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Death to All Merchants in Blades of Avernum
Warrior
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Profile #11
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I've worked on several fan-made Fallout 2 mod projects
Which ones if you don't mind me asking.

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Boa scenario's: what stage are they in now? in Blades of Avernum
Warrior
Member # 5274
Profile #18
Glad to see you are still progressing Dahak. I remmber seeing some of your screenshots a while ago and I look forward to playing the finished product.

As for mine it is almost done, I just need to find a free week somewhere to finish the end sequences.

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BoA Editor Remake in Blades of Avernum Editor
Warrior
Member # 5274
Profile #4
Thanks for persevering. Are you the only one working on this?

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BoA Editor Remake in Blades of Avernum
Warrior
Member # 5274
Profile #4
Thanks for persevering. Are you the only one working on this?

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The most ambitious scenario in Blades of Avernum
Warrior
Member # 5274
Profile #10
Greetings High Hoper, it's good to see someone new around the place.

Just to recap.

You are probably tired of hearing it by now but this simply will not work. No matter your commitment and ability this scenario will never be finished. The more progress you make, the more of a waste it will be in the end when you finally burn out and give up altogether.

Kelandon and *i have stated it far more eloquently then I could, but this idea is doomed to fail. If you really want to test yourself start off small, make a few smaller works, master the editor, and then make the continent spanning epic if you feel motivated to commit to such a long term project.

Best of luck.

[ Monday, March 06, 2006 03:36: Message edited by: Poit ]

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All Hail The Chairman in General
Warrior
Member # 5274
Profile #42
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i hope Nathan Ashby will live hapilly ever after, end may not end up sick, dishonored, battered to death or simply kissed to death by Britney spears. may he not end up in that big microwave down in the deep vaults of earth (Avernum?) but up in the sky, where everything is white, pure, and far to clean.

Lets sing a song, in memory of nathan ashby, who so promptly left the boards. May he rest is peace.

Amen

I probably wrote because of the "Gotterdamerung" of wagner I'm listening just now. it always depresses me.

NOW LETS GET THE HELL DRUNK!

Please stop taking whatever you're on.

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Sorry, and this time I mean it in General
Warrior
Member # 5274
Profile #3
The short answer is: No one cares. If you intend to become a well adjusted functioning member of the Spiderweb forums my advice is to just gracefully fade into the background for a few weeks and observe how things work around here, as opposed to starting an oprah episode and telling us all how we judged you wrong.

Word of warning if you persist in littering the boards with pointless topics like this eventually the mods will tire of you and will screw you like a southern belle on a conjugal visit.

Best of luck amigo.

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Census of Spiderweb community in General
Warrior
Member # 5274
Profile #70
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Religion: Aestheist
Should I interpret this as "atheist" or "one who does not believe in senses?"
The former. I can't believe I missed that. Guess the holidays must be taking their toll.

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General Chats for This Week in General
Warrior
Member # 5274
Profile #6
Should be able to make one of them.

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Census of Spiderweb community in General
Warrior
Member # 5274
Profile #60
Sure, why not.

Age: 18
Gender: Male
Sexual orientation: Freud said it best.
Marital status: Taken
Highest educational degree completed: Currently first year uni
City/metropolitan area where you live: Melbourne
Racial/ethnic origin: Ever heard of a crummy little country called Cyprus?
Nationality: Australian
First/primary language: English
Religion: Atheist
How long you've been a Spiderwebber: Too long. 03 maybe?
Whether or not you're a septuagenarian eskimo: Again, why not.

[ Tuesday, February 28, 2006 01:34: Message edited by: Poit ]

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"The End of Blades" Discussion in Blades of Avernum
Warrior
Member # 5274
Profile #63
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It's already been superseded in both technical and story terms by Av4
Anyone who dares complement A4 deserves whatever form of death visits such a subhuman animal.

Hah, I don't think you know my dead seated hatred for Avernum 4 or "the abortion" as I affectionately like to call it. What I was getting at is that BoA only had a relatively brief period to establish itself before the engine it was built on was ditched. If there is no certainty about the future of a program who want to commit to designing something over the prolonged period of time it takes to produce a decent scenario?

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Attitudes like these are snobby and unproductive.
What, you think that my perspective is lacking? If so, let's talk facts.
I probably didn't need to say that, I'm just always wary of discussions that becomes a pissing match over matters of seniority. Luckily this one hasn't.

One of the interesting things about this situation is there may not be much we can do. What struck me about all of the suggestions many people including both I* and TM made, (scenario competition, AIM chats, ironing out plot ideas,) is that they're mostly very sensible things to do. They are good thoughful choices to make in this situation, except for the fact that they don't seem to have worked. Obviously it's impossible to expect some sort of overnight success, but have we had any?

The crucial thing here is attracting new blood, to generate the critical mass of fans and designers needed to sustain BoA after it is rendered "obsolete" by other SW games. Does anyone thing we have that?

I'm probably being a bit too dramatic and devils advocatish but consider.

...BoA requires a longer period of time spent to create a scenario than BoE.
...BoA was superseded by a newer SW game faster than BoE.
...There are other distractions in the gaming world, not least Avernum 4 and the Geneoforge series

My question would be, does BoA right now have the conditions and structure that would lead to long term success?

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Action has to be taken. Open-sourcing BoE would be a nice start.

Maybe I missed this boat? What do you plan to do to the source code?

[ Sunday, February 19, 2006 20:08: Message edited by: Poit ]

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"The End of Blades" Discussion in Blades of Avernum
Warrior
Member # 5274
Profile #40
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Enraged Slith: Remind me... how much have you done to stop Blades dying?
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1. Those of us who have been in the community for over 5 years (this is how long Creator has been in it, I believe) have a better perspective than most.
Attitudes like these are snobby and unproductive. I doubt the lack of scenarios is not primarily to do with laziness, in fact I'd wager that the very nature of BoA is the primary cause of the low number of scenarios released.

The first thing to consider is the familiarity and expertise needed with the editor to create a passable scenario. Of course you don't have to be a rocket scientist to operate it, (hell even I can manage,) but it takes time, far more time than a BoE scenario. The larger investment of time means on average less scenarios will be released than we've grown accustomed too with BoE.

I don't think the lack of scenarios at this stage is something to be alarmed about, rather it's the lack of players and designers that should make us poop ourselves. The crippling thing about the lack of new talent is that the only way to attract new players and designers to BoA is to have a database of worthwhile scenarios, which in turn require designers to create. People even today are buying BoE simply because of the wealth of scenarios it has built up over the years. Without those why would people bother to learn to use a game that is quite dated in all other aspects?

This is the main thing we're lacking and I honestly don't see much of a way to attract new blood, there are just too many other games and distractions out there. This really hit home the other day when I was almost heartbreakingly close to finishing my BoA scenario, (Note to other designers: never announce when you intend to release your incomplete work, *kiss of death*,) but only until Fallout 2 came along to amuse and distract me with it's charm. I honestly can't see how BoA can capture and hold someones attention when better alternatives present themselves.

At this stage BoA seems to be the bastard halfspawn of the Avernum series, the red headed stepchild of the Spiderweb family. It's already been superseded in both technical and story terms by Av4, and I'm not sure if we really have much of a chance.

[ Saturday, February 18, 2006 16:10: Message edited by: Poit ]

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Posts: 107 | Registered: Thursday, December 9 2004 08:00
There really is a conspiracy in General
Warrior
Member # 5274
Profile #10
Pity is for the weak.

More karma lowering I say.

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Posts: 107 | Registered: Thursday, December 9 2004 08:00
Play BoA or A1-4 first? in Blades of Avernum
Warrior
Member # 5274
Profile #7
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i wish there would be more RPG games like avernum,i dont care how much graphics suck,all i want is good story line,i havent found this in many games,only in couple of older final fantasys,avernum and morrowind which is one of the best RPGs ever made,main story and ALOT of side guests,theres like no way to do all of them,and there are 2 expansions for it,gonna take long time to finnish playing it.

Playing through Avernum 1 and 2 will give you a taste of Jeff Vogel at his peak, in terms of plot the whole thing crashes and burns by Av 3 and 4. After a few months once you've finished with them and moved onto BOA there should be a lot more player created scenarios out there for you to try.

Also if you have a thing for RPG's that put plot first, definately check out Cythera, www.ambrosiasw.com/games/cythera. It's from roughly around the same time as Avernum but has certain features I still haven't seen in most modern games.

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Posts: 107 | Registered: Thursday, December 9 2004 08:00
BoA Chat Log in Blades of Avernum
Warrior
Member # 5274
Profile #5
No I've got nothing against it, just thought some people might get prissy about being called names behind their back. Most people wouldn't care.

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Posts: 107 | Registered: Thursday, December 9 2004 08:00
BoA Chat Log in Blades of Avernum
Warrior
Member # 5274
Profile #3
From memory there may be one or two personal remarks you might want to censor.

[ Wednesday, January 11, 2006 04:35: Message edited by: Poit ]

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Posts: 107 | Registered: Thursday, December 9 2004 08:00
Lets hear about your editor mistakes in Blades of Avernum Editor
Warrior
Member # 5274
Profile #6
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Worst thing to do in general is to accidentally toggle "Automatic Hills" to ON
I hear you.

I've found the amount of costly time wasting mistakes has gone down dramatically since the creation of the 3D Editor. It's nice to be able to see what your actually doing.

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Posts: 107 | Registered: Thursday, December 9 2004 08:00
Lets hear about your editor mistakes in Blades of Avernum
Warrior
Member # 5274
Profile #6
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Worst thing to do in general is to accidentally toggle "Automatic Hills" to ON
I hear you.

I've found the amount of costly time wasting mistakes has gone down dramatically since the creation of the 3D Editor. It's nice to be able to see what your actually doing.

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Posts: 107 | Registered: Thursday, December 9 2004 08:00
AIM Blades Chats in Blades of Avernum
Warrior
Member # 5274
Profile #12
No just a bad joke. See you tomorrow morning.

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Posts: 107 | Registered: Thursday, December 9 2004 08:00
Lets hear about your editor mistakes in Blades of Avernum Editor
Warrior
Member # 5274
Profile #0
I'd like to hear about some of the awful mistakes people have made in the editor that caused them to loose lots of work. Most of my mistakes thus far have been relitively simple, mostly doing something manually and then finding out there is a button that could have saved hours of work. I'd like to hear about the frustrating experiences of others to put my small ones into perspective, so now's that chance to tell everyone about your BOA horror stories and moan to your hearts content.

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Posts: 107 | Registered: Thursday, December 9 2004 08:00
Lets hear about your editor mistakes in Blades of Avernum
Warrior
Member # 5274
Profile #0
I'd like to hear about some of the awful mistakes people have made in the editor that caused them to loose lots of work. Most of my mistakes thus far have been relitively simple, mostly doing something manually and then finding out there is a button that could have saved hours of work. I'd like to hear about the frustrating experiences of others to put my small ones into perspective, so now's that chance to tell everyone about your BOA horror stories and moan to your hearts content.

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Posts: 107 | Registered: Thursday, December 9 2004 08:00
Magus of Cattalon Released. in Blades of Avernum
Warrior
Member # 5274
Profile #20
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Ah, so you got the second pic. Since I'm still offline I had to send it from a friend's computer and she sent the wrong mail +_+ then went immediately. I had to find another computer to send the right picture.
The art is excellent and a nice touch. Well done.

I hope Smoo has lots of fun in boot camp. I'm imagining his drill instructor will turn out to be like the one in Full Metal Jacket.

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Posts: 107 | Registered: Thursday, December 9 2004 08:00
AIM Blades Chats in Blades of Avernum
Warrior
Member # 5274
Profile #10
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In other words, go to the People menu. Choose "chat." Under the screenname to invite, enter your own, and in the field for the Name of Buddy Chat Room, enter "blades."

Hold my hand.

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Posts: 107 | Registered: Thursday, December 9 2004 08:00
AIM Blades Chats in Blades of Avernum
Warrior
Member # 5274
Profile #4
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A simple Google search will give you the answer you seek:

http://www.timezoneconverter.com/
Sure that's one way of doing it, but I prefer the more rugged manly approach of working it out by hand. That's the reason I'm now crouched beneath my desk quivering like a rape victim with a pencil in one hand and a calculator in another.

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Posts: 107 | Registered: Thursday, December 9 2004 08:00
AIM Blades Chats in Blades of Avernum
Warrior
Member # 5274
Profile #1
Sounds good. On the topic of timezones, EST is GMT -5 is that correct? I've just tied myself in knots trying to determine the time this would take place in Australia.

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