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Came back from Holland to find that most of my best friends are bi. in General
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Originally written by Eldibs:

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Originally written by Gizmo:

You should read it more often if you plan on using biblical wisdom in your arguments/comments. I'm sure there are many here who would rather I not be enticed into quoting scripture.
I have read it. In fact, I've read most of the New Testament. It's just been a while since I've read it. Actually what I said was something I heard in church.
Don’t be so easily persuaded by a couple of scriptures thrown at you Eldibs. Ask Gizmo when the last time she sacrificed a goat was?

Context is important. Read verses 20-21 immediately after this in which the rich man says, I’ve done all these things (kept the laws), but I’m still lacking, and Jesus tells him that to enter the kingdom of heaven, he must sell all his things. So, here it would appear is yet another instruction for what is necessary for “going to heaven” as Christians like to imaginatively call it, but in the Greek it’s literally, “ enter into the the reigns of the heavens”. So, if you’re going to follow Jesus’ first instruction to this good Jew here who was told to obey the law of Moses, you need to also hang on His every word and sell all your possessions too, or you too will still be “lacking”—and we should recall that the word sin means “to fall short.” Ask Gizmo if she owns anything.

Jesus talked very ironically, sarcastically, cleverly, rhetorically, and in parables (in symbol) all the time. He is continually misunderstood by his own disciples and everyone else. He’s frequently not saying at all what his simple words translated into English (especially) would imply. He was throwing back at this “good rich Jew” who kept the law, exactly what he had been taught as a Jew—you have to keep the law to “enter heaven.” The man has grown wise enough to realize that keeping this external law has not been fulfilling. He still lacks. He instinctively wants something more fulfilling to his soul than a dead, external law. But he’s in love with riches and unwilling to let them go to “enter heaven.”

If you want to start getting really insightful about what Jesus is getting at here, you could see that He is really saying, “You are a Jew. You have the “riches” of the Law given to Israel and no one else. You have followed and worshipped this law, but it has left you feeling hollow, because I have come to show that man is made to live by spiritual life and law from the inside out, not the outside in. You have to now be willing to give up the riches of your beloved law if you really want to enter into the place where the life of God is ruling you. It’s from the heart outward, not the law inward.” Jesus was always hinting at things this way without being so directly obvious, and frequently, the target just took him literallly and didn’t get it anyway. Not unlike many today. Jesus wasn’t a simpleton. There is some genuine mischief and poking fun in how we went about making his points.

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Originally written by Gizmo:


Matthew 5:17-18 (The words of Jesus)

17. Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.
18. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means dissapear from the Law until everything is accomplished.

Here’s some more of this symbology the guy loved to talk in. The language of spiritual things is symbolic, and all prophecies are couched in symbols. Heaven and earth are symbols of spiritual and earthly realms of power and rulership. Earth is its government. For heaven and earth to “pass away”, Jesus and others weren’t talking astonomical cataclysms, it was about the former order of earthly and religious rulership passing away. In 70 A.D. for Israel, the Roman general Titus, who had had enough of the obnoxiously obstinate rabble rousers who were the Pharisees, encircled Jerusalem, slaughtered its inhabitants so blood ran like rivers in the streets, and razed the temple (and means of keeping the Law) to the ground. The heavens and earth of the Jews did indeed pass away on that day—especially their “heavens”—their religious rulership.

Truths run deeply in many layers, and Jesus wasn’t a guy to give you the truth you were after on the surface with simple words. He told his own disciples that “it wasn’t given” to the masses to understand his words and spiritual principles. He had to sit down with his disciples again and again and explain what he really meant with his words to those 12 simpletons. Jesus was a mystic, a rebel, a breaker of the rules, a friend of prostitutes, and a very clever orator. If the same guy came around today and started preaching in his style to the churches today, he’d be “crucified” all over again. I guarantee it.

Paul came along afterward and made it amply clear in Hebrews what the law was for and what its role is now. Jesus wasn’t here to teach that kind of thing in the first place, because he came to talk about and demonstrate a new kind of law which is spiritual life working from within and through the heart.

Love ya Gizmo. I just can't let you get away with that so easily though. ;)

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I wonder what would happen.... in The Avernum Trilogy
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Has anyone determined how many stages of destruction a city or town undergoes in A3? I got the impression it was only two: the state you initially find it in—under some degree of attack by the local monsters, and a second ravaged/destroyed state if enough time passes. Are there any in-between stages anyone has noticed? Also, it appears only certain cities are set up to be attacked directly and others will not. What happens after 200 or 300 days? Surely not the whole of Valorim is laid waste.

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The Abominable Photo Thread 3.6 in General
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Originally written by Drew:

no worries, Aran! I can't grow a beard to save my life either. :)
Good thing it's not usually required to do so, huh?

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Runescape anyone? in General
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Originally written by Marlenny:

Um, have you ever heard about that little thing called "being nice" or that other one called "wanting to help out"????. Not everything involves flirting or crushes.

It doesn't? What fun is that?

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Originally written by Thralni, emperor of Riverrod:
I'll be in world 67
Good choice!

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The Abominable Photo Thread 3.6 in General
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Originally written by Atrus:

Are you cracking jokes about my beard or the lack thereof, Mister? You be real careful...
The man IS armed with a piano after all.

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Originally written by Detta:

Here's one of me. Linked for size.
More pretty brunettes. This is a fine place. You look very happy, Detta. And let us remember to be polite with you. Looks like you can swing an axe no problem.

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Kissing a girl in General
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You left out a factor. You have to choose to take offense at the belief of someone, rather than merely, say, consider it unforfunate and worthy of challenge and demonstrative proof that the belief is wrong or hurtful.

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What's your best joke? in General
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How deliciously horrific, Nico.

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What's In A Name? in General
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I can never remember...are the seraphim the ones which hang from the top of the cave, or are those the cherubim?

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What's In A Name? in General
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Originally written by dreamqueen:

the dream bit came from all my mates telling me that i have my head in the clouds most of the time
If you ever take the Meyers-Briggs personality test, I'll bet you anything you'll have a great big "N" in there (iNtuitive).

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Originally written by VCH:

How many times has this thread been done?
Why don't you tell us, Number Two-Forty-Seven? (we can't all be three digits).

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Originally written by Thuryl:

My cat walked over my keyboard, I deleted some consonants and added some vowels, and thus my name was born.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

Thuryl-ly unlikely.

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Now, how sweet is this? I think someone has a lil' crush on our Marlenny. But someone is also clearly just a really nice and generous fellow. Nice to see. Very nice.

And that's all I have to say about that.

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I am... was 827,707,741 seconds old. in General
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Originally written by Belisarius:

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Originally written by Synergy67:

Belisarius, the degree of affect invoked by the topic for you is curious to me. Is it a hot button for you?
Nah, not really. It's just my all-encompassing hatred for ignorance talking.
Does your hatred for what you consider to be ignorant (in your own undoubtedly perfect discernment of it) bleed over onto the people you consider to demonstrate it?

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Originally written by Belisarius:

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Originally written by Jumpin' Salmon:
*this message sponsored by the hairy fishnuts*
I'm the only person any younger than either of you who gets this, just so you know.
Opus from Bloom County, wasn't it?

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What's In A Name? in General
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The power of Christ compels me...

Synergy...a nick I use because I love the concept of magical interaction in which the whole is greater than the sum of the parts. '67 was the Summer of Love (and holds other more esoteric meanings for me, including the symbology of numbers.)

Oh, and mostly, I just really like alliteration.

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I don't see no halo, mister.

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I'm the curious sort. Some might just call it nosy. I'm wondering how a lot of people around here chose their nicknames for this motley corner of the internet. Come on, 'fess up...it's good for you.

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Rats.

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What I am wondering is what kind of "dreams of unusual lovers" a 13 year old is having. Care to elaborate Zephyr? Does it involve a female nephil? This could be very entertaining. :D

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Man 1: Was your boss surprised to hear you're leaving your job?
Man 2: No, he knew before I did.

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And now, in the morbid spirit of the season, Epitaphs for Laughs:
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This first one's for Thralni:

Johnny was a chemist, but Johnny is no more, for what he thought was H2O was H2SO4.

Here lies all that's left of Johnny Bains. The roads were slick; he had no chains.

Here lies the body of Johhny Mound. Lost at sea and never found.

Here lies Ann Mann. She lived an old maid. She died an old Mann.

Shoot-em-up Jake. Ran for Sheriff, 1872. Ran from sheriff, 1873.

Underneath this pile of stones lies all that's left of Sally Jones. Her name was Briggs, it was not Jones...but Jones was used to rhyme with stones.

Merideth Baxter. Here lies one blown out of breath. She lived a merry life and she died a Merideth.

Here lies the body of Johnny Ray,
who died maintaining his right of way.
He was right—dead right—as he sped along...
but he's just as dead as if he'd been dead wrong.

Here lies the body of Sally Lonn. Her motor stopped but Sal went on.

We now return you to your regularly-scheduled deprogramming.

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What makes you so sure blood types CAN'T have a factor in shaping personality aspects? What makes you think the supposedly possible influence of spacial bodies upon the personality typing of living beings is gravitational in nature? I'm not interested in debating astrology however. Talk about a pointless exercise.

Belisarius, the degree of affect invoked by the topic for you is curious to me. Is it a hot button for you?

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Originally written by Thuryl:

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Originally written by Synergy67:

I shortly expect to see the logicians and scientists in our midst come forth to explain why it's utterly ridiculous to pay any homage to mysticisms.
Not much point, is there? You haven't even provided any evidence for us to debunk.

Do you think that's a coincidence? ;)

Mine is more to observe, philosophize, imagine, and hopefully to nurture in life, not debate many points scientifically. Science ultimately doesn't prove much to me anyway, if we have whole other aspects to the universe which do not operate on the level of physical science. I am very open to that (to me) evident likelihood.

As I see it, the conceit of science (or any professional paradigm: western allopathic medicine, for example) is the all too usual myopic exclusion of and failure to integrate other possibilities.

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Originally written by Thuryl:

By posting about personal issues on a public forum Alex implicitly invites comment. TM's response to Alex's post was just as much an expression of his own feelings as was Alex's post itself; why is the one expression any more or less valid than the other?
Yes, posting surely invites comment. I don't think he was particularly looking for advice or debate. Alex can speak for himself on that count. Probably the most common communication error (not really a gender issue as it is often described) is that when a person just wants to not feel alone in his thoughts, feelings, or ideas, others will immediately seize upon it as an invitation for resolving some problem. Well-intentioned or a good exercise, sure, just not actually helpful.

Here is how Alex ended his post which initiated all this. (Should we rename this thread "Kissing a boy"?)

Alex said, " I have been absolutely dying to talk to someone and you have no idea how good it feels to have finally expressed my thoughts. Ignore the whole thing if you like."

I don't see him asking for someone to debate him on his decision. Support, inquiry, suggestion all seem appropriate. Trying to convince him he's wrong about a very sensitive issue he was brave enough to air here is futile at best, and in my opinion, insensitive to the spirit in which it was shared. If he had ended his post with, "I'm confused and unsure and would love to hear your opinions on my thinking" then it would be a whole 'nuther matter.

You're right that TM's expression of his feeling was just as valid as Alex's in expressing his. I will always defend TM or anyone else to have their vision and conviction of things, even as I am certain to see it differently myself. Too bad so many of TM's "expressions" appear fashioned to incite and insult rather than accomplish anything constructive.

That said, it is interesting to see the various opinions on the issue being posted, TM's no less. I find it most misfortunate that the context for this dialog has to be that of trying to change Alex's' perspective on such a sensitive issue. I think it's tacky and smacks of ego and personal agendas rather than actual concern for Alex.

P.S. Alex, I need a cartoon fix baaaaad maaaaaann....getting.....delirium......tremens....

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I'll take a nibble on this one.

Mine: (bday, July 1, Cancer)

Your birthstone is Ruby
The Mystical properties of Ruby

Ruby is said to open one's heart to love.
Some lists consider these stones to be your birthstone. (Birthstone lists come from Jewelers, Tibet, Ayurvedic Indian medicine, and other sources)

Your birth tree is

Apple Tree, the Love

Of slight build, lots of charm, appeal and attraction, pleasant aura, flirtatious, adventurous, sensitive, always in love, wants to love and be loved, faithful and tender partner, very generous, scientific talents, lives for today, a carefree philosopher with imagination.

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In my subjective opinion, I find all the above uncannilly accurate in description, except that rather than always being in love, I wish to be in love with elusive success. But I value it highest, love in general. Anyone who knows my posts from the last month knows I wax philosophical to the extreme, but can be silly the next moment.

Curious. I believe the universe is yet a much more complicated and mysterious thing that we have grown accustomed to assuming in this "age of reason." Ironically, I find this age of reason not being much less steeped in its own brand of superstitions, faiths, and blind spots.

I shortly expect to see the logicians and scientists in our midst come forth to explain why it's utterly ridiculous to pay any homage to mysticisms.

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Originally written by Thuryl:

The problem is not so much with what he wants as with explaining what he wants to others. If a decision really is a purely personal one, it doesn't need to be publicised.
Did you note how relieved Alex felt just to be able to talk—for the first time to anyone—about something that was weighing heavily on his heart? We shouldn't sweep aside the pure therapeutic value of being willing to get something out. All is not logic, rationality, argument, and utility in life.

Screw what anyone else thinks about his logic or path. Alex has values and conviction which no one here is about to overturn. He has some significant confliction among them to work out through his own experience. Some people are able to see beyond the conventional boxes of limitation (homosexuality is so innate it has no possible hope of change) and are willing to grasp at something extraordinary. I say good for him for daring to take on the challenge in accordance with his values. If a person can picture something in his mind and believe in it, he is well on his way to making it a reality.

I like to see people believe in possibilities rather than limitations. They tend to be the people who break the old paradigms and help humanity advance in new directions. For every one of them, there are the 100 or 1,000,000 who will say, "It can't be done."

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Definition of a statistician:

Man standing with one foot in a pot full of boiling water and one foot in a pot full of ice water who says, "On the average, I feel fine."

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Lord Putidus help in Blades of Avernum
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Premise 3- TM is amazed by males (?)

Sir, I don't think you're broken, but you're definitely a bit cracked.

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Avernum 4? in General
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Finally, finally, beta testing has begun.

From what I've seen so far, I will agree with Drake that A4 should not give cause for alarm. Let's put it this way: I started the demo of Geneforge 1 once and hated it so much I stopped almost immediately. This is not happening with A4, and I'm the highly critical sort. If you don't believe me, dig up my review of Canopy last month.

Also, any other beta testers who would like to dialog during the beta phase, please use my email or AOL IM in my profile to get in touch. Poit, your email is bogus. Give me a holler.

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A Hypothetical Conceived Whilst Drunk in General
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I could point out another obvious point no one else has bothered to bring up yet:

When Thuryl gets sloshed, he cuts loose by generating quirky philosophical queries online. Is this a man who knows how to party or what?

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