Death to All Merchants

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AuthorTopic: Death to All Merchants
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I hate merchants.

Look, it's standard practice in every roleplaying game to ensure that players can only sell loot for a fraction of the value . . . but in BoA's "A Small Rebellion" scenario, I am really starting to dislike the discrepancy between what I can sell an item for and how much it costs to puchase an item.

A lot of games will let you sell items for 1/2 price, but in Avernum, 1/3 is awesome unless you have the Barter special skill. But all across Morrow's Isle, I can only find merchants who buy for 1/5 price . . . or maybe 1/4, if I'm lucky.

I feel ripped off! Cheated! Swindled!

Ah, well. :rolleyes:

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You could always change this so they sell for more you know.

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quote:
Originally written by *i:

You could always change this so they sell for more you know.
Are you trying to create another frustrated designer?

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quote:
Originally written by Kelandon:

Well, I'm at least pretty sure that Salmon is losing.


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No, Salmon, he's just trying to encourage someone in scripting. :D

Let's put it this way, Scratch, the Merchants were designed to fit the area. Obviously, it's a poor island, so everyone is gonna try to rip you off as best they can, to make the best profits.
It is quite possible to get more than half an item's worth from a merchant. You just have to have enough barter and a generous merchant.

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quote:
Originally written by Lenar Labs:

No, Salmon, he's just trying to encourage someone in scripting. :D
You know, I may very well get around to making a scenario at some point. I actually have a lot of prior experience with writing dialogue, scripting, and just generally putting roleplaying games together -- I'm a professional writer, I've worked on several fan-made Fallout 2 mod projects (among other, similar endeavors), and I gamemaster tabletop roleplaying games, which means I'm very familiar with the concept of game balance.

Creating interesting characters and entertaining dialogue is a specialty of mine. We'll just have to wait and see what happens . . .

[ Saturday, April 15, 2006 20:57: Message edited by: Old Scratch ]

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quote:
Originally written by Lenar Labs:

It is quite possible to get more than half an item's worth from a merchant. You just have to have enough barter and a generous merchant.
Well, except that there's no Barter skill in BoA. :P

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quote:
Originally written by Thuryl:

Well, except that there's no Barter skill in BoA. :P
What?! Zounds!

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And that is what I like about Avernum. Instead that everybody will be generous and give the same amount of money as everybody else, it all actuall fits to the surroundings, as lenar already stated. if you want to sell your items, wait till the scenario has been finished and choose a scenario in which it seems like you will be placed at a rich province.

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As originally signed by Thralni
[qb]Thralni's almighty Avernum pages: My web page has moved to a new address without ads! Go give it a look. Also, finnally all downloads work properly, so what are you waiting for?

Sheesh. Do Mac keyboards differ from PC keyboards?

:P

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quote:
Originally written by Kelandon:

Well, I'm at least pretty sure that Salmon is losing.


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By Thuryl (welcome back!):
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Well, except that there's no Barter skill in BoA.
Simple. Bind a SDF to the amount of barter skill. Then choose the shop's exchange rate based on the SDF. Probably much more trouble than it's worth.

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One might then create a special ability to train in special skills and suck skill points in exchange for increasing that SDF. It's not that hard, but no one has done it yet, as far as I know.

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I've worked on several fan-made Fallout 2 mod projects
Which ones if you don't mind me asking.

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When I first read this topic, I thought you'd be trying to kill every single merchant in every BoA scenario. Possibly every friendly townsperson.

(Particularly after Toenail's topic about killing the Portal Mage in A4)

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quote:
Originally written by Jumpin' Salmon:

quote:
As originally signed by Thralni
[qb]Thralni's almighty Avernum pages: My web page has moved to a new address without ads! Go give it a look. Also, finnally all downloads work properly, so what are you waiting for?

Sheesh. Do Mac keyboards differ from PC keyboards?

:P

No, i tpye quickly and don't have the pateicne to crect evry msitake ( :P )

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No, i tpye quickly and don't have the pateicne to crect evry msitake ( )


wat a lod of horssh*** ervyone has time to crrect errrs its just polit talk i got no patents fer u

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Ephesos> Heck, I already do that. >_>
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quote:
Originally written by Imban:

Ephesos> Heck, I already do that. >_>
I know. You're the reason that you can't kill Brother Oakleaf in DoK. Well, actually you can, but he gets the last laugh.

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Originally by Ephesos:

quote:
quote:
Originally written by Imban:

Ephesos> Heck, I already do that. >_>
I know. You're the reason that you can't kill Brother Oakleaf in DoK. Well, actually you can, but he gets the last laugh.
Great. Just great. Now Dikiyoba is going to have to run a party through DoK and kill Brother Oakleaf just to see what happens. Thanks a lot.
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By Ephesos:
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I know. You're the reason that you can't kill Brother Oakleaf in DoK. Well, actually you can, but he gets the last laugh.
What? After you kill him, he laughs? That sounds suspiciously like being undead...

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quote:
Originally written by Mc 'mini' Thralni:

No, i tpye quickly and don't have the pateicne to crect evry msitake ( :P )
Are you sure? It looks more like you bash the keyboard against the side of your fax machine and just pray for the best. Since your missives are just barely legible, you obviously have a very close relationship with whatever omnipotent being you choose to deify.

[ Wednesday, April 19, 2006 21:43: Message edited by: Old Scratch ]

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Originally by Dintiradan:

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What? After you kill him, he laughs? That sounds suspiciously like being undead...

It's actually a powerful curse that is supposed to kill you. But thanks to this

oakleaf Error: Too many nodes used in line 40. Seems like you hit an infinite loop.nothing happens. It doesn't even make the scenario unwinnable. I killed Brother Oakleaf three times, and he showed up in the next spot like nothing had ever happened.

Dikiyoba doesn't think that makes Brother Oakleaf sound like an undead. Instead, it sounds suspiciously like he's a vahnatai...
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