Anyone that can read and is able to name the candidates should be allowed to vote. But Tullegolar, what about all the little children who would have their parents telling them who to vote for? I don't really have a problem with families getting extra votes. They have more to gain and lose from the government, plus they are raising future citizens, so I say let them have it. -------------------- You lose. Posts: 2156 | Registered: Thursday, August 24 2006 07:00 |
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? Man, ? Amazing
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written Thursday, February 14 2008 21:49
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The real question is how do I get appointed to the electoral college. They are the only votes that matter anyhow. -------------------- Synergy, et al - "I don't get it." Argon - "I'm at a loss for words..." Posts: 4114 | Registered: Monday, April 25 2005 07:00 |
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Electric Sheep One
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written Thursday, February 14 2008 22:24
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After 2000, everyone in the world learned that the US president is really elected by the handful of electoral college members, not the massive general election. But the details of how this system actually works are still not widely understood. The elephant in the middle of the room, which the media managed to avoid mentioning throughout the 2000 fiasco, is the fact that membership in the electoral college is hereditary, being held by lineal descendents of George Washington's Freemason lodge. Careful gerrymandering since the 19th century has also kept half of the House of Representatives, and nearly all of the US Senate, in the effective control of tiny groups of voters. We hear these people referred to as 'swing voters', but few people realize that 'swing voters' are in fact the tenants and domestic servants of a small number of establishment families. The members of the Electoral College, to be precise. -------------------- Listen carefully because some of your options may have changed. Posts: 3335 | Registered: Thursday, September 4 2003 07:00 |
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Shaper
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written Friday, February 15 2008 04:07
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quote:Then you run the risk of people having children solely for the sake of political power... -------------------- Lt. Sullust Quaere verum Posts: 2462 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00 |
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written Friday, February 15 2008 04:13
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It's not like people don't already have kids for stupider reasons. I don't have an exact figure for how many babies born last year were the result of unplanned pregnancies, but it's on the order of 50%. -------------------- The Empire Always Loses: This Time For Sure! Posts: 9973 | Registered: Saturday, March 30 2002 08:00 |
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Shaper
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written Friday, February 15 2008 04:46
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An unplanned pregnancy is completely different than having a child solely to increase your voting power... -------------------- Lt. Sullust Quaere verum Posts: 2462 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00 |
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Shaper
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written Friday, February 15 2008 04:50
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quote:But then you wouldn't actually have a choice in the matter. The people in your state would be telling you who to vote for. Children: I'm all about encouraging population growth. -------------------- You lose. Posts: 2156 | Registered: Thursday, August 24 2006 07:00 |
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Shaper
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written Friday, February 15 2008 09:07
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They are still free to choose who they want to vote for; however it is rare that this is actually exercised... -------------------- Lt. Sullust Quaere verum Posts: 2462 | Registered: Wednesday, October 3 2001 07:00 |
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Off With Their Heads
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written Friday, February 15 2008 11:08
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quote:Completely different, yes, hence stupider reasons. -------------------- Arancaytar: Every time you ask people to compare TM and Kel, you endanger the poor, fluffy kittens. Smoo: Get ready to face the walls! Ephesos: In conclusion, yarr. Kelandon's Pink and Pretty Page!!: the authorized location for all things by me The Archive of all released BoE scenarios ever Posts: 7968 | Registered: Saturday, February 28 2004 08:00 |
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For Carnage, Apply Within
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written Friday, February 15 2008 14:31
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Spending the amount of money necessary to raise a child just to get a single vote for your preferred party does not seem very efficient. You'd do better to spend it on advertizing. -------------------- [http://forum.nethergate.net/index.php?showforum=30]The BoA Arena: Two collections of zeroes and ones enter. One collection of zeroes and ones leaves. Posts: 567 | Registered: Friday, October 5 2001 07:00 |
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Councilor
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written Friday, February 15 2008 16:18
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And don't forget that there's a fairly good chance they could grow up to be rebellious... Dikiyoba. -------------------- Episode 4: Spiderweb Reloaded Posts: 4346 | Registered: Friday, December 23 2005 08:00 |
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Raven v. Writing Desk
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written Friday, February 15 2008 19:14
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quote:Is this true? I haven't encountered this elephant before, and I can't find it anywhere in the wikipedia article on the US electoral college. I thought electors were appointed by winning parties on a per-election basis. -------------------- Slarty vs. Desk • Desk vs. Slarty • Timeline of Ermarian • G4 Strategy Central "Slartucker is going to have a cow when he hears about this," Synergy said. Posts: 3560 | Registered: Wednesday, November 7 2001 08:00 |
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written Friday, February 15 2008 20:12
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quote:It's SoT. He's being silly. You've either been reading far too much Robert Anton Wilson or not nearly enough. [ Friday, February 15, 2008 20:13: Message edited by: Thuryl ] -------------------- The Empire Always Loses: This Time For Sure! Posts: 9973 | Registered: Saturday, March 30 2002 08:00 |
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Warrior
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written Sunday, February 17 2008 12:35
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I'm a conservative. Can you see why I'm depressed this election? Our only strong candidate swindled his way into being the front runner and plays the dirtiest politics on either side of the aisle. He also took all of Guilliani's liberal winner-takes-all states (what could be less democratic than unequal representation in select parts of the country that specifically benefit one candidate?) McCain has stubbornly opposed almost every bill Bush has proposed, not because they were good or bad ideas, but because he lost the primary to him and did it out of spite. McCain also passed legislation to make it difficult for poor candidates to run because they needed private funding(Dirty move 1, and might I say how impressively Huckabee handled this), he slandered his main competition(Romney) in Florida with total farces right before the election with no chance for Romney to defend himself(Dirty move 2). He also pulled the West Virginia "vote for Huckabee" move (Dirty move 3). If McCain gets elected, then the Republican party (which I've already stopped affiliating myself with) is as good as destroyed. If McCain gets into office, he'll just do whatever he feels like doing. Any and all promises he made for when he gets into office will only be kept if it benefits him. McCain is not a conservative or a republican. He's a McCainian. Hmm, sorry about the rant. I don't know if you want to call it a bash, or just my hating dirty politics. Maybe I should rephrase that, all politics are dirty, but McCain eats the stuff like a fat kid eats ice cream. Anyway, I'm not even sure there was ever a good candidate for me, but I'd say that since the economy is one of my bigger issues, I'd have voted for Romney. [ Sunday, February 17, 2008 12:36: Message edited by: Gale ] Posts: 167 | Registered: Saturday, January 31 2004 08:00 |
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BANNED
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written Sunday, February 17 2008 13:00
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I respect the courageous position you maintain I agree wholeheartedly. Conservatives seek to preserve tradition, and what's more anathemic to the American way than blind, heartless money-grubbing? If only we could return to the traditional values of our slave-holding ancestors. Hamilton was right: We should have a monarchy. (I can scarcely imagine how glorious a dynasty in this country would be.) Posts: 134 | Registered: Sunday, February 3 2008 08:00 |
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For Carnage, Apply Within
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written Sunday, February 17 2008 16:54
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Gale has it exactly right. McCain's lifetime rating from the American Conservative Union is only an 82.3. That's a B-minus! In this time of war, can we really afford a B-minus president? -------------------- [http://forum.nethergate.net/index.php?showforum=30]The BoA Arena: Two collections of zeroes and ones enter. One collection of zeroes and ones leaves. Posts: 567 | Registered: Friday, October 5 2001 07:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Sunday, February 17 2008 17:19
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quote:We're already saddled with an F. Why not? :P [ Sunday, February 17, 2008 17:22: Message edited by: Tyranicus ] -------------------- "Dumbledore returns from the dead and declares it to be hammertime, Harry proceeds to break it down, Voldemort is unable to touch this." —Dintiradan Spiderweb Chat Room Avernum RP • Summaries • OoC • Roster Shadow Vale - My site, home of the Spiderweb Chat Database, BoA Scenario Database, & the A1 Quest List, among other things. Posts: 1556 | Registered: Sunday, November 20 2005 08:00 |
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Shock Trooper
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written Sunday, February 17 2008 22:17
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I don't care if it's obama or if its hillary. Anyone but Bush!!! -------------------- "Inspiration comes from hard work" -Charles Baudelaire. Posts: 292 | Registered: Sunday, November 23 2003 08:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Sunday, February 17 2008 23:17
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You do realize that Bush can't run, right? —Alorael, who almost thinks that's a shame. Surely, surely he couldn't win a bid for the presidency in 2008. Surely America is better than that. Posts: 14579 | Registered: Saturday, December 1 2001 08:00 |
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Law Bringer
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written Sunday, February 17 2008 23:38
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They re-elect Bush after the first 4 years. There are no limits to stupidity. I think if Bush hadn't lost the Congress he might have tried to get the constitutional amendment for term limits removed. There still isn't anything against him declaring martial law except the soldiers hate him too for Iraq. Posts: 4643 | Registered: Friday, February 10 2006 08:00 |
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Shaper
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written Monday, February 18 2008 01:33
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We don't have enough troops left in the homeland for martial law. -------------------- You lose. Posts: 2156 | Registered: Thursday, August 24 2006 07:00 |