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German review translation in Avernum 4
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 written Wednesday, January 4 2006 22:23 Profile Homepage #1
Link.

I mean it- what backwater european city would care about a US shareware release?

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Oh come on! in Avernum 4
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I dunno. I don't like the AP system because of what Alorael describes, but I also think the "x slows y down" solution is inelegant and insufficient. I mean, I'm not sure what check you might use- A level check? Opposed (DEX + QKS + QKA + GYM)d6 checks? And why does a goblin slow me down as much as Rentar? (Personally, I'd rather a goblin actually attack me rather than take AP away sometimes.)

Mind you, the old solution- get attacked whenever leaving another's melee range- is equally nonsensical. I mean, a goblin should not have upwards of 100 attacks per round under any circumstances.

For further releases, I'd have parrying skill determine AP penalties others take while passing by (with a base of 1), and also determine the chance you have of striking an opponent going by you. The number of strikes you'd get per round would be determined by DEX/QKS/QKA/etc., with a bonus/penalty depending on how many AP you have left when you parry.

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Best musician or composer in General
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 written Wednesday, January 4 2006 19:16 Profile Homepage #58
宇多田ヒカル

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Rentar's Keep in Avernum 4
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 written Wednesday, January 4 2006 18:22 Profile Homepage #5
...Thuryl, I think he's in the first of Rentar's keeps.

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BoA CHAT!! in Blades of Avernum
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 written Wednesday, January 4 2006 17:59 Profile Homepage #16
If we do IRC, we do #exilechat. It is a must.

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Exodus Progress in Blades of Avernum
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 written Wednesday, January 4 2006 17:40 Profile Homepage #20
I'd imagine that barbaric slith is centered around three phrases: "This is mine," "Let's copulate" and "copulate with yourself".

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2 Questions in General
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 written Wednesday, January 4 2006 15:54 Profile Homepage #9
I'm white.

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BoA CHAT!! in Blades of Avernum
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 written Wednesday, January 4 2006 15:43 Profile Homepage #13
I've been there most all day, and plenty of ideas have been shared. Come at your leisure.

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A4 Demo in Avernum 4
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 written Wednesday, January 4 2006 15:03 Profile Homepage #21
The demo is... Terse. My first reaction was, "dang, this is short."
But the demo isn't the whole game! Alas. The whole game is basically going on quests to meet the levelup mandates of the rest of the game. So okay, it's long... But man, at what price?

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Avenger's Ring vs Pearlescent Band in Avernum 4
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 written Wednesday, January 4 2006 12:50 Profile Homepage #1
+1 Polearms is one more "level" of damage and +5% to hit.

+1 "level" of damage is just the damage.

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2 Questions in General
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 written Wednesday, January 4 2006 12:09 Profile Homepage #3
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Originally written by MagmaDragoon:

I feel myself so alone...
This sounds distinctly german- "Ich fühle mich..."

Anyway, スパイダウェブにどうぞ〜

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What is your best team of 4? in Blades of Avernum
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 written Wednesday, January 4 2006 12:07 Profile Homepage #2
Anything that has beaten Canopy.

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Exodus Progress in Blades of Avernum
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 written Wednesday, January 4 2006 11:14 Profile Homepage #15
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TM, stop trolling. Both you and I know that there were obvious criticisms of Bahs's combat, but nothing relating to the battles being "large."
I dunno- I could have sworn that the gist of Boots' review was panning the dynamic of the scenario, which is unto itself the large fights. And when someone says "the combat sucks" hollistically, the large fights are included.

So okay- maybe it's not just that the fights are large. (Hell, people didn't object to any unusual extent to Trahison than they did any other fight respectively.) Why you make the difference, however, is beyond me.

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(I'm actually doing everything I can to avoid doing anything resembling Canopy's special spells, since I hated them. But eh.)
Different ways of walking through the same door.

Point is, I approve of including special spells- just that however you include them is bound to determine the way your combat functions. If you make them "bigger and badder damage dealers" like in Canopy, the scenario becomes offensively-geared. (Which is, for instance, why your "defensively-geared and overly-leveled" playing style didn't suit the way it was designed at all.) Either you can make the effect that the spells have be minimal, or you're doing the same thing you blame Canopy of doing, and that is re-inventing combat to suit the purposes of your scenario's strategy. Eat the caviar and enjoy the taste.

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Oh, and one other thing, TM: you will hate Exodus.
Yeah! Stick it to designer elitism.

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Or happens to speak Finnish or German or Russian (etc.) natively and has carefully read grammar books on his or her own language (enough that when I say something like "genitive case" you know what I mean)?
*Raises hand*
(Actually, the genativ is decreasing in prevalence and being replaced with dativ, but they still teach it to us- which is good.)

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Also, TM and Kel, please stop the mudslinging already. You're both masters, and all this fighting isn't going to change that.
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yes, yes I do [need to play BoE].


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BoA CHAT!! in Blades of Avernum
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 written Tuesday, January 3 2006 21:41 Profile Homepage #6
I will be there tommorow night, and if there are enough people, I plan on organizing a relief effort to alleviate the community of the drought it's in right now.
Come, so we can bounce ideas and plan some things.

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First aid, uh, high score in Avernum 4
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 written Tuesday, January 3 2006 20:08 Profile Homepage #2
Once, I topped 500 with a god party.

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Nephilim Mystery BUG in Blades of Avernum
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 written Tuesday, January 3 2006 18:39 Profile Homepage #15
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Originally written by *i:

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Originally written by Anna:

]Don't you have anything more intelligent to say, mister-no-name ? What's the trouble with you ?
You are a fellatious rake.
FYT.

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Long Distance Traveling in Avernum 4
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 written Tuesday, January 3 2006 18:35 Profile Homepage #6
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Originally written by Dear Alorael:
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—Alorael, who would rather ride pylons anyway.
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Avernum series - Avernum 4 plot in Avernum 4
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 written Tuesday, January 3 2006 18:34 Profile Homepage #3
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Originally written by Slartucker:

A4 has significantly more plot than G3, if that's a helpful comparison.
Puh-leeze. At this point, you're essentially arguing between the varying boquets of stool samples.

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Exodus Progress in Blades of Avernum
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 written Tuesday, January 3 2006 17:39 Profile Homepage #8
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Originally written by Kelandon:

None of the criticism of Bahs that I remember involved "large" battles. It's been criticized and praised for the same things so many times that it's hard for me to keep straight what people have said.
Going in order through CSR:
"On the other hand, the final fight can be a bit mundane, and the fight against Nolagh-Khar is outright boring." -- Yours Truly
"There could have been more strategy added to the fights-- spellcasters and terrain." -- Toast
"As you finally get to Mount Garthax, the whole scenario becomes, effectively, a giant hack and slash." -- Dastal
"Unfortunately, as TM says, the altar fight occurs early, and from then on (the chitraches, who present a nifty little problem, apart) it's one round of "wait outside the door, power up and charge in on the unsuspecting [insert creature names here]" after another after another after another: combat with potted-plant baddies." -- Boots
"As regards combat, with the exception of a couple of fights (notably the very interesting Tunnels sequence near the start, and the reasonably interesting and highly strenuous final battle), challenge is fairly consistent in both type and difficulty. On one hand, this means a party capable of winning one fight won't find themselves utterly stymied by the next. On the other hand, this also means there's a certain sameness to the combat after a while." -- Thuryl
"The rest of the fights pretty much followed this pattern: shoot an arrow at one of the baddies, then retreat to a safer location, kill the one baddie, repeat." -- Smoo
"Well, it is Vogel-style in one way. There are a lot of monsters to be killed, and, most of the time, the only danger is that your attention might lapse." -- PoD
"The combat was advanced in many ways, but often the returned to battling mountains of HP that can conjure up more HP mounds via Arcane Summon. These battle of attrition became tedious slug fests outweighing all the benefit of the impressive technical razzle dazzle. In other words, I often found myself having little fun." -- Stareye
"Also, I have to agree with other people's comments on the combat. There was very little variation in tactics required." -- Creator

We're all used to criticisms being ignored, but don't forget that they even exist. (It should also bear some significance that there isn't a single designer who doesn't pan your combat, although you may treat that as elitism.)

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* More character development! I've promised that Phaedra's feminine side will shine through in this scenario, and it will. But each of the major characters of Bahssikava (Legare, Kass, Pithoss, Ethass, Talas, Silthokh, Ithik, Phaedra, Machrone) will have more stage-time and more lines.
I only remember four of the above (Legare, Kass and the two humans), and I wasn't aware that Machrone was "major", but so long as the lines are good, this is a vast improvement.

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* Special spells! The party is something like level 50 or 60 to start out the scenario, so I've imagined a set of spells continuing upward for another 20 or 30 levels.
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

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* A conlang for the sliths! I've already alluded to this on the boards, and I have created a full-blown language for the homeland sliths, complete with a linguistic history and literary background. The Khalthanad, the epic poem of the homeland sliths, will play prominently in Exodus.
Is this a scenario or a prog rock band? Or, in other words- I like that you have to "learn a language" to progress in the scenario, but what was wrong with Bahss' solution of just incrementing a flag?

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While the lack of outdoors eventually made me a bit claustrophobic ("when can I finally leave?" "where's the exit?" "I want OUT!"), it was a bit of a novelty.
Novelty? You have roughly 7 years of BoE to play through.

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I had to adjust my strategy - normally I walk around in the wilderness until I'm healed; here, healing and energy potions actually had a use outside of combat.
"And it isn't clear why Bahssikava has no outdoors. Except as a time-consuming inconvenience, it never affects a player's choices or actions (provided you're willing to backtrack, you can always find places to rest and level-up), so none of the gameplay challenges that might follow from the design decision and give the scenario a character of its own are ever allowed to develop." -- Boots

As for me? So long as it's a scenario, I'll await the release.

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Nephilim Mystery BUG in Blades of Avernum
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 written Tuesday, January 3 2006 10:42 Profile Homepage #10
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Originally written by Ephesos:

Where's Seletine been lately, anyway?
Hiding in shame, I'd hope.

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Nephilim Mystery BUG in Blades of Avernum
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 written Tuesday, January 3 2006 10:02 Profile Homepage #6
I found a bug in Nephilim Mystery.

When I play it, it sucks.

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About a older (not yet found) thread in General
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 written Monday, January 2 2006 15:56 Profile Homepage #41
I remember the good old days, when we would announce our Masquerades before they happened, and the stupidity would be more easily sidestepped.

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How do I counter a Fear spell? in Avernum 4
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 written Monday, January 2 2006 15:24 Profile Homepage #2
Thing about Cure is that it doesn't totally purge poison- poison works in "ranks", and the more you have, the more damage it does. Casting Cure always lowers the ranks you have, so even if you don't get rid of your poison, it doesn't become a lethal dosage automatically.

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Storing Items? in Avernum 4
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 written Sunday, January 1 2006 22:09 Profile Homepage #12
The living incarnation of god agrees.

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To Register or Not to Register... in Avernum 4
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 written Sunday, January 1 2006 22:06 Profile Homepage #13
A4 has a terrible plot, a nice idea for a system that grows stale, unwaveringly unoriginal combat, and a horrible graphics package.
Buy BoE.

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