Profile for Xoid
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| Displayed name | Xoid |
| Member number | 932 |
| Title | Shock Trooper |
| Postcount | 215 |
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| Registered | Sunday, April 7 2002 08:00 |
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| Bunch of (mostly) pointless BoA editor questions... in Blades of Avernum Editor | |
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Shock Trooper
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written Friday, September 30 2005 15:16
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quote:Should have been more clear, but Imban answered that one - I'm just going to have to test it. sigh. Thanks guys, this'll save me at least digging for non-existant calls on the date thing, and confirms my suspicions with the custom items. Incidentally: I wander far too much in A2, I don't think I've ever finished in less than Icefall 1, 824. -------------------- Microsoft Patents Ones, Zeroes (March 25, 1998) "Asians are good at Starcraft because they're always squinting, thus they can see things sharply. Remember to always squint in war." ~ Sun-Tzu Posts: 215 | Registered: Sunday, April 7 2002 08:00 |
| Bunch of (mostly) pointless BoA editor questions... in Blades of Avernum | |
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Shock Trooper
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written Friday, September 30 2005 15:16
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quote:Should have been more clear, but Imban answered that one - I'm just going to have to test it. sigh. Thanks guys, this'll save me at least digging for non-existant calls on the date thing, and confirms my suspicions with the custom items. Incidentally: I wander far too much in A2, I don't think I've ever finished in less than Icefall 1, 824. -------------------- Microsoft Patents Ones, Zeroes (March 25, 1998) "Asians are good at Starcraft because they're always squinting, thus they can see things sharply. Remember to always squint in war." ~ Sun-Tzu Posts: 215 | Registered: Sunday, April 7 2002 08:00 |
| Bunch of (mostly) pointless BoA editor questions... in Blades of Avernum Editor | |
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Shock Trooper
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written Thursday, September 29 2005 21:10
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Question 1: What exactly are the consequences of altering default creatures from BoA? Example: In my scenariodata.txt I import #22 to #255, alter #255 and import it back to #22. If in the corescendata.txt #23 imports #22... see where I'm going with this? Question 2: What exactly are the consequences of altering default items from BoA? Question 3:If altering them has no... horrible effects, what are the prospects of someone completing/balancing certain item sets? i.e. Plate Boots, Titanium Boots, uh... where are the bronze boots to go with the bronze platemail, and why is the dragonskin cloak called a dragonskin cloak? Why is there poor leather armour, but no poor leather boots? Etc. Question 4: Is it possible to alter the date that BoA shows? Question 5: What was the 'official' date that A2 finishes? i.e. When did our enterprising hero(es) win? -------------------- Microsoft Patents Ones, Zeroes (March 25, 1998) "Asians are good at Starcraft because they're always squinting, thus they can see things sharply. Remember to always squint in war." ~ Sun-Tzu Posts: 215 | Registered: Sunday, April 7 2002 08:00 |
| Bunch of (mostly) pointless BoA editor questions... in Blades of Avernum | |
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Shock Trooper
Member # 932
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written Thursday, September 29 2005 21:10
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Question 1: What exactly are the consequences of altering default creatures from BoA? Example: In my scenariodata.txt I import #22 to #255, alter #255 and import it back to #22. If in the corescendata.txt #23 imports #22... see where I'm going with this? Question 2: What exactly are the consequences of altering default items from BoA? Question 3:If altering them has no... horrible effects, what are the prospects of someone completing/balancing certain item sets? i.e. Plate Boots, Titanium Boots, uh... where are the bronze boots to go with the bronze platemail, and why is the dragonskin cloak called a dragonskin cloak? Why is there poor leather armour, but no poor leather boots? Etc. Question 4: Is it possible to alter the date that BoA shows? Question 5: What was the 'official' date that A2 finishes? i.e. When did our enterprising hero(es) win? -------------------- Microsoft Patents Ones, Zeroes (March 25, 1998) "Asians are good at Starcraft because they're always squinting, thus they can see things sharply. Remember to always squint in war." ~ Sun-Tzu Posts: 215 | Registered: Sunday, April 7 2002 08:00 |
| It's the A2Template! in Blades of Avernum Editor | |
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Shock Trooper
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written Thursday, September 29 2005 20:51
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I could not agree more, Kelandon. @Grape slime: Regardless of the legality - there are so many differences between the two engines that game balance alone could take upwards of four months to tailor suitably. Just the terrain was upwards of an 18/7 endevour(sp?) for two weeks straight (plus a one week hiatus for sheer laziness). Scripting everything in, plus cross platform enabling the scenario (graphics formats people...) makes a singular effort to be improbable in the extreme. It really should have gone without saying: A complete remake of Avernum 2 that Jeff would be unable to charge people for without investing time on altering BoA's code - for yet another remake - is a very real and totally justified reason for Jeff to sue. -------------------- Microsoft Patents Ones, Zeroes (March 25, 1998) "Asians are good at Starcraft because they're always squinting, thus they can see things sharply. Remember to always squint in war." ~ Sun-Tzu Posts: 215 | Registered: Sunday, April 7 2002 08:00 |
| It's the A2Template! in Blades of Avernum | |
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Shock Trooper
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written Thursday, September 29 2005 20:51
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I could not agree more, Kelandon. @Grape slime: Regardless of the legality - there are so many differences between the two engines that game balance alone could take upwards of four months to tailor suitably. Just the terrain was upwards of an 18/7 endevour(sp?) for two weeks straight (plus a one week hiatus for sheer laziness). Scripting everything in, plus cross platform enabling the scenario (graphics formats people...) makes a singular effort to be improbable in the extreme. It really should have gone without saying: A complete remake of Avernum 2 that Jeff would be unable to charge people for without investing time on altering BoA's code - for yet another remake - is a very real and totally justified reason for Jeff to sue. -------------------- Microsoft Patents Ones, Zeroes (March 25, 1998) "Asians are good at Starcraft because they're always squinting, thus they can see things sharply. Remember to always squint in war." ~ Sun-Tzu Posts: 215 | Registered: Sunday, April 7 2002 08:00 |
| It's the A2Template! in Blades of Avernum Editor | |
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Shock Trooper
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written Thursday, September 29 2005 19:52
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Sorry, I'm as blind as a bat then. Similar thing happened with Wikipedia earlier today - I really need to get my eyes checked. That and I really need to stop typing. -------------------- Microsoft Patents Ones, Zeroes (March 25, 1998) "Asians are good at Starcraft because they're always squinting, thus they can see things sharply. Remember to always squint in war." ~ Sun-Tzu Posts: 215 | Registered: Sunday, April 7 2002 08:00 |
| It's the A2Template! in Blades of Avernum | |
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Shock Trooper
Member # 932
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written Thursday, September 29 2005 19:52
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Sorry, I'm as blind as a bat then. Similar thing happened with Wikipedia earlier today - I really need to get my eyes checked. That and I really need to stop typing. -------------------- Microsoft Patents Ones, Zeroes (March 25, 1998) "Asians are good at Starcraft because they're always squinting, thus they can see things sharply. Remember to always squint in war." ~ Sun-Tzu Posts: 215 | Registered: Sunday, April 7 2002 08:00 |
| Interesting A1 Glitch in The Avernum Trilogy | |
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Shock Trooper
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written Thursday, September 29 2005 19:48
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I'm certain this is not A1 specific bug, I've experienced it all through out the Avernum trilogy - infrequently but at least once in Avernum 1, 2 and 3. In every case it has been seemingly random - the only common factor I can remember, is that this happened whilst I was switching programs constantly via Alt-Tab. This indicates to me that it might be 'memory contamination', y'know, where some program writes over the data in memory that is used by another program without properly checking if that data is no longer required. But this is just speculation really. [ Thursday, September 29, 2005 19:49: Message edited by: CPeters ] -------------------- Microsoft Patents Ones, Zeroes (March 25, 1998) "Asians are good at Starcraft because they're always squinting, thus they can see things sharply. Remember to always squint in war." ~ Sun-Tzu Posts: 215 | Registered: Sunday, April 7 2002 08:00 |
| It's the A2Template! in Blades of Avernum Editor | |
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Shock Trooper
Member # 932
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written Thursday, September 29 2005 19:35
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@Kelandon Sorry for not responding promptly but I 'work' irregular hours - much like Jeff really come to think of it. I don't have any problems with the page, but adding a link from http://home.sanbrunocable.com/~tommywatts03/ to http://home.sanbrunocable.com/~tommywatts03/A2Template.html seems logical. If I've just overlooked an already present link, then disregard this. Also, forgive my ignorance, but the *.sit format, I'm assuming this is Mac's native archive format? I'm sure I've got a utility that can open *.sit files, but do other Windows users? (Does it even matter really? Isn't almost every scenario maker a Mac user?) Either way if the link that says "Avernum 2 Template v1.0.zip" is pointing to a *.sit file as it seems to be doing... that's misleading. @Archmagus Micael: I've just sent it to you, it is in *.zip format (don't have a utility that can create *.sit files, but aren't you a Windows user anyway?) Otherwise grab it from Kelandon's site. @Overwhelming: I have no idea why Hotmail hates me but it wont send you the file, sorry about that. Either that or I'm somehow screwing up your email address. @Anyone even mildly interested in this... Please, give the scenario a once over and report any stupid mistakes to me: xoid (at) hotmail (dot) com Finally: I should have documentation listing deliberate changes from A2's terrain in a couple of days - its mostly done but the prolific swearing in it needs removal - don't ask. [ Thursday, September 29, 2005 19:36: Message edited by: CPeters ] -------------------- Microsoft Patents Ones, Zeroes (March 25, 1998) "Asians are good at Starcraft because they're always squinting, thus they can see things sharply. Remember to always squint in war." ~ Sun-Tzu Posts: 215 | Registered: Sunday, April 7 2002 08:00 |
| It's the A2Template! in Blades of Avernum | |
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Shock Trooper
Member # 932
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written Thursday, September 29 2005 19:35
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@Kelandon Sorry for not responding promptly but I 'work' irregular hours - much like Jeff really come to think of it. I don't have any problems with the page, but adding a link from http://home.sanbrunocable.com/~tommywatts03/ to http://home.sanbrunocable.com/~tommywatts03/A2Template.html seems logical. If I've just overlooked an already present link, then disregard this. Also, forgive my ignorance, but the *.sit format, I'm assuming this is Mac's native archive format? I'm sure I've got a utility that can open *.sit files, but do other Windows users? (Does it even matter really? Isn't almost every scenario maker a Mac user?) Either way if the link that says "Avernum 2 Template v1.0.zip" is pointing to a *.sit file as it seems to be doing... that's misleading. @Archmagus Micael: I've just sent it to you, it is in *.zip format (don't have a utility that can create *.sit files, but aren't you a Windows user anyway?) Otherwise grab it from Kelandon's site. @Overwhelming: I have no idea why Hotmail hates me but it wont send you the file, sorry about that. Either that or I'm somehow screwing up your email address. @Anyone even mildly interested in this... Please, give the scenario a once over and report any stupid mistakes to me: xoid (at) hotmail (dot) com Finally: I should have documentation listing deliberate changes from A2's terrain in a couple of days - its mostly done but the prolific swearing in it needs removal - don't ask. [ Thursday, September 29, 2005 19:36: Message edited by: CPeters ] -------------------- Microsoft Patents Ones, Zeroes (March 25, 1998) "Asians are good at Starcraft because they're always squinting, thus they can see things sharply. Remember to always squint in war." ~ Sun-Tzu Posts: 215 | Registered: Sunday, April 7 2002 08:00 |
| It's the A2Template! in Blades of Avernum Editor | |
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Shock Trooper
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written Thursday, September 29 2005 00:55
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Oops. I thought there was another seven sections to do, apparently there were only about four. I've done all that I can do - sections that I couldn't enter in A2 remain mostly incomplete. (Mainly to the north of Erika's Tower and west of Staging Ground D,which is just west of the Mass Teleporter.) I have sent the complete-est possible alpha off to Kelandon and Overwhelming, hopefully there is nothing wrong with it. Or any obvious and stupid mistakes that'll make me red faced, for that matter. There is an excess row and column of sections to the left and bottom of the scenario - this has to do with the fact that the riverways right at the edge in at least four sections. You could trim them, but I included them for completeness. @Overwhelming: My email to you bounced - not sure why. Will retry in the morning. [ Thursday, September 29, 2005 01:42: Message edited by: CPeters ] -------------------- Microsoft Patents Ones, Zeroes (March 25, 1998) "Asians are good at Starcraft because they're always squinting, thus they can see things sharply. Remember to always squint in war." ~ Sun-Tzu Posts: 215 | Registered: Sunday, April 7 2002 08:00 |
| It's the A2Template! in Blades of Avernum | |
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Shock Trooper
Member # 932
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written Thursday, September 29 2005 00:55
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Oops. I thought there was another seven sections to do, apparently there were only about four. I've done all that I can do - sections that I couldn't enter in A2 remain mostly incomplete. (Mainly to the north of Erika's Tower and west of Staging Ground D,which is just west of the Mass Teleporter.) I have sent the complete-est possible alpha off to Kelandon and Overwhelming, hopefully there is nothing wrong with it. Or any obvious and stupid mistakes that'll make me red faced, for that matter. There is an excess row and column of sections to the left and bottom of the scenario - this has to do with the fact that the riverways right at the edge in at least four sections. You could trim them, but I included them for completeness. @Overwhelming: My email to you bounced - not sure why. Will retry in the morning. [ Thursday, September 29, 2005 01:42: Message edited by: CPeters ] -------------------- Microsoft Patents Ones, Zeroes (March 25, 1998) "Asians are good at Starcraft because they're always squinting, thus they can see things sharply. Remember to always squint in war." ~ Sun-Tzu Posts: 215 | Registered: Sunday, April 7 2002 08:00 |
| It's the A2Template! in Blades of Avernum Editor | |
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Shock Trooper
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written Saturday, September 24 2005 03:25
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Argh... never been too into using forums, here's hoping that bumping this thread by posting after myself isn't considered double/triple/whatever posting. An update for anyone who hasn't forgotten about this little project of mine: Reasons Why I Got Side-tracked This WeekCar troubles.High school graduation ceremony.I got sick.Needed a break.Read too many webcomics.Relatives visited.To put it in a nutshell; it is unlikely that it'll be ready until the end of the month. If Kelandon or Overwhelming really want to host the incomplete alpha, I'll send it along. Note: Although all of the A2 areas are done are mostly correctly done - I'm not perfect - there is likely to be at least 1 screwup somewhere... - I've started to reconstruct a couple of sections that were inaccessible in A2 from the accessible version in A1. As such they will not fit in perfectly. -------------------- Microsoft Patents Ones, Zeroes (March 25, 1998) "Asians are good at Starcraft because they're always squinting, thus they can see things sharply. Remember to always squint in war." ~ Sun-Tzu Posts: 215 | Registered: Sunday, April 7 2002 08:00 |
| It's the A2Template! in Blades of Avernum | |
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Shock Trooper
Member # 932
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written Saturday, September 24 2005 03:25
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Argh... never been too into using forums, here's hoping that bumping this thread by posting after myself isn't considered double/triple/whatever posting. An update for anyone who hasn't forgotten about this little project of mine: Reasons Why I Got Side-tracked This WeekCar troubles.High school graduation ceremony.I got sick.Needed a break.Read too many webcomics.Relatives visited.To put it in a nutshell; it is unlikely that it'll be ready until the end of the month. If Kelandon or Overwhelming really want to host the incomplete alpha, I'll send it along. Note: Although all of the A2 areas are done are mostly correctly done - I'm not perfect - there is likely to be at least 1 screwup somewhere... - I've started to reconstruct a couple of sections that were inaccessible in A2 from the accessible version in A1. As such they will not fit in perfectly. -------------------- Microsoft Patents Ones, Zeroes (March 25, 1998) "Asians are good at Starcraft because they're always squinting, thus they can see things sharply. Remember to always squint in war." ~ Sun-Tzu Posts: 215 | Registered: Sunday, April 7 2002 08:00 |
| It's the A2Template! in Blades of Avernum Editor | |
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Shock Trooper
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written Monday, September 19 2005 05:35
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An update if anyone is interested: I've completed the section with Bargha & Harston in it, almost finished the section with Formello in it. Over 30 sections done so far - including a reconstruction of the Chasm of the Spire - as accurated as possible given the circumstances. By either the end of this week or the beginning of next I should have it completed. Would have had it sooner but the Waterfall Warrens were a true pain to reconstruct, that and unavoidable cave giants keep getting in the way of my surveying in the "Giant Infested Lands" section. -------------------- Microsoft Patents Ones, Zeroes (March 25, 1998) "Asians are good at Starcraft because they're always squinting, thus they can see things sharply. Remember to always squint in war." ~ Sun-Tzu Posts: 215 | Registered: Sunday, April 7 2002 08:00 |
| It's the A2Template! in Blades of Avernum | |
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Shock Trooper
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written Monday, September 19 2005 05:35
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An update if anyone is interested: I've completed the section with Bargha & Harston in it, almost finished the section with Formello in it. Over 30 sections done so far - including a reconstruction of the Chasm of the Spire - as accurated as possible given the circumstances. By either the end of this week or the beginning of next I should have it completed. Would have had it sooner but the Waterfall Warrens were a true pain to reconstruct, that and unavoidable cave giants keep getting in the way of my surveying in the "Giant Infested Lands" section. -------------------- Microsoft Patents Ones, Zeroes (March 25, 1998) "Asians are good at Starcraft because they're always squinting, thus they can see things sharply. Remember to always squint in war." ~ Sun-Tzu Posts: 215 | Registered: Sunday, April 7 2002 08:00 |
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Shock Trooper
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written Thursday, September 15 2005 23:55
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Hours of insanity for the whole family. quote: -------------------- Microsoft Patents Ones, Zeroes (March 25, 1998) "Asians are good at Starcraft because they're always squinting, thus they can see things sharply. Remember to always squint in war." ~ Sun-Tzu's The Fart of War Posts: 215 | Registered: Sunday, April 7 2002 08:00 |
| It's the A2Template! in Blades of Avernum Editor | |
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written Thursday, September 15 2005 22:51
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That would be very much appreciated Kelandon. For now though I'll be getting back to work, as I've been slacking off. Mainly reading too many webcomics for my own good. And being too wordy. -------------------- Microsoft Patents Ones, Zeroes (March 25, 1998) "Asians are good at Starcraft because they're always squinting, thus they can see things sharply. Remember to always squint in war." ~ Sun-Tzu Posts: 215 | Registered: Sunday, April 7 2002 08:00 |
| It's the A2Template! in Blades of Avernum | |
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Shock Trooper
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written Thursday, September 15 2005 22:51
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That would be very much appreciated Kelandon. For now though I'll be getting back to work, as I've been slacking off. Mainly reading too many webcomics for my own good. And being too wordy. -------------------- Microsoft Patents Ones, Zeroes (March 25, 1998) "Asians are good at Starcraft because they're always squinting, thus they can see things sharply. Remember to always squint in war." ~ Sun-Tzu Posts: 215 | Registered: Sunday, April 7 2002 08:00 |
| A3 Windows save file please in The Avernum Trilogy | |
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Shock Trooper
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written Thursday, September 15 2005 22:25
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I've sent an email with the savegame attached, here is some info on it: I am at day 160: Either get through this QUICK, do the Tower of Magi, or turn the Tower of Magi boom off (under character editor.)I do not have the crystal that makes the Crystal Souls sleep. But if you want you can have it made still.I do not have Erika's amulet - but you can still get it if you want.The reason for these... oddities is because I wanted to wipe any Vahnatai that resist my merciless rampage out of existence. Also, I don't believe Erika deserves to die for those nut jobs to be stopped. Quite frankly I believe in a good pre-emptive strike: since Rentar-Ihrno is a nut job and will never forgive the Empire, taking out their Crystal Souls seems a prudent option. Frankly, if the Vahnatai wanted to wipe out the Empire, I couldn't care less, but their attack on the surface is a betrayal of their Avernite allies - because it would make it unliveable for Avernum - a far greater crime in my mind's eye than simply killing some oversized and arrogant batch of 'undead' - (the Crystal Souls had their mortal lives and they try and prolong them past death after all...) [ Thursday, September 15, 2005 22:26: Message edited by: CPeters ] -------------------- Microsoft Patents Ones, Zeroes (March 25, 1998) "Asians are good at Starcraft because they're always squinting, thus they can see things sharply. Remember to always squint in war." ~ Sun-Tzu Posts: 215 | Registered: Sunday, April 7 2002 08:00 |
| A3 Windows save file please in The Avernum Trilogy | |
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Shock Trooper
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written Thursday, September 15 2005 20:04
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I've got a late game save - 4 person party with most of the mod-cons. Apart from carving your way through Tinraya the rest is done. Would that suffice? -------------------- Microsoft Patents Ones, Zeroes (March 25, 1998) "Asians are good at Starcraft because they're always squinting, thus they can see things sharply. Remember to always squint in war." ~ Sun-Tzu Posts: 215 | Registered: Sunday, April 7 2002 08:00 |
| It's the A2Template! in Blades of Avernum Editor | |
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written Thursday, September 15 2005 19:21
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I am aware of why exactly beta test/ers/ing should apply regardless of my gut feeling that the effort is 'unworthy' of the title. So I'll be sticking with 'poor batch of saps I've conned into bug testing the evidence that I lack a real life'. For brevity it shall be shortened to beta test/ers/ing depending on what is referenced. :P -------------------- Microsoft Patents Ones, Zeroes (March 25, 1998) "Asians are good at Starcraft because they're always squinting, thus they can see things sharply. Remember to always squint in war." ~ Sun-Tzu Posts: 215 | Registered: Sunday, April 7 2002 08:00 |
| It's the A2Template! in Blades of Avernum | |
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written Thursday, September 15 2005 19:21
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I am aware of why exactly beta test/ers/ing should apply regardless of my gut feeling that the effort is 'unworthy' of the title. So I'll be sticking with 'poor batch of saps I've conned into bug testing the evidence that I lack a real life'. For brevity it shall be shortened to beta test/ers/ing depending on what is referenced. :P -------------------- Microsoft Patents Ones, Zeroes (March 25, 1998) "Asians are good at Starcraft because they're always squinting, thus they can see things sharply. Remember to always squint in war." ~ Sun-Tzu Posts: 215 | Registered: Sunday, April 7 2002 08:00 |
| It's the A2Template! in Blades of Avernum Editor | |
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written Thursday, September 15 2005 06:54
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quote:Not a chance in hell of reconstructing all of them. Major towns, (The Castle, Tower of Magi, etc.) are a strong possibility. Primarily dependant on whether others already have, or failing that, I might decide to include it under a second scenario file like I'm (inevitably) going to do with the Vahnatai's lands. Incidentally, just past Dharmon and the front lines is a section you can never get into - reconstructing this from Avernum 1 would be a highly subjective measure. Fort Spire (or it's ruins would be here. I know for a fact that Jeff never had a full section here - just enough so that can see mostly into it. However - there are two overlooked spots that a very observant person can see the road ends abruptly into this section - one from the Scree Pits (easy to notice), and one from the section Erika's Tower is in (very difficult...) - so things may not line up exactly. After going through Avernum 1 and investigating that section it is obvious that it will not properly fit into there. I am considering reconstructing this section and simply trimming some squares (approximately 5 to 8 would need to be) from the left edge. From a cursory inspection only a few minor side passages would be lost. Doing that section (Fort Spire's if you've already forgotten) will be a true *****. (Insert proper name for a female dog, as in I'm putting my b... out to stud, where the astericks are. Funnily enough, I do actually breed labradors. If I ever post about it I'm going to inadvertantly be censored by this infernal bulletin board.) I'm likely to end up doing it if even a couple of people show interest in my doing so. Also, I am aware of how to use an email client. And of course I'm going to compress it - regardless of how small it is my connection is slow - even a quarter meg seems to take millenia. (Sorry if all that reads like a snarky comment - I'm grumpy and tired.) I was merely unable to reconcile what to do if people pop up out of the woodworks, so to speak, and ask for a copy after I've already sent the email off. I'd prefer not to be constantly sending out mass emails if I can - so I'd prefer to keep the "beta" testing group relatively small. God, can I even call it a beta testing group really? It's not like it's an effort worthy of the name - merely reconstructing someone else's work. For the most part anyway. Might it more appropriately be called: 'poor batch of saps I've conned into bug testing the evidence that I lack a real life'? G'night people. I'm going to sleep. [ Thursday, September 15, 2005 22:49: Message edited by: CPeters ] -------------------- Microsoft Patents Ones, Zeroes (March 25, 1998) "Asians are good at Starcraft because they're always squinting, thus they can see things sharply. Remember to always squint in war." ~ Sun-Tzu Posts: 215 | Registered: Sunday, April 7 2002 08:00 |